My custom build, quick questions/couple questions/concerns

[dante1217]

Hope im posting in the right section new to this wonderful site so very helpful anyways here is my current build.

CPU - Intel Core i5-4690K Processor 3.5 GHz LGA 1150 BX80646I54690K
CPU Cooler - Cooler Master Seidon 120V
MotherBoard - Gigabyte GA-Z97X-GAMING 3 LGA 1150 Z97 Gaming Audio and Networking ATX
GPU - Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 Overclocked GDDR5 Pcie Video Graphics Card, 4GB
GPU - Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 Overclocked GDDR5 Pcie Video Graphics Card, 4GB
Memory - PNY XLR8 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600Mhz
Storage - WD Blue 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 7200rpm Internal Hard Drive
Power Supply - XFX 650W TS SERIES FULL WIRED 80+ BRONZE PSU
Case - NZXT Phantom 410 Mid Tower USB 3.0 Gaming Case - Black

Now I plan on switching from the Intel Core i5-4690K to the Intel Core i7-4790K after I ran a few memtest and found I was getting errors about 186 and between 4 each time,

Plan on also switching my ram from PNY to Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1600 MHz in case the Ram is bad as well.

Also plan on upgrading my monitor to a 1440p one as well, this one exactly
Link

Now my real question is that, would the current CPU Liquid cooler be enough for everything I plan doing or would I need to get a better one? Would I need a higher PSU, would everything go together with the rest of my stuff etc.


Things I don't care about:
SSD
Already plan on upgrading to a 8TB HDD But waiting to transfer my files my old HDD to a portable one to the new one hate to loss my games.


Side Note:
Getting a lot of BSOD and alot of random Web browser crashing, the BSOD have slowed down but I some ever so often. Caused by the same thing ( ntoskrnl.exe ), Thats why I planned on replacing the CPU and both ram before my warranty expires.

So what you guys think?

 

[americanbrian]

your psu is underpowered for sli 970's

 

[dante1217]

your psu is underpowered for sli 970's

Guessing I should of went with a 750W? I know 800W is way over kill thought Id be good with a 650W hmmm anyone else got any feedback curious about my build before I buy my new parts so ill know if i need to fix anything else or send something back.

 

[Darkbreeze]

I seriously doubt your CPU is to blame. The memory, possibly. PNY isn't the greatest or most reliable of memory brands and support for their products can be somewhat hit and miss. I've probably replaced more faulty Adata, PNY and Patriot modules than any other brands I've encountered. Which probably doesn't amount to a hill of beans, it's just what I've seen.

I'd run Memtest on the memory, to at least get an idea if it is for CERTAIN memory related. Memory can pass Memtest testing and still be bad, but if it fails testing it's almost certainly bad.

http://www.memtest.org/

That link is for Memtest86+, I wouldn't use the standard Memtest86 version right now as they seem to have a code issue involving the hammer test that was incorporated into the latest version, so stick with Memtest plus for testing.

The PSU is very good, but definitely underpowered for two 970's whether in SLI or not. Try removing one card and see if the problems persist. If they do, swap it out for the other card and try again. It may be as simple as a faulty card. When you do run two cards, you want a good 750-850w PSU. One of the tier 1 or 2 units here, or another XFX like you have with a higher capacity would be fine:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html#15349669



If your only concern is gaming, the i7 isn't going to gain you anything. The 4690k puts up the same numbers, within 1-3fps as the i7, in the majority of titles. There are a handful of titles that are heavily both CPU dependent and highly multi-threaded that do better with an i7 or Xeon E3 chip but those are few and far between, and even then the differences aren't enough to justify purchasing another CPU when you already have a very good Haswell Refresh chip as it is. Unless you have the money to burn, I'd stick with what you have. If you want to chip anyhow, I'd suggest NOT buying an i7, and going with a Xeon E3 1241 v3 as it has the same 3.5Ghz clock as the 4690k, has a 3.9Ghz standard turbo, has no integrated graphics, which you don't need anyhow, has the same eight thread capability and strong single core performance as the i7 and is about 60 bucks cheaper than the i7.

It cannot however be overclocked via multiplier like the K series chips so if overclocking is desired you'll not want to go that route. If you do plan to overclock, you'll definitely want a different cooler regardless of whether you stay with the i5 or move to the i7. The Haswell Refresh chips have a bad habit of increasing heat output exponentially when overclocked and require a VERY good cooler. A single width liquid cooler won't cut it. I recommend the Cooler Master Nepton 240m or one of the 240mm Swiftech coolers, or a custom loop. I'd avoid the Corsair coolers as they underperform and the Link package sucks anyhow.

 

[dante1217]

I seriously doubt your CPU is to blame. The memory, possibly. PNY isn't the greatest or most reliable of memory brands and support for their products can be somewhat hit and miss. I've probably replaced more faulty Adata, PNY and Patriot modules than any other brands I've encountered. Which probably doesn't amount to a hill of beans, it's just what I've seen.

I'd run Memtest on the memory, to at least get an idea if it is for CERTAIN memory related. Memory can pass Memtest testing and still be bad, but if it fails testing it's almost certainly bad.

http://www.memtest.org/

That link is for Memtest86+, I wouldn't use the standard Memtest86 version right now as they seem to have a code issue involving the hammer test that was incorporated into the latest version, so stick with Memtest plus for testing.

