[SOLVED] My new 2070 super is not getting good fps.

[grantcstephenson]

I just bought a RTX 2070 super, but it is performing about the same as my old RX 580. I know it should be doing a lot better but i cant seem to figure out the issue.

 

[DSzymborski]

What are the rest of the specs? And did you fully remove the driver using something like DDU? And what's the actual data, apples-to-apples FPS comparisons? And have you run any benchmarks?

 

[grantcstephenson]

What are the rest of the specs? And did you fully remove the driver using something like DDU? And what's the actual data, apples-to-apples FPS comparisons? And have you run any benchmarks?

The rest of the specs are a ryzen 7 1700, 16 gb trident z rgb 3200, and a 620w seasonic psu. i haven't ran any benchmarks but i only get maybe 20 more fps than my last card (160-180 fps) on low settings. i didnt fully remove the drivers but i tried the recommended drivers from both evga and nvidia.

 

[DSzymborski]

The rest of the specs are a ryzen 7 1700, 16 gb trident z rgb 3200, and a 620w seasonic psu. i haven't ran any benchmarks but i only get maybe 20 more fps than my last card (160-180 fps) on low settings. i didnt fully remove the drivers but i tried the recommended drivers from both evga and nvidia.

Use DDU and fully remove all drivers, including your old ones. And then use only the newest drivers, directly from Nvidia.

And don't test on low. The lower your settings, the less you're actually putting on your GPU. Hard to get meaningful test results in unstressful situations.

 

[grantcstephenson]

Use DDU and fully remove all drivers, including your old ones. And then use only the newest drivers, directly from Nvidia.

And don't test on low. The lower your settings, the less you're actually putting on your GPU. Hard to get meaningful test results in unstressful situations.

So i did everything you told me and i got the same performance as i was before using DDU. Then i tested out ultra like you asked and i was getting the exact same framerates as i was on low.

 

[Jason H.]

So i did everything you told me and i got the same performance as i was before using DDU. Then i tested out ultra like you asked and i was getting the exact same framerates as i was on low.

what game or games?

 

[grantcstephenson]

what game or games?

Rainbow Six Seige

 

[DSzymborski]

Rainbow Six Seige

Well, you're well at the rate of diminishing returns. A little on the light side in difference, but this is such an easy game to run, you're not really testing the GPUs.

I think you need to do actual benchmarking to see if there's a problem here.

 

[grantcstephenson]

Well, you're well at the rate of diminishing returns. A little on the light side in difference, but this is such an easy game to run, you're not really testing the GPUs.

I think you need to do actual benchmarking to see if there's a problem here.

Well, Im having the same results in every game i have tried. (Fortnite, Modern Warfare, Minecraft, R6 ) and i did the in game benchmark in R6. it was a good bit lower than other 2070 super benchmarks. do you think it could have something to do with the cpu and the power delivery to it. i saw another similar forum post and it said something like that. the cpu power spot on my motherboard has a spot missing where a 4 pin connector would go because my psu cables didnt have enough connectors to fill it. but i had no problems with my previous card.

 

[DSzymborski]

Well, Im having the same results in every game i have tried. (Fortnite, Modern Warfare, Minecraft, R6 ) and i did the in game benchmark in R6. it was a good bit lower than other 2070 super benchmarks. do you think it could have something to do with the cpu and the power delivery to it. i saw another similar forum post and it said something like that. the cpu power spot on my motherboard has a spot missing where a 4 pin connector would go because my psu cables didnt have enough connectors to fill it. but i had no problems with my previous card.

You've run DDU, installed new drivers, run all these benchmarks, and then posted about all this in an hour?

 

[grantcstephenson]

You've run DDU, installed new drivers, run all these benchmarks, and then posted about all this in an hour?

yes. the only benchmark i ran was the in game one in rainbow six seige. I was also working on this for a while before i asked about it .

 

[Phaaze88]

yes. the only benchmark i ran was the in game one in rainbow six seige. I was also working on this for a while before i asked about it .

Home - UserBenchmark

Close your browser before you actually run the benchmark, or it'll screw with the results.
Post the actual LINK to the results.

 

[grantcstephenson]

Home - UserBenchmark

Close your browser before you actually run the benchmark, or it'll screw with the results.
Post the actual LINK to the results.

