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speeduk

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I've been looking at buying a cheap 9800pro to replace my 9700 that wont overclock much at all. My current 9700pro does about 355/340 maximum and 348/330 stable, but I know a guy whose selling a sapphire 9700pro with ramsinks that does 432mhz gpu and 756mhz (378mhz) memory!!! Hes benched it on his kt333 system <A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5352189" target="_new"> here </A>, and in my nforce 2 ultra system it should go over 19,000 easily!!!!! Hope he accepts my offer!

Update : New<A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6996893" target="_new"> 3dmark 2001se </A> score.
New<A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=1284380" target="_new"> 3dmark 03 </A> score.

Also note I have kept my barton @ 2.3ghz and at 2446mhz it adds 250 3dmarks to the score (2001).

<A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6936722" target="_new"> My rig </A>
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<font color=red> 120% overclocker </font color=red> (cheapskate)<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by speeduk on 09/14/03 10:55 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
 
I think he did the voltage mod.

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU
 
Because Sapphire 9700pro's been known for a bad overclocker.

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU
 
Its kramer from avforums.com. He says hes had it that high water-cooled, and will test it for me on the stock cooler and if its stable at 360 or above (the memory runs at 350 easily already), then I will take it off him for sure. He also assured me that its not been modded, other than the ramsinks. Later I will add the zalman cooler if it fits over the low profile heatsinks he's added. But the fact that it does 430 100% stable and artifact free shows that it has potential.

<A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6936722" target="_new"> My rig </A>
<A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=1150155" target="_new"> 3D-03 </A>
<font color=red> 120% overclocker </font color=red> (cheapskate)
 
OK, then he must've been lucky, got a freak of nature card.

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU
 
Good news! He left it running overnight, and this afternoon he said it was still running 3dmark 2003 without any artifacts at all at 375/355 on stock cooler!!! I plan on getting the zalman heatpipe like yours to see just what I can get out of it (thats if it fits over his heatsinks). Im so excited :) Selling my current card so overall cost = £100 for 9800pro + speeds. Not a bad deal imo...

<A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6936722" target="_new"> My rig </A>
<A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=1150155" target="_new"> 3D-03 </A>
<font color=red> 120% overclocker </font color=red> (cheapskate)
 
What kind of ramsinks did he use?

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU
 
Speeduk I think you have to think of an Alternative than the ZM80A(or C)-HP because the space available on the back of the card is only about 8mm. Last time I sawed my own ramsinks so they barely fit under. I didn't use it this time because I "didn't" want to void the warrenty :) The dumbass people who I bought my card from don't know anything unless it's physical dammage. I could melt the GPU they wouldn't know how to remove the stock hsf.

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU
 
I guess you could do what Maxracer did, He drilled 2 holes on a CPU hsf(he used Volcano 11 i believe) and attached with screws through the graphics card holes. i don't know if he did it or not, because he's been quiet recently. I definently know if you're planning to do that you'll have to 100% remove the shim. I guess this is your best choice Chris.

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU
 
I think <A HREF="http://ocsystem.com/coolmashhhea.html" target="_new">this</A> might be pretty good, even though it is pretty damn loud with that little Delta fan, but I guess this 1 must fit.

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU
 
Thanks for the replies m8. I've been doing a bit of reading on what to replace the stock cooler with, and a lot of people use <A HREF="http://www.thecoolingshop.co.uk/tcs/comersus_viewitem.asp?idproduct=700" target="_new"> this </A> or something similar. If I stuck a full size heatsink on the card, it would put too much stress on it and obstruct the pci slots below.

<A HREF="http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=117827" target="_new"> Heres </A> a pic of the card

<A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6936722" target="_new"> My rig </A>
<A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=1150155" target="_new"> 3D-03 </A>
<font color=red> 120% overclocker </font color=red> (cheapskate)
 
Are you sure it isn't too big? because the available space around the core is pretty small.

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU
 
The one I wanted to get has been replaced by that P4 cooler, so its too big. I think I will stick with stock cooling and see how it goes and just have the big fan blowing over the side.