The PSU is very good, but definitely underpowered for two 970's whether in SLI or not. Try removing one card and see if the problems persist. If they do, swap it out for the other card and try again. It may be as simple as a faulty card. When you do run two cards, you want a good 750-850w PSU. One of the tier 1 or 2 units here, or another XFX like you have with a higher capacity would be fine:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html#15349669



If your only concern is gaming, the i7 isn't going to gain you anything. The 4690k puts up the same numbers, within 1-3fps as the i7, in the majority of titles. There are a handful of titles that are heavily both CPU dependent and highly multi-threaded that do better with an i7 or Xeon E3 chip but those are few and far between, and even then the differences aren't enough to justify purchasing another CPU when you already have a very good Haswell Refresh chip as it is. Unless you have the money to burn, I'd stick with what you have. If you want to chip anyhow, I'd suggest NOT buying an i7, and going with a Xeon E3 1241 v3 as it has the same 3.5Ghz clock as the 4690k, has a 3.9Ghz standard turbo, has no integrated graphics, which you don't need anyhow, has the same eight thread capability and strong single core performance as the i7 and is about 60 bucks cheaper than the i7.

It cannot however be overclocked via multiplier like the K series chips so if overclocking is desired you'll not want to go that route. If you do plan to overclock, you'll definitely want a different cooler regardless of whether you stay with the i5 or move to the i7. The Haswell Refresh chips have a bad habit of increasing heat output exponentially when overclocked and require a VERY good cooler. A single width liquid cooler won't cut it. I recommend the Cooler Master Nepton 240m or one of the 240mm Swiftech coolers, or a custom loop. I'd avoid the Corsair coolers as they underperform and the Link package sucks anyhow.

Ya Ive ran MemTest before, The one that runs on the desktop here is the results from last night

Testing using 1GB, Error list

1. Memory error detected! copying between 748cc83 and 748cc58 did not result in accurate copy
MemTest has detected that your computer cannot accurately store data in RAM

2. Memory error detected Pair 110816684 does not store values accurately
MemTest has detected that your computer cannot accurately store data in RAM

3. Memory error detected! Pair 51303672 does not store values accurately
MemTest has detected that your computer can't accurately store data in RAM

4. Memory error detected! Pair 66206622 does not store values accurately
MemTest has detected that your computer cannot accurately store data in RAM

5. Memory error detected Pair! 99114296 does not store values accurately
MemTest has detected that your computer cannot accurately store data in RAM

6.Memory error detected! Pair 70553564 does not store values accurately
MemTest has detected that your computer cannot accurately store data in RAM

7. Memory error detected! Pair 70553562 does not store values accurately
MemTest has detected that your computer cannot accurately store data in RAM

Tested to 1000%

And even ran the MemTest Pro86 version found 186 errors in my CPU, As for the i5 to i7 I understand what your saying but I was going to upgrade because it would cost $100 more plus it would help in the long. I can and will get a full refund for my i5 from Amazon spoke with them and they said I would that's why I was like hey why not upgrade already tested the i5 you know?.

And for the memory I planned on getting
Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory (CMZ16GX3M2A1600C10)

As for the PSU and cooler, that will have to wait I cant return the ones I bought. Not having any power issues all my parts use a total of 496Watts I think 650Watts will be fine until I upgrade to 750 or if i Chose to do so. Same goes for the cooler, or I may have to invest into a single fan because a dual fan will be to big for my case unless I think of a way to place it by taking out the pre built fans hmmm going to require some thinking.

i7 is pending most likely will wait it out the i5 has not let me down, plus don't have the extra cash to get another cpu within my refund/return time which ends Friday eh will just stick with the i5 and get new memory.

 

[Darkbreeze]

I think 650Watts will be fine until I upgrade to 750

What does this mean? Your first post indicated you have GTX 970 SLI, so how is dropping down to a 750 and upgrade? Typo? Lapse of reason? What do you ACTUALLY have right now, installed? If you have 2 GTX 970's installed, you DO NOT have enough juice. For one, yes, for two, no.

 

[dante1217]

I think 650Watts will be fine until I upgrade to 750

What does this mean? Your first post indicated you have GTX 970 SLI, so how is dropping down to a 750 and upgrade? Typo? Lapse of reason? What do you ACTUALLY have right now, installed? If you have 2 GTX 970's installed, you DO NOT have enough juice. For one, yes, for two, no.

Typo, Mybad trying to figure out bills and stuff making me not want to buy stuff right now. Eh and I thought I wanted to grow up haha but ya I meant I will be upgrading to a 750Watt PSU this friday

And as for the i7 im holding on until a few months or a year, the i5 is doing me justice. And in my system I have what I posted in the first post SLI Over Clocked GTX 970's. Im buying more memory today to replace the faulty one's hopfully that will stop the random BSOD's

Memory im buying
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006EWUO22/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

PSU im buying Friday
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0045L4BJ6/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Has a $25 mail in rebate to, The reason why I picked that brand is because it has never let me down.

As for the cooler along with the i7 that is going to have too wait until my money looks better or I run into problems with my current liquid cooler that requires me to get one asap.

There, no typo's or anything. That is the plan had to do my bills and future checks to make sure I was able to get everything very stressful >.> Want a lot of <mod edit> don't have a <mod edit> load of money Sorry for the confusion hope I cleared it up for you.

 

[Darkbreeze]

Both those component choices look just fine. Should be a decent upgrade.