My first computer build, suggestions/approval?

[hunter315]

Get this memory kit instead(just checked the link, seems to bring you to the memory page, anyway i mean the one with 3 sticks), it costs more than the two sticks you were going to pick but gives you a significant performance increase over that weird ram configuration.
http://www.netonnet.se/index.asp?sid=1007257

I would also suggest getting this PSU instead, its significantly more expensive but thats because corsair makes good PSUs
http://www.netonnet.se/index.asp?sid=1007257

Im just ignoring your second choice all together because i cant salvage it without completely redoing it and my swedish isnt good enough to redo it. The ATI card will work in the first choice just fine.

 

[bcake]

Get this memory kit instead(just checked the link, seems to bring you to the memory page, anyway i mean the one with 3 sticks), it costs more than the two sticks you were going to pick but gives you a significant performance increase over that weird ram configuration.
http://www.netonnet.se/index.asp?sid=1007257

I would also suggest getting this PSU instead, its significantly more expensive but thats because corsair makes good PSUs
http://www.netonnet.se/index.asp?sid=1007257

Im just ignoring your second choice all together because i cant salvage it without completely redoing it and my swedish isnt good enough to redo it. The ATI card will work in the first choice just fine.

The two links are the same. So get me a new link for the PSU, otherwise you can just give me the name.

Isnt the fist choice a 32-bit system? Now i'm confused, how can 6GB RAM work with that?

 

[hunter315]

I meant the corsair 650TX, and the Kingston Hyperx Ram.

A 32 bit system cannot make use of the full 6GB, only about 3.2ish, but the i7 uses triple channel ram, without using triple channel and by using modules of different sizes you take a significant performance loss and you will have to buy even more ram when you eventually do upgrade to a 64-bit system. It is obvious this is confusing for you, i suggest you read up on 64-bit systems and what makes an i7 run best.

The first choice will run a 64 or a 32 bit OS just fine, but you really should just pay the tiny bit extra for a 64 bit OS, there is no reason not to.

 

[bcake]

I meant the corsair 650TX, and the Kingston Hyperx Ram.

A 32 bit system cannot make use of the full 6GB, only about 3.2ish, but the i7 uses triple channel ram, without using triple channel and by using modules of different sizes you take a significant performance loss and you will have to buy even more ram when you eventually do upgrade to a 64-bit system. It is obvious this is confusing for you, i suggest you read up on 64-bit systems and what makes an i7 run best.

The first choice will run a 64 or a 32 bit OS just fine, but you really should just pay the tiny bit extra for a 64 bit OS, there is no reason not to.

Ok i always thought that the hardware used determines either 32- or 64 bit. Didnt know that 64-bit compatible hardware could run 32-bit OS.
How would i know how many watts are good for the PSU? Could a bad PSU damage your other hardware components?

Thank you for all help, i may have a few questions by tomorrow. Gonna sleep now.

 

[hunter315]

A bad PSU can send a power surge through the system and take down every other component in the entire build. If you are running 1 4890 or GTX275 650 watts will be fine, if you want to run a second one you will need upgrade to the 750 watt corsair. I would stick with the corsair PSU's over the axpertec's and cooler master's because i have never heard of the first and corsair makes better power supplies than cooler master.

 

[bcake]

A bad PSU can send a power surge through the system and take down every other component in the entire build. If you are running 1 4890 or GTX275 650 watts will be fine, if you want to run a second one you will need upgrade to the 750 watt corsair. I would stick with the corsair PSU's over the axpertec's and cooler master's because i have never heard of the first and corsair makes better power supplies than cooler master.

I feel like i have too much RAM, as far as i know i'm never gonna open Crysis, Assassin's Creed and Photoshop at the same time =P

Would it be a bad idea to get 2x 2GB? Since the i7 architecture has three RAM channels, is it ok to leave one of the channels empty? Its considerably cheaper this way.

 

[bcake]

Nvm i found an upgrading packet containing

Asus P6T Deluxe V2 X58
Corsair XMS 6GB DDR3 1333MHz
Intel Core i7 920 2.66 GHz
For $903

 

[Helloworld_98]

Crysis uses a lot of ram, I've seen over 5GB of ram usage just running Crysis in vista64, and vista64 isn't as bad as what people make it out to be, especially when SP1 or SP2 is applied.

