My first Core i7

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Hi I am looking at building my first i7 rig air cooled, I have the following already

Antec P182 Case
Corsair TX 650W PSU
XFX 8800 GTX GPU


I am looking at the following parts

6GB (3x2GB) Corsair Dominator DDR3, PC3-12800 (1600), 240 Pin,
Asus P6T Del V2
Core i7 D0 stepping 920
60GB OCZ Technology, OCZSSD2-1VTX60G, MLC, 2.5", SATA 3Gb/s, 200MB/s
NorthQ Siberian Tiger Liquid Cooling

or
6GB DDR3, 1600MHz 3x240 DIMM, Unbuffered, 8-8-8-24, Matched XMS3 with
Asus P6T SE or MSI Pro
Core i7 920 W/O D0 stepping
Asus Triton 88 6 Copper Heat Pipe CPU Super Cooler for All Intel/AMD inc S1366

any suggestions welcome



 

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how the hell does the bottom one come out to the same as the top?

if your saving cash, get a D0 stepping 920, might aswell pay an extra £5 for way better overclocking.

a P6T SE since it will overclock just aswell, 3x2gb ocz 2ghz ram(£105 at overclockers.co.uk), IFX-14 with 2 thermalright 2000rpm fans. and whatever else you want to put in there.
 

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Hi thanks for the reply I want to build a decent rig but for as cheap as possible without sacrificing quality. I have read numerous reviews but can't make my mind up. I was hoping people who have any of these boards / parts might comment on there experiance of using them.

I have about £750 to get a parts I plan to get the following for cooling

NorthQ Siberian Tiger Liquid Cooling All AMD/Intel with 120mm Ceramic NorthQ Fan
I read a review that said this was as good as any high end cpu cooler
£57.49 inc vat

Zalman ZM-MFC2 Multi Fan Controller with Display £39.66 inc vat

3 120mm Noctua NF-S12 1200 RPM Quiet Case Fan, White £14.94 inc vat
to replace the P182 case fans

1 120mm Arctic Cooling Arctic Fan 12025 PWM Cooling Fan
for use with the CPU Rad

Added a power reducer cable for the pump motor 12v to 7v
and the clip for the i7 Cpu

total incl postage £170.41

So i have approx £530 - £580 to spend on the mobo memory and cpu

has anyone used the NorthQ Siberian Tiger is it a good buy?
 

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it's not great from reviews, it provides cooling just below that of a Noctua NH-U12P.

save the money and get the heatsink I mentioned or pay the extra £20 for the coolit ALC.

I think you should get a phenom II build on that budget, It will save you a tonne of cash if you get a 940 or 720 that you could put towards a better graphics card, faster ram etc. or an alphacool aegis ready2go which is a case with a water cooling system already fitted, you just need coolant and your ready to go.
 

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I already have a case it arived today, and my 8800GTX works fine for the amount of pc gaming I do. I have never gone with AMD stuck in my ways I guess but would rather go with Intel

just wondering if there is that much diffrence between the P6T and P6T Deluxe version

and would i notice the diffrence between the Dominator or XMS 3 version of Corsair memory or could I save a few quid getting

Asus P6T SE, Intel X58, Sok 1366, PCI-E 2.0 (x16), DDR3 2000/1866/1800, SATA
6GB DDR3, 1600MHz 3x240 DIMM, Unbuffered, 8-8-8-24, Matched XMS3 with

I am curious so i might give the Siberian cooler a go.. I will give an update after install.

if there is not much in the memory and mobo then I could save £100 and put that towards an SSD drive.
 

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the P6t SE is just a P6T except it loses two sata ports iirc so you might aswell save yourself some cash + shipping go with the SE.

what are the timings and hz of the dominator ram?

I still think you'll prefer a coolit ALC or high-end air cooler to the NorthQ.
 

mike2098

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The Dominator operate at 1600MHz at latencies of 8-8-8-24 at 1.65V

The XMS3 operate at 1600MHz at latencies of 8-8-8-24 at 1.65V

the main diffrence seems to be the heat sinks.

