My new 1070 isn't meeting benchmarks, like at all.

[Nolan_S]

Hey guys, I bought into the hype and bought a new 1070. Right now I'm a little disappointed in how well it's performing. For example; on Fallout 4, with mostly Ultra settings with god rays and weapon debris off and DoF on low, I'm pushing 48fps. In the new DOOM I'm getting 90fps average, not low I know, but that's actually only about 8fps higher than my 970 was. In Warframe I'm recieving about 75fps in missions, which actually feels lower than my previous 970, along with some micro-stutters every now and then. I'm not sure about my WoW framerate, but I'm also getting quite a few microstutters.

My PC's specs are;

MSI GTX 1070
Intel i7-3770k @3.5ghz
16gb RAM (4gb X 4)

I'm also using Windows 10, and a 144hz monitor as well if that matters at all. Both Windows and my Nvidia drivers are up to date. I'm at a loss here guys.

I really appreciate any help and opportunities to learn you guys can give me. Thank you all so much in advance.

EDIT: I used MSI afterburner and I have a comparison of how my 1070 is stacking up against someone else's;
mine: http://imgur.com/a/zxdDc
and his: http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/267220159349715408/32B602CA598D1B75AE1F3136B2DEC695376E6F53/

You can see that my GPU just isn't using all it's resources for some reason. At this point I've uninstalled and reinstalled drivers using DDU, as well as fiddled with the clock speed in MSI afterburner.

 

[helpstar]

uninstall the nvidia drivers with ddu uninstaller, delete all nvidia game profiles, if you edited them
install latest nvidia.com drivers

update bios of the motherboard

run 3dmark basic edition (firestrike default settings) and post the LINK which comes up at the end in your browser

 

[Warmacblu]

It's really hard to tell if the comparison you made means anything because they are different scenes. It does look like your GPU isn't running at 100% core clock meaning it could be in power savings mode. Try disabling that in the nVIDIA control panel. I changed it to "Adaptive" and it seems to work fine for my GTX 1070.

 

[Nolan_S]

It's really hard to tell if the comparison you made means anything because they are different scenes. It does look like your GPU isn't running at 100% core clock meaning it could be in power savings mode. Try disabling that in the nVIDIA control panel. I changed it to "Adaptive" and it seems to work fine for my GTX 1070.

I thought it was that but I have it set to performance mode. Fallout 4 is not the only game running this way of course, it's all running rather poorly.

 

[Nolan_S]

uninstall the nvidia drivers with ddu uninstaller, delete all nvidia game profiles, if you edited them
install latest nvidia.com drivers

update bios of the motherboard

run 3dmark basic edition (firestrike default settings) and post the LINK which comes up at the end in your browser

I've been told that forcing a motherboard BIOS can effectively brick my pc. Why would I want to try this exactly?

 

[helpstar]

because of incompatibility issues that could be gone after an update.

Which motherboard do you use? modern motherboards have dual bios or flashback options, there i no risk at all.
the main problem most people get trouble is while updating inside windows. If you update the bios inside the bios itself, there would be the smallest risk to brick it. This risk would be a power outage while rewriting the cmos.

 

[Nolan_S]

because of incompatibility issues that could be gone after an update.

Which motherboard do you use? modern motherboards have dual bios or flashback options, there i no risk at all.
the main problem most people get trouble is while updating inside windows. If you update the bios inside the bios itself, there would be the smallest risk to brick it. This risk would be a power outage while rewriting the cmos.

It's an ASRock Z77 extreme.

 

[helpstar]

asrock has a very good support in my experience. They even sent me a bios chip, because something was not working ok, without charg, outside of
warranty 😀

Asrock is providing a "Crashless BIOS", which means if it crashes while updating, just plug in a flashdrive with the bios file on it, boot and wait till it starts over again.

the latest update from 2015 is in beta status, but wouldn´t hassle to get it. If it was not stable, it wouldn´t be there anymore.

 

[Warmacblu]

It's really hard to tell if the comparison you made means anything because they are different scenes. It does look like your GPU isn't running at 100% core clock meaning it could be in power savings mode. Try disabling that in the nVIDIA control panel. I changed it to "Adaptive" and it seems to work fine for my GTX 1070.

