My eventual part list for my First PC build

[Louis Napoleon]

So I finally make the decision to purchase the parts tomorrow and build my PC myself for the first time. I'm trying to avoid as many problem as possible by posting this list here. https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/louisrossberg/saved/#view=RjM8dC

Please any possible teak and suggestion appreciated.

my major concerns:
1. Is the motherboard support the
i5-6600K.

2.any effects on gaming/daily use if i install Windows Embedded 8.1 industry Pro ( is it 64-bits as I can get it for free)
3. is 144hz monitor a wise choice for me. ( I am going to play battlefield 1 max setting at 1080P, assuming I'll get average 110FPS . Overwatch average 140FPS)

 

[Aeacus]

1. Your MoBo supports your CPU just fine (both have the same LGA1151 socket).

2. Can't help you here, not a Win8.1 expert. Sorry.

3. 144Hz monitor is good for FPS games. For other games, a 60Hz monitor will do just fine.

As far as your build goes, you've selected a K-series CPU but B-series MoBo. If you go with Z-series MoBo then you can overclock your CPU. But with B-series, you can't do that.

Tweaked your system little and here is the result.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£213.34 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer i32 CPU Cooler (£25.86 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI Z170A SLI PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£104.72 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Kingston Savage 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£53.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£85.97 @ BT Shop)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£42.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card (£388.98 @ Amazon UK)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case (£69.98 @ Novatech)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 660W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£136.99 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 24.0" 144Hz Monitor (£220.00 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1342.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-10 01:47 BST+0100

Went slightly over the 1300 pound budget but here's what you get for the extra 42 quid.

CPU
Didn't change it.

CPU cooler
Put in Arctic Freezer i32. It has fluid dynamic bearing fan which is much quieter than the sleeve bearing fan used in 212 EVO. Fan itself will last about 3 times longer then the one in 212 EVO. CPU cooler comes with push system, but it can be easely upgraded to push-pull system with any 120mm fan.
specs: https://www.arctic.ac/eu_en/freezer-i32.html

MoBo
As stated earlier, with Z-series MoBo, you can OC your CPU. MoBo also supports faster RAM than 2133 Mhz, up to 3600 Mhz and it has 4 RAM slots, including support for 2-way SLI and 3-way Crossfire.
specs: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/Z170A-SLI-PLUS.html

RAM
Switched it out for a faster sticks from Kingston, 3000 Mhz. Even though total RAM is 8GB, you have 2 RAM slots free for future upgrades.
specs: http://www.kingston.com/dataSheets/HX430C15SB2K2_8.pdf

Storage
Didin't changed anything.

GPU
Changed the GPU to a MSI one. MSI GPU looks better in MSI board than Gigabyte's GPU.
specs: https://www.msi.com/Graphics-card/GeForce-GTX-1070-ARMOR-8G-OC.html#hero-overview

Case
Left it as you picked it.

PSU
Switched it out for a Seasonic Platinum 660 (80+ Platinum, fully modular, Tier one)
specs: https://seasonic.com/product/platinum-660/
PSU Tier list: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

Monitor
Didn't change it.

 

[g-unit1111]

CPU cooler
Put in Arctic Freezer i32. It has fluid dynamic bearing fan which is much quieter than the sleeve bearing fan used in 212 EVO. Fan itself will last about 3 times longer then the one in 212 EVO. CPU cooler comes with push system, but it can be easely upgraded to push-pull system with any 120mm fan.
specs: https://www.arctic.ac/eu_en/freezer-i32.html

No no no no no no no no. These are some of the absolute worst CPU coolers you can buy. Unfortunately Cryorig isn't available in the UK but anything from Phanteks or Noctua would be an infinitely better purchase than that piece of junk.

 

[Aeacus]

No no no no no no no no. These are some of the absolute worst CPU coolers you can buy. Unfortunately Cryorig isn't available in the UK but anything from Phanteks or Noctua would be an infinitely better purchase than that piece of junk.

Care to elaborate why the Arctic Cooling is that bad?

 

[g-unit1111]

Care to elaborate why the Arctic Cooling is that bad?

They're cheap, poorly built and fall apart very easily. Pay a few bucks more and get a Phanteks TC-12 or a Noctua U9B, those are vastly superior to anything Arctic Cooling makes for not a lot of cost difference. Arctic CPU coolers aren't really any better than the processor fan.

 

[FinalLumie]

Care to elaborate why the Arctic Cooling is that bad?

They're cheap, poorly built and fall apart very easily. Pay a few bucks more and get a Phanteks TC-12 or a Noctua U9B, those are vastly superior to anything Arctic Cooling makes for not a lot of cost difference. Arctic CPU coolers aren't really any better than the processor fan.