UserBenchmarks: Game 92%, Desk 70%, Work 74%
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1700 - 71%
GPU: Nvidia RTX 2070S (Super) - 104.3%
SSD: Kingston A400 240GB - 77.6%
HDD: Microsoft Storage Space Device 966GB - 96.1%
RAM: G.SKILL Trident Z RGB DDR4 3200 C16 2x8GB - 103.6%
MBD: MSI B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC (MS-7B85)

it said the 2070 super was "performing way below expectation" and it was 7th percentile

 

[Phaaze88]

UserBenchmarks: Game 92%, Desk 70%, Work 74%
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1700 - 71%
GPU: Nvidia RTX 2070S (Super) - 104.3%
SSD: Kingston A400 240GB - 77.6%
HDD: Microsoft Storage Space Device 966GB - 96.1%
RAM: G.SKILL Trident Z RGB DDR4 3200 C16 2x8GB - 103.6%
MBD: MSI B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC (MS-7B85)

it said the 2070 super was "performing way below expectation" and it was 7th percentile

What kind of temps does this card normally see under loads? That's something you've yet to post.

In Nvidia Control Panel > Manage 3D Settings, Power management mode is set to either Adaptive or Max Performance?

 

[grantcstephenson]

What kind of temps does this card normally see under loads? That's something you've yet to post.

In Nvidia Control Panel > Manage 3D Settings, Power management mode is set to either Adaptive or Max Performance?

power management mode is optimal power. and i havent looked at the temps under load

 

[Phaaze88]

power management mode is optimal power. and i havent looked at the temps under load

Set it to either Adaptive or Max and check the gpu temps in game and on Unigine Heaven Benchmark - use the following preset for Heaven:
Preset: Custom
API: DirectX 11
Quality: Ultra
Tessellation: Extreme
Stereo 3D: Disabled
Multi-monitor: Disabled
Anti-aliasing: x8
Full Screen: Check
Resolution: Monitor's native res

 

[grantcstephenson]

Set it to either Adaptive or Max and check the gpu temps in game and on Unigine Heaven Benchmark - use the following preset for Heaven:
Preset: Custom
API: DirectX 11
Quality: Ultra
Tessellation: Extreme
Stereo 3D: Disabled
Multi-monitor: Disabled
Anti-aliasing: x8
Full Screen: Check
Resolution: Monitor's native res

FPS: 119.8 Score: 3019 Min FPS: 9.3 Max FPS: 236.8

 

[Phaaze88]

FPS: 119.8 Score: 3019 Min FPS: 9.3 Max FPS: 236.8

What were the gpu's temps during this?
During your other games?

 

[grantcstephenson]

What were the gpu's temps during this?
During your other games?

i didnt look at the temps. what should i use to do that.

 

[Phaaze88]

You can use:
-Msi Afterburner
-EVGA Precision X
-HWINFO

 

[grantcstephenson]

You can use:
-Msi Afterburner
-EVGA Precision X
-HWINFO

so i tested out the temps and during the heaven benchmark it stayed around 69 degrees, but when i played r6 it stayed around 55 degrees and didnt go over 58. the settings where on low everything and i was getting framerates as low as 140 and it rarely went over 190

 

[Phaaze88]

so i tested out the temps and during the heaven benchmark it stayed around 69 degrees

Ok. That's good.

but when i played r6 it stayed around 55 degrees and didnt go over 58. the settings where on low everything and i was getting framerates as low as 140 and it rarely went over 190

I see what's going on here now...

This is a straight up user-created cpu limitation.
One does not, or should not, get a 2070 Super just to run the games on low, unless said games are unplayable at higher settings... from what you've shown so far, they're far from unplayable.

Higher resolutions and graphics settings = more gpu workload, less cpu load. The opposite is true vice versa.
The Ryzen 1700 can not meet the demands of your playstyle. You now need something like a 9700K or 9900K.

 

[grantcstephenson]

Ok. That's good.


I see what's going on here now...

This is a straight up user-created cpu limitation.
One does not, or should not, get a 2070 Super just to run the games on low, unless said games are unplayable at higher settings... from what you've shown so far, they're far from unplayable.

Higher resolutions and graphics settings = more gpu workload, less cpu load. The opposite is true vice versa.
The Ryzen 1700 can not meet the demands of your playstyle. You now need something like a 9700K or 9900K.

The reason I was wanting to play on low settings is because i have a 240 hz monitor and i wanted to have a consistent framerate over 240. So the cpu is the problem?

 

[Phaaze88]

The reason I was wanting to play on low settings is because i have a 240 hz monitor and i wanted to have a consistent framerate over 240. So the cpu is the problem?

Yes. It's simply too slow for that.

 

[grantcstephenson]

Yes. It's simply too slow for that.

Yes. It's simply too slow for that.

ok. thank you. can you tell me an amd equivalent processor to the 9700k so i dont have to buy another motherboard too?