I thought it was that but I have it set to performance mode. Fallout 4 is not the only game running this way of course, it's all running rather poorly.

Are you running multiple monitors?

Also, could you please play Fallout 4 for a bit (15+ minutes) and take a screenshot of the MSI Afterburner monitoring window with at least FPS, Core Clock, Memory Clock, GPU Usage and GPU Temp?

 

[helpstar]

please run 3dmark

 

[RobCrezz]

Check your CPU speed and temps. Perhaps the cooler got disturbed and its now throttling.

 

[Nolan_S]

please run 3dmark

Is this what you needed to see? http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/13784993

 

[Nolan_S]

It's really hard to tell if the comparison you made means anything because they are different scenes. It does look like your GPU isn't running at 100% core clock meaning it could be in power savings mode. Try disabling that in the nVIDIA control panel. I changed it to "Adaptive" and it seems to work fine for my GTX 1070.

I thought it was that but I have it set to performance mode. Fallout 4 is not the only game running this way of course, it's all running rather poorly.

Are you running multiple monitors?

Also, could you please play Fallout 4 for a bit (15+ minutes) and take a screenshot of the MSI Afterburner monitoring window with at least FPS, Core Clock, Memory Clock, GPU Usage and GPU Temp?

It's a single monitor setup; http://imgur.com/a/afjLW

CPU usage was maxing out at about 23% with a highest of 45 degrees, so I'm not sure if it's that either.

 

[RobCrezz]

Thats showing GPU usage not CPU?

 

[Nolan_S]

Thats showing GPU usage not CPU?

Warmacblu asked for the screenshot using gpu usage and such. I monitored CPU usage and temps separately on arx control, since it wasn't showing up in afterburner, which is why I said the CPU temp and usage below the link.

 

[RobCrezz]

What about the CPU clock speed? Are all the cores/threads showing up?

 

[Nolan_S]

What about the CPU clock speed? Are all the cores/threads showing up?

MSI is recognizing 8 cores, don't know about the clock speed though.

 

[RobCrezz]

Have a look in Task manager, expand it out, select Performance, then CPU, should show the clock speed. Check that when the game is running.

 

[Warmacblu]

It's really hard to tell if the comparison you made means anything because they are different scenes. It does look like your GPU isn't running at 100% core clock meaning it could be in power savings mode. Try disabling that in the nVIDIA control panel. I changed it to "Adaptive" and it seems to work fine for my GTX 1070.

I thought it was that but I have it set to performance mode. Fallout 4 is not the only game running this way of course, it's all running rather poorly.

Are you running multiple monitors?

Also, could you please play Fallout 4 for a bit (15+ minutes) and take a screenshot of the MSI Afterburner monitoring window with at least FPS, Core Clock, Memory Clock, GPU Usage and GPU Temp?

It's a single monitor setup; http://imgur.com/a/afjLW

CPU usage was maxing out at about 23% with a highest of 45 degrees, so I'm not sure if it's that either.

Could you take a screenshot of the actual graphs that show changes over time?

 

[TMTOWTSAC]

Saw a Reddit thread with something similar here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/3ssvnp/low_fps_in_cities_fallout_4_gtx_970/

One poster said he was getting 50-60fps, installed the latest driver, plunged to 25-45 fps. Eventually he downloaded Geforce Experience, used the Optimize feature, and started hitting 70-100 fps. The interesting thing here is that he went back in manually and set all the graphics options back to Ultra without a significant hit to framerate. That implies some sort of internal setting got changed, one that isn't user accessible.

 

[Nolan_S]

Have a look in Task manager, expand it out, select Performance, then CPU, should show the clock speed. Check that when the game is running.

Oh I see. 3.7 ghz, it says max speed is 3.5ghz, 1 socket, 4 cores, 8 logical proccesors, I see 1600 threads too.

 

[Warmacblu]

Saw a Reddit thread with something similar here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/3ssvnp/low_fps_in_cities_fallout_4_gtx_970/

One poster said he was getting 50-60fps, installed the latest driver, plunged to 25-45 fps. Eventually he downloaded Geforce Experience, used the Optimize feature, and started hitting 70-100 fps. The interesting thing here is that he went back in manually and set all the graphics options back to Ultra without a significant hit to framerate. That implies some sort of internal setting got changed, one that isn't user accessible.

