My new pc and skyrim(modded) ( maybe an oldie but still a goldie )

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Hello all thanks to those that helped me select my new up grade parts for my PC . Since i went with the Fx-8350 and the gtx 970 4gb( they are in transit now )

I have burning question to ask. I am a skyrim junkie , i started playing it on console and once i discoved it on PC well let us just say the consol version is colecting a nice layer of dust . it is one of my big reasons for wanting to beef up my computer this time around , playing skyrim modded with realvision enb full settings and several texture mods . I was getting around 25-30 fps with lags and choppy frame rates down into the teens at time .

with the fx-8350 and the gtx 970 4gb will I see a dramatic increase in frame rate on the game ? something around 45-50 fps at 1080p to un reasonable to expect while running an ENB ? I have looked else where for an awnser for this question but it remains with out a soild awnser for me. I mean i will know in a day or two but the suspense is killing me !!
 
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In the post that I mentioned it I said "performance/look wise.". It's better looking than FXAA while still be very light on resource usage. Obviously super-sampling (or ubersampling) is the best looking.
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The Fx-8350 wasn't a good choice for skyrim. A 4670k would have given you many more frames. Skyrim doesn't need anywhere near the power of a 970. Even still you should be able to run most mods just fine, including enb. Your CPU is going to crimp your performance in certain areas. Be sure not to set shadows too high as they are done on the cpu side. It's better to have your cpu cycles going to mods, npcs, ect.
 
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The 8350 is great for skyrim plus skyrim uses more GPU more than CPU
 
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First of all, you don't actually state your old computers specs but let me try to answer.

For SKYRIM, the FX-8350 is going to be producing a CPU bottleneck at roughly 60FPS average for the Vanilla version (unmodded).

(This average may be higher with Vanilla + unofficial skyrim patches)

*However, graphical mods I assume would be mainly a huge hit on the GPU (Graphics Card). Your GTX970 is way overkill for unmodded Skyrim so depending on the ENB mod you choose and settings (quite a difference in mods) it's likely you can do heavy graphics modding and stay over 60FPS most of the time. Not necessarily ENB though, but there are so many versions and settings it's hard to be specific.

Note that Skyrim uses VSYNC which is problematic if you drop below the target refresh rate (stutter) which is usually 60FPS. Thus, I suggest forcing ADAPTIVE VSYNC on. So.. tips:

1) Force Adaptive VSYNC on (can research that) in NVidia Control Panel

2) Adjust MODS as needed to maintain desired frame rate (I suggest keeping above 60FPS at least 90% of the time).

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I have an Asus "TOP" GTX680 and i7-3770K. When I used certain ENB mods I also plummeted down near 20FPS. Again, largely a GPU bottleneck with ENB so even with a GTX970 I'd still be dropping to about 50% better or 30FPS. Those particular mods were unacceptable to me so I stopped.

So I suggest you don't go overboard on the ENB mod, or read up on how to tweak things since I just don't think the visual benefit warrants drops below 60FPS very often with a GTX970.

To be clear, with VSYNC (normally forced on) you'll get micro-stutter due to the sync mismatch if you drop below 60FPS (or whatever matches your refresh rate). Adaptive VSYNC just automatically turns VSYNC OFF if you fail to meet to maintain the target refresh but the disadvantage is SCREEN TEARING which for some people is horrible.

Thus, for some people at least a constant 60FPS (VSYNC or Adaptive VSYNC) is more important than maxed ENB settings that stutter.
 
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MFAA and Skyrim:

It's my understanding Skyrim is not yet supported. When it is be sure to test it out and see if you get much boost in frame rate. It's the minimum you'll have the most problem with which is likely a GPU bottleneck with ENB mods so a 10% to 20% boost would help.
 
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Dude, I'm a mod author for skyrim. Skyrim does NOT use more gpu than CPU.
 
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Not officialy. You can inject it though

http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/sweetfx-shader-suite-download.html

There's pretty much an injector or mod for any graphical effect for skyrim.
 
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You could always turn AA off at 1080p. The aliasing isn't bad at that resolution and it takes too much CPU to process it. TXAA really is the best method for Nvidia users performance/look wise. FXAA and similar methods cause image degradation as they "smooth" the whole frame. It's especially annoying when it effects font and the like. It's like everything was put through a blur filter.
 
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Good I am hoping it is over Kill :). I didn't upgrade my PC to play just skyrim. though it is the game that I come back to more often than any other. I upgraded to play the bevy of next gen games coming out in the next year . Like fortnight and others .
 
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Your set to go then. A 970 will be able to handle pretty much anything for awhile.

A would like to leave a little note. An AMD video card would have helped a bit in your situation. AMD cards have mantle which alleviates cpu bottlenecks. It's not universal but it would have given a few frames at least. Of course this is mute if the new directX that is coming out really reduces cpu overhead like they claim.
 
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An update now that I have installed my new hardware and played skyrim :)

I was worried about any potential bottleneck by the fx 8350 . my fears have been laid to rest on this . with the fx 8350 and the MSI gtx 970 . I am getting a fairly solid 60+ fps in most areas of the game with occasional drops to 50-ish if there is alot going on . If there is a bottle neck i certainly am not noticing it . i put both shogun 2 and rome 2 threw the test and both came out doing 90-110 fps with everything maxed out . ( three most intensive games i have for my pc right now )

I have to say, this pleases Jennifer greatly :)
 
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AA uses a lot more GPU power than CPU power.
TXAA the best method? You do know that TXAA is EXACTLY a full frame blur filter, right?

I have to say, this pleases Jennifer greatly :)
Click to expand...
If your name is Jennifer, than that illeism is a little strange...
 
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AMD cards have mantle which alleviates cpu bottlenecks.
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Another correction.

While AMD cards do handle AA a little better because of their high memory bandwidth,
Mantle wouldn't help her with skyrim since skyrim is just a regular DirectX game (DX9 at that)


Oh ok.

Enjoy your new hardware!

 
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Actually, no FXAA is a full frame blur. TXAA is a modified version similar to FXAA.
 
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You won't see any bottleneck until you install some large mods. It still won't be that bad even at that point.

 
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Of course I was referring to mantle games. I said that as a side note and not in reference to skyrim.
 
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