I agree on this. I had Hyper 212 Evo with artic silver 5, around 85C in a mild overclock. Switched to Gelid Extreme, it went down to 75C. 10 celcius is freaking huge. Idk why people still buy artic silver 5


Edit: you guys were talking about CPU coolers, i was talking about thermal paste haha Dx

 

[Aeacus]

They're cheap, poorly built and fall apart very easily. Pay a few bucks more and get a Phanteks TC-12 or a Noctua U9B, those are vastly superior to anything Arctic Cooling makes for not a lot of cost difference. Arctic CPU coolers aren't really any better than the processor fan.

Just because the CPU cooler doesn't cost a fortune doesn't make it a bad unit. For an air cooler, there's nothing to fall apart. There are only 2 items, metal heatsink and a fan.
If it were AIO water cooling unit then one can say it falls apart very easely since it has much more parts. But the interesting thing is, that the Arctic Liquid Freezer 240 is well praised here,
link: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/arctic-cooling-cpu-liquid-freezer-240-closed-loop,4735.html

Edit:
Arctic Silver 5 is made and sold by Arctic Silver, Inc.
link: http://www.arcticsilver.com/as5.htm

Arctic Cooling, however is a completely different company and they offer their own MX-2 and MX-4 thermal pastes.
MX-2: https://www.arctic.ac/eu_en/mx-2.html
MX-4: https://www.arctic.ac/eu_en/mx-4.html

 

[madmatt30]

Personally don't think the ac coolers are bad , certainly make good fans & are pretty much all I use for case cooling.
Gammaxx 400 is £18 though & can't be ignored at that price.
£137 for the PSU though ??
No that's just too much mate.
What id do with £1300 (not sure what the actual budget is here as there are half a dozen builds in that list of varying prices)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£213.34 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 74.3 CFM CPU Cooler (£17.99 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Gaming 3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£122.88 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory (£73.49 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£64.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£42.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card (£388.98 @ Amazon UK)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case (£69.98 @ Novatech)
Power Supply: Rosewill 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£70.99 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 24.0" 144Hz Monitor (£220.00 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1285.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-10 06:12 BST+0100

 

[Aeacus]

Personally don't think the ac coolers are bad , certainly make good fans & are pretty much all I use for case cooling.

£137 for the PSU though ??
No that's just too much mate.

I too use Arctic Cooling fans in my case. Their fluid dynamic bearing is extremely quiet and they last 3 to 4 times longer than the cheap and noisy sleeve bearing fans.

£137 for regular 80+ Gold PSU is somewhat too much but the PSU i chose isn't 80+ Gold, it's 80+ Platinum, Tier one PSU with excellent build quality from Seasonic.

 

[AppleGwava]

There are a couple of cooling units at the lower end of the price spectrum that were benchmark and some were worst than the intel stock cooler.Not so sure whether it was anandtech or tomshardware .Perhaps it was a faulty one,who knows ,but i am still staying away from that

 

[madmatt30]

Aeacus - I know what the seasonic PSU is mate .
Just when you have super flower made modular gold units (also tier 1)at 50% of the price of the seasonic common sense has to dictate what's the better buy IMO.

Is that platinum seasonic better ?? Probably a bit
Twice as good or worth twice the price ?? No definitely not.

 

[Aeacus]

Since the cheapest 650W Seasonic in UK sits at £111.48 (according to the pcpp), i went up a little bit and put a fully modular Platinum into the build.

If there's only 25 quid between the 80+ Gold, semi-modular and 80+ Platinum, fully modular PSU, wouldn't you go for the Platinum unit?

For anyone who is interested, an in-depth review of Seasonic Platinum 660,
link: http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=326

Also an in-depth review of Rosewill Capstone G750 (the closest match to the Rosewill Capstone G650 suggested here),
link: http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=464

 

[madmatt30]

I'm lot disputing the seasonic is a better unit but it costs twice as much.

The g650 & g750 have nothing in common.
G650 is superflower, g750 is enhance.

 

[Vic 40]

Unfortunately Cryorig isn't available in the UK

Looked in the pcpartpicker? They're there.
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/93Crxr/cryorig-cpu-cooler-h7

For psu would a 550watt be fine,for sli/crossfire could you look at 750watt,without overclocking even a good 650watt.
for 550watt,
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/NrDzK8/evga-power-supply-220gs0550v3
otherwise 650watt,
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/Rp8H99/corsair-power-supply-cp9020091na
and for 750watt,
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/C3bkcf/corsair-power-supply-cp9020082na

 

[Louis Napoleon]