I agree, there is some setting that is causing the GPU frequency to not maintain its maximum MHz. In the screenshot that the OP posted, his 1070 is only at 1500 MHz which is about 500 less (25%) than what it should be while gaming.

 

[Nolan_S]

It's really hard to tell if the comparison you made means anything because they are different scenes. It does look like your GPU isn't running at 100% core clock meaning it could be in power savings mode. Try disabling that in the nVIDIA control panel. I changed it to "Adaptive" and it seems to work fine for my GTX 1070.

I thought it was that but I have it set to performance mode. Fallout 4 is not the only game running this way of course, it's all running rather poorly.

Are you running multiple monitors?

Also, could you please play Fallout 4 for a bit (15+ minutes) and take a screenshot of the MSI Afterburner monitoring window with at least FPS, Core Clock, Memory Clock, GPU Usage and GPU Temp?

It's a single monitor setup; http://imgur.com/a/afjLW

CPU usage was maxing out at about 23% with a highest of 45 degrees, so I'm not sure if it's that either.

Could you take a screenshot of the actual graphs that show changes over time?

Saw a Reddit thread with something similar here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/3ssvnp/low_fps_in_cities_fallout_4_gtx_970/

One poster said he was getting 50-60fps, installed the latest driver, plunged to 25-45 fps. Eventually he downloaded Geforce Experience, used the Optimize feature, and started hitting 70-100 fps. The interesting thing here is that he went back in manually and set all the graphics options back to Ultra without a significant hit to framerate. That implies some sort of internal setting got changed, one that isn't user accessible.

This issue isn't exclusive to Fallout 4 for me, all games are underperforming.

 

[Nolan_S]

It's really hard to tell if the comparison you made means anything because they are different scenes. It does look like your GPU isn't running at 100% core clock meaning it could be in power savings mode. Try disabling that in the nVIDIA control panel. I changed it to "Adaptive" and it seems to work fine for my GTX 1070.

I thought it was that but I have it set to performance mode. Fallout 4 is not the only game running this way of course, it's all running rather poorly.

Are you running multiple monitors?

Also, could you please play Fallout 4 for a bit (15+ minutes) and take a screenshot of the MSI Afterburner monitoring window with at least FPS, Core Clock, Memory Clock, GPU Usage and GPU Temp?

It's a single monitor setup; http://imgur.com/a/afjLW

CPU usage was maxing out at about 23% with a highest of 45 degrees, so I'm not sure if it's that either.

Could you take a screenshot of the actual graphs that show changes over time?

I wouldn't know how to do that, I don't see an option for such in afterburner. I can tell you that I see the numbers changing very little, aside from the GPU usage jumping around a 15% range.

 

[Warmacblu]

It's really hard to tell if the comparison you made means anything because they are different scenes. It does look like your GPU isn't running at 100% core clock meaning it could be in power savings mode. Try disabling that in the nVIDIA control panel. I changed it to "Adaptive" and it seems to work fine for my GTX 1070.

I thought it was that but I have it set to performance mode. Fallout 4 is not the only game running this way of course, it's all running rather poorly.

Are you running multiple monitors?

Also, could you please play Fallout 4 for a bit (15+ minutes) and take a screenshot of the MSI Afterburner monitoring window with at least FPS, Core Clock, Memory Clock, GPU Usage and GPU Temp?

It's a single monitor setup; http://imgur.com/a/afjLW

CPU usage was maxing out at about 23% with a highest of 45 degrees, so I'm not sure if it's that either.

Could you take a screenshot of the actual graphs that show changes over time?

I wouldn't know how to do that, I don't see an option for such in afterburner. I can tell you that I see the numbers changing very little, aside from the GPU usage jumping around a 15% range.

It's called the Hardware Monitor and is usually attached to the main window unless you detached it or closed it. I am mostly interested in that low Core Frequency number. It should be closer to 2000 MHz which tells me the card is throttling down the MHz to conserve power.