I did contemplate

Thermalright Ultra 120 eXtreme 120mm Heat Sink Fan for Intel 775 & 1366

or

Zalman CNPS9900-LED PWM Tunnel Flower Cooler 1366/775/AM2+/AM2

or

Asus Triton 88 6 Copper Heat Pipe CPU Super Cooler for All Intel/AMD inc S1366

as air coolers but want a quiet system as I will only moderatly O.C I read the NorthQ was on par but much quieter?

and like I said I am a little curious. :)
 

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go with whichever is cheaper for the ram then.

the NorthQ might be quieter but you could also fit a quieter scythe fan to the ultra 120 which would make it a tiny bit louder than the NorthQ but it would also cool better.
 

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the akasa nero is a very good cooler and has a great temps/noise ratio so good choice.

how much is the 260? because 4890's sell for under £200 now and the extra £40 would be worth it since you can overclock them to be as fast as a GTX 285.
 

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I am going for an 60Gb SSD Drive on a few reviews I have read they mention the chipset coolers being a bit inadequate any sugestions on better replacements


 

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I was refering to the MSI Pro board having bad chipset cooling!

Ok so this is what I got in the end

Akasa AK-PAX-2 PaxMate II Acoustic
Sound Proofing Kit for Case - Midi to Full
Tower
£10.49 £12.06

2 LN17318 120mm Noctua NF-S12 1200 RPM Quiet
Case Fan, White
£25.98 £29.88

1 LN18950 120mm AKASA AK-191SM near Silent
smokey grey value case fan
£3.49 £4.01

1 LN20278 Zalman ZM-MFC2 Multi Fan Controller
with Display
£34.49 £39.66

1 LN24646 1TB Western Digital WD10EADS Green,
SATA 3Gb/s, 32MB Cache, 5400 ~ 7200
rpm
£63.39 £72.90

1 LN25447 6GB (3x2GB) Corsair Dominator DDR3,
PC3-12800 (1600), 240 Pin, Non-ECC
Unbuffered, CAS 8, DHX, EPP
£111.12 £127.79

1 Asus P6T SE, Intel X58, Sok 1366,
PCI-E 2.0 (x16), DDR3 2000/1866/1800,
SATA 3Gb/s, SATA RAID, ATX +
LN26740 Asus P6T SE, Intel X58, Sok
1366, PCI-E 2.0 (x16), DDR3 2000/1866
/1800, SATA 3Gb/s, SATA RAID, ATX

LN27163 Intel i7 920, D0 (SLBEJ) -
Socket 1366 (B), Nehalem, 2.66GHz, QPI
4.8GT/s, Cache 8MB, 130W, Retail

I put it all together last night into a Antec P182 case it powered up fine, I only had the stock cooler as the one I wanted was not in stock, the first thing i did was update the bios which went just fine.

when I tried to OC very slightly bk from 133 to 140 the system just hung on reboot I turned off speed steping left HT on I could get it to boot at 135 which is tiny if i tried to use the built in D.O.C overclock the system would hang

So has anyone else got this board /cpu and have you managed to get a decent O.C ??
 

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Update
ok so after some reading I have managed to get 3.81 Ghz on stock cooler

using bk 190
cpu 1.35v
dram 1.66v

which I plaesed with

temps with speedfan idle

GPU 70c
CPU52c
system 46c

I am a little disapointed in the noctua fans as they don't seem to push much air out of the case and I had to swap the 120mm AKASA AK-191SM near Silent fan at the front of the case to one of the original antec case fans set to max to help pull some air into the case.

So i will be getting 2 more case fans anyone have any sugestions and does anyone know why my graphics card is so hot at idle ?or could it be a bad reading from speedfan?

thanks

Mike
 

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So these are my results O.C to 4Ghz on air

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pretty pleased with the results 32c idle is good and my whole system is only using 195w at idle
 

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I'm surprised to hear you were able to OC it that well, how stable is it? According to the Asus website the P6T SE is the same as the P6T with only 8+2 power phase design and only has 31 step voltage control over the P6T having 36 step, which from what I've been told makes OCing a lot less stable.

I've been looking at the P6T SE myself because I don't plan to run SLI and I'd rather save roughly $100 compared to the P6T and P6T Deluxe V2 but when I was told OCing might not be as stable I was unsure about it.
 

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Bump, I'd like to know if anyone can verify the information about the P6T SE that I heard with regards to overclocking.
 

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