Personally don't think the ac coolers are bad , certainly make good fans & are pretty much all I use for case cooling.
Gammaxx 400 is £18 though & can't be ignored at that price.
£137 for the PSU though ??
No that's just too much mate.
What id do with £1300 (not sure what the actual budget is here as there are half a dozen builds in that list of varying prices)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£213.34 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 74.3 CFM CPU Cooler (£17.99 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Gaming 3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£122.88 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory (£73.49 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£64.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£42.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card (£388.98 @ Amazon UK)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case (£69.98 @ Novatech)
Power Supply: Rosewill 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£70.99 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 24.0" 144Hz Monitor (£220.00 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1285.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-10 06:12 BST+0100

any reason why both of you recommended using MSI GTX1070 armor than Gigabyte GTX1070 G1 apart from it's cheaper in price. any difference in performance I'm not theme boy when build a PC so the colour theme don't bother me a lot when comes to pick up the parts" So just want you to know I probably won't overclock the GPU as I heard it does hurt card a bit " Also does the material of the PSU really matter? I'v heard if the PSU is less than 80% loaded , whatever the material is ( Bronze Silver Gold ect ) they are doing equally good. P.S I do want to keep the cost as low as possible meantime maintain the best Gaming experience for roughly 5-6 years.

 

[Vic 40]

Do you really want to overclock?

 

[Louis Napoleon]

Do you really want to overclock?

I have very little knowledge of overclock a GPU, Pro and Con

 

[Vic 40]

My question was more concerning the cpu.

Overclocking imo doesn't really benefit on a gpu,it only will give high returns if already having high fps anyway. A 10% overclock might yield 10% more fps.Just get a good factory overclocked well cooled gpu and call it a day.Well that's my opinion. Others here will probably have their own thoughts about it.

 

[madmatt30]

Regarding PSU - seeing as you added that rose will to the build, it does 92% efficiency loaded all the way from 40-70%

It only misses platinum because it drops to 88% at sub 10% loads.
Good psu , good pricepoint - pretty much the same unit as a g2 anyway.

I'm with vic40 on gpu's.never bothered overclocking personally , never really seen the need.
That g1 might push 2-3 more fps than the armor , might run a bit quieter.
Substantially cheaper though so in all honesty better value.

 

[Louis Napoleon]

My question was more concerning the cpu.

Overclocking imo doesn't really benefit on a gpu,it only will give high returns if already having high fps anyway. A 10% overclock might yield 10% more fps.Just get a good factory overclocked well cooled gpu and call it a day.Well that's my opinion. Others here will probably have their own thoughts about it.

I won't overclock cpu for gaming purpose. as It doesn't either give much extra performance, hence the reason I picked up a B150 MoBo rather than a Z170 one

 

[Vic 40]

Other quesstion,is sli something you would go for? Sorry should have asked right away.

 

[Louis Napoleon]

Other quesstion,is sli something you would go for? Sorry should have asked right away.

Not at all, it's my pleasure to have somebody actually put effort on my build plan . I would say no I won't have a plan to add another card in the first couple year when the card can single-handily manage most of the games above 100FPS. plus the sli tech is not fully developed yet to allow you use more than 50% of the 2nd card.

 

[Vic 40]

Something equally priced and good for what you want it for,

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£259.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG M9i 48.4 CFM CPU Cooler (£22.98 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: MSI H170 Gaming M3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£88.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (£62.99 @ Novatech)
Storage: Samsung 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£59.99 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£41.99 @ Novatech)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card (£388.98 @ Amazon UK)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case (£69.98 @ Novatech)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS UK 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£73.48 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 24.0" 144Hz Monitor (£220.00 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1289.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-10 14:02 BST+0100

i know the i7 isn't neccesary for games right now,but some already do take advantage from the extra cores.In the future that might even be more.
Wanted a "Z170" board in there as well with some higher speed ram,but that makes the price rise.

 

[Louis Napoleon]

Something equally priced and good for what you want it for,

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£259.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG M9i 48.4 CFM CPU Cooler (£22.98 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: MSI H170 Gaming M3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£88.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (£62.99 @ Novatech)
Storage: Samsung 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£59.99 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£41.99 @ Novatech)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card (£388.98 @ Amazon UK)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case (£69.98 @ Novatech)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS UK 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£73.48 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 24.0" 144Hz Monitor (£220.00 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1289.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-10 14:02 BST+0100

i know the i7 isn't neccesary for games right now,but some already do take advantage from the extra cores.In the future that might even be more.
Wanted a "Z170" board in there as well with some higher speed ram,but that makes the price rise.

i5-6600k has same amount of cores as i7-6700. I assuming you mean extra threads. also I can pay £20 more to get a 4Ghz i7-6700K would that be a better deal if i desire for a 8 threads CPU?

 

[Vic 40]

Yeah sorry should have said threads (virtual cores).

With the 6700K would you have 4ghz which would give a 600mhz boost over the base clock of the 6700 (3.4ghz) so could be beneficial.No overclocking on the motherboard i chose.