 

[bcake]

UDPDATE:

Motherboard: Asus P6T Deluxe V2 X58

CPU: Intel Core i7 920 2.66 GHz

RAM: Corsair XMS 6GB DDR3 1333MHz

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD4890 1GB GDDR5

CPU Cooler: Xigmatek Red Scorpion S1283

HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB SATA2

Case: Antec 902

Is the RAM only one stick of 6GB? Is that good?

 

[bcake]

Crysis uses a lot of ram, I've seen over 5GB of ram usage just running Crysis in vista64, and vista64 isn't as bad as what people make it out to be, especially when SP1 or SP2 is applied.

Vista is the biggest OS failure i've ever seen. My laptop came preinstalled with it, making me downgrade to XP. For this new 64-bit computer i'll have either Win7 or XP

btw whats you opinion on the RAM? Corsair XMS 6GB DDR3 1333MHz. Is it only one stick of 6GB? Is that good?

 

[SweHtpc]

Hi bcake

Another swede here

There are only a few retailers i completely trust in sweden. I've had some bad luck with a few others and since there are a few that are damn good, then why shop around? Sometimes it's worth it to pay a few bucks extra for good support and next day delivery.

I either shop at http://www.komplett.se or preferably http://www.dustinhome.se
Most of my purchases have been from dustinhome and I've never had a single problem (have bought parts for a few PC's and a couple of netbooks and a lot of other stuff)
As long as you order before 14.00 and all the items are in stock then you are practically guaranteed next day delivery and you can track everything online.

The upgrade package you found is about the same as this one but this is a complete package
http://www.dustinhome.se/pd_5010308461.aspx
Price: 12295kr (about 1230 euros)

Components:
Antec Three Hundred Ultimate Gamer (art. nr. 5010142536)
Asus P6T Deluxe V2 X58 (art. nr. 5010206703)
Intel Core i7 920 (art. nr. 5010191763)
Corsair 6GB DDR3 XMS3 Intel (art. nr. 5010197229)
Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 1TB (art. nr. 5010213276)
Asus Radeon HD4890 1GB (art. nr. 5010295872)
Zalman Silent 600W (art. nr. 5010099774)
Samsung DVD±RW 22x (art. nr. 5010317389)


Here is another package but this one is based on ADM CPU instead, a few thousand (kr) cheaper though. Should perform quite nicely.
http://www.dustinhome.se/pd_5010304752.aspx
Price: 8995 kr (about 900 euros)

Components:
Antec Three Hundred (art. nr. 5010142536)
Asus M4A78-E ATX (art. nr. 5010213500)
AMD Phenom II X4 940 (art. nr. 5010206414)
Corsair TX 650 Watt (art. nr. 5010132220)
ATI Radeon HD4890 1GB PCI-Express (art. nr. 5010267453)
Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 MHz 4 GB (art. nr. 5010316145)
Samsung Spinpoint F1 1TB S-ATA/300 (art. nr. 5010117670)
Samsung DVD±RW 22x Double Layer (art. nr. 5010317389)

 

[bcake]

The upgrade package you found is about the same as this one but this is a complete package
http://www.dustinhome.se/pd_5010308461.aspx
Price: 12295kr (about 1230 euros)

Components:
Antec Three Hundred Ultimate Gamer (art. nr. 5010142536)
Asus P6T Deluxe V2 X58 (art. nr. 5010206703)
Intel Core i7 920 (art. nr. 5010191763)
Corsair 6GB DDR3 XMS3 Intel (art. nr. 5010197229)
Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 1TB (art. nr. 5010213276)
Asus Radeon HD4890 1GB (art. nr. 5010295872)
Zalman Silent 600W (art. nr. 5010099774)
Samsung DVD±RW 22x (art. nr. 5010317389)

Hi =D

Thanks you very much for the effort.

There are just a few things i am concerned about.
I wonder if the Antec Three Hundred has enough fans. Theres one on top and one behind. The other ones arent included. This way i'm not sure if i can overclock. Otherwise if would be great if u could recommend some cheap fans (2 for front, 1 for side) remember i dont want it to get too pricy.