It did do 375/355 in a closed case with no airflow at all, so hopefully with some good airflow around the sinks , maybe I can get 380/370 stable 24/7. Not quite the clocks of an overclocked 9800, but until I get a water cooler in a few months time (gonna get the best gpu block/pump etc just for this card), it will do. With a good gpu block I will be able to keep it at 420/380 and maybe do the voltage mod later on. :)

<A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6936722" target="_new"> My rig </A>
<A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=1150155" target="_new"> 3D-03 </A>
<font color=red> 120% overclocker </font color=red> (cheapskate)
 
Good Luck Speed.

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU
 
I have a Volcano 10 on my 9800 Pro, I attatched it with arctic silver thermal epoxy.

It runs 460 like it came stock at that speed. 465 is probly about the max, I ran it at 470 in the gunmetal benchmark, there were no artifacts and it didnt freeze, but it kind of like hesitated a few times, u know? It actually got a slightly lower score. Thats the only application I've tried at 470, it might be fine in other things.

I've also got chrome (or zinc?) plated copper tweakmonster rev. 1 ramsinks on it. For longetivities sake I usually leave my card at 440/360, but I can *usually run 380 on the memory just fine (depends on the application, and how long its run like that).


Neways, yeah, basically I'm recommending you get a Volcano 10, I got mine for 16 dollars off directron.com
Its all copper, and is overkill for a graphics card such as this. Its also very quiet, as I left the stock fan on, which is plenty for this type of application.

"Mice eat cheese." - Modest Mouse

"Every Day is the Right Day." -Pink Floyd
 
Volcano 10? What kind of 9800pro u got?

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU
 
Built by ATI. I didn't have to remove the shim either, my core was at about the same level, or a bit thicker. I mean, the AS epoxy has some thickness to it, which will raise it up a bit. In most cases you don't have to remove the shim.

"Mice eat cheese." - Modest Mouse

"Every Day is the Right Day." -Pink Floyd
 
Oh ok, on mine i just removed it for the fun of it, because i just don't like the idea of the shim. AS epoxy isn't it bad if you spill a tiny bit of that around the core? Isn't it safer to use Arctic Alumina epoxy?

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU
 
Not really. Arctic silver epoxy is like 10 times better at conducting heat, seriously. Both are supposedly non-conductive. Also it is a very THICK solution, it dosnt just spill and run all over the place.

"Mice eat cheese." - Modest Mouse

"Every Day is the Right Day." -Pink Floyd
 
I aint keen on epoxying anything to my new card! When I put the ram sinks on my old 9700 with epoxy, the chips got so hot when overclocked that at first a few of them began to slide off!!! It took about 2 days for the stuff to settle down, now its hard as a rock and they wont come off no matter what. Is there a set period to wait before it (as3 epoxy) sets?

<A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6936722" target="_new"> My rig </A>
<A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=1150155" target="_new"> 3D-03 </A>
<font color=red> 120% overclocker </font color=red> (cheapskate)
 
I do have a stock cooler for my old 1700 pally chip. Nothing great but would probably be better than the stock cooler on the sapphire right? And its only 60x60 and fairly light.

<A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6936722" target="_new"> My rig </A>
<A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=1150155" target="_new"> 3D-03 </A>
<font color=red> 120% overclocker </font color=red> (cheapskate)
 
Y don't u use the stock cooling for your Barton 2500+? Should be better than the 1800+ stock.

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU
 
Coz its an oem 😛

<A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6936722" target="_new"> My rig </A>
<A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=1150155" target="_new"> 3D-03 </A>
<font color=red> 120% overclocker </font color=red> (cheapskate)
 
Oh ok, nm then.

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU
 
OMG this thing is a beast! I got it this morning and ran it at stock speed. Went from 16410 on old card to 16650 on this new card @ stock, amazing. Just clocked it up to 369/348 to see how it copes and the memory is running slightly hot, but nothing major now I put the big fan on, and got <A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6988331" target="_new"> this </A> warming up score :)

<A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6936722" target="_new"> My rig </A>
<A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=1150155" target="_new"> 3D-03 </A>
<font color=red> 120% overclocker </font color=red> (cheapskate)<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by speeduk on 09/12/03 08:40 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
 
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