Also i'm not sure if the PSU is good enough, dont u think it should be a 650W?

I've always bought computer parts from Netonnet. They are super cheap and i also live close to them, meaning i dont pay any extra costs.
I dont know if its a better option to buy all those parts from Netonnet individually, giving me a chance to get an Antec 902 and a Corsair CMPSU-650TXEU 650W.

What do you think?

btw i just realized that the product status has changed to "currently not for sale" in dustinhome. Lets hope its just temporary 😉

 

[SweHtpc]

I wonder if the Antec Three Hundred has enough fans. Theres one on top and one behind. The other ones arent included. This way i'm not sure if i can overclock. Otherwise if would be great if u could recommend some cheap fans (2 for front, 1 for side) remember i dont want it to get too pricy.

Also i'm not sure if the PSU is good enough, dont u think it should be a 650W?

I've always bought computer parts from Netonnet. They are super cheap and i also live close to them, meaning i dont pay any extra costs.
I dont know if its a better option to buy all those parts from Netonnet individually, giving me a chance to get an Antec 902 and a Corsair CMPSU-650TXEU 650W.

What do you think?

btw i just realized that the product status has changed to "currently not for sale" in dustinhome. Lets hope its just temporary 😉

--SweHtpc-- The suggestions that I posted were just if you wished to get decent components without having to examine every part in reviews etc. It looked like a decent build for a decent price. However if you wish to handpick every component, which is a pleasure in and of itself no arguments here, then go for the suggestions the other hardcore guys have posted in this thread. I just thought it could be helpfull for your first build. Dustin has built and tested the specs so they know that they are compatible and work fine.

About the fans:
NOCTUA NF-S12-1200 SILENT CASE FAN 120MM
http://www.dustinhome.se/pd_5010126136.aspx
Price: 220 kr (about 22 euros)
My experience with Noctua fans is that they are very quiet and has good airflow.
1x140 mm fan + 120 mm fan should move a lot of air to begin with and if you see that the temps are high then just add more
I'm not sure how much heat this build will generate so that question will have to be answered by the other guys in the thread.
If you don't care about the noise then just add all the fans you can. Personally I like to keep things moderately quiet.

About the PSU:
600 should be enough for the components that are included but if you plan on maybe adding another 4890 in the future and maybe overclock your CPU then you will probably need a bit more.
I'm a litle rusty on how much power a typical gaming rig with decent performance components draw these days.

About where to buy:
If NetonNet's prices are about the same as other online retailers then why not buy the components there?
The package i listen from dustinhome only leaves warranty for the individual parts anyway.
You will have to (which is probably what you intend to do anyway) build the PC yourself regardless of which of these store you buy your stuff from.

About the stock issue on dustinhome:
Their packages (Bygg Själv-kit) are always "out of stock" because they only list the availability for the separate components.

And if you can avoid shipping costs if you buy from NetonNet then go ahead.
Gratis är gott 😉

 

[bcake]

About the stock issue on dustinhome:
Their packages (Bygg Själv-kit) are always "out of stock" because they only list the availability for the separate components.

And if you can avoid shipping costs if you buy from NetonNet then go ahead.
Gratis är gott 😉

Väljer du alltid postförskott hos Dustinhome? Eller betalning mot faktura?

 

[SweHtpc]

Väljer du alltid postförskott hos Dustinhome? Eller betalning mot faktura?
Ledsen för sent svar.
Jag körde förr postförskott men nu kör jag med kort så dras pengarna direkt så kan man bara se fram emot att få sina prylar sedan och då inte tänka på hur mycket man pröjsat

Postförskott funkar bra, betala med kort funkar bra.
Faktura har jag aldrig provat.

 

[SweHtpc]

Ledsen för sent svar.
Jag körde förr postförskott men nu kör jag med kort så dras pengarna direkt så kan man bara se fram emot att få sina prylar sedan och då inte tänka på hur mycket man pröjsat

Postförskott funkar bra, betala med kort funkar bra.
Faktura har jag aldrig provat.