So, i had recently posted a question about the installation of a new GPU - and while not solved, we kind of got around the problem - but not really. We ran into something that we were simply not able to find a real explanation of .. so i will leave it here - maybe people experienced it, too (i mean the same, not similar) - and simply know what the problem was.. (caution, this is me recounting in detail)
the situation:
Due to complications with switching graphics cards - we decided to not only DUU the old drivers - but entirely wipe the old system drive and reinstall windows 11. Upon doing so - we ran into unexpected problems
We had the correct drivers downloaded prior to the reinstallation process on a thumb-drive. (version 525 i think) - downloaded from the official Nvidia site. When trying to install the new software and drivers .. the installer regularly crashed with a CRC error - an odd behaviour indeed as the very same thing happened when we tried the exe file to install the new driver. After more than 10 attempts, we removed the new GPU and stuck the old GPU in again .. and the very same file installed flawlessly (despite not being the correct card .. sort of).
So we had a fresh installation of Windows with a fresh installation of Nvidia drivers. We shut down the PC and swapped the GPU again. The PC booted up without a problem .. and the new GPU was accepted. It passed all tests (memory tests, authenticity tests, stress tests etc.) It showed acceptable scored in 3DMark Time Spy as well as Firestrike. Furmark stressed the GPU but showed compatible results according to Internet benchmarks. - We then updated the drivers to the latest Nvidia driver (version 528) at that time .. which installed without problems (it did not show another odd CRC error).
At that time, the PC ran on a PSU too weak for the GPU (in theory) at 750w. A week later, we swapped the PSU with a new 1200w, making sure that the GPU requirements were met. At the same time, we updated the BIOS to the latest version.
That is when new problems happened. Flashing the BIOS worked without apparent problems. The PC booted up and everything worked fine.... but about a few days later - upon booting up and/or restarting the PC .. i got blue screen error messages.
File: \windows\system32\ntoskrnl.exe
Error code: 0xc0000221
with the option to restart, repair or something else UEFI or so.
I cannot imagine Windows to be corrupt .. as we had just freshly installed it. The BIOS had also worked fine for days. The GPU settled and worked as expected. The system does not overheat (CPU temperatures are between 37c (idle) to maybe high 50s (under load) - with a 280mm Arctic freezer AIO.
The GPU remains at around 45c (idle) up to a max of high 60s under load.
It all started with the new GPU. We did test the GPU in another PC - and it ran perfectly fine - so I think one can rule out a faulty or corrupt GPU (thankfully) .. but on the other hand, i do not know why the rest of the system should not be working.
And the one thing that is odd is still that i was unable to install the driver with the new card installed - but had to resort to replace the GPU with the old one. The driver DOES recognize the GPU (so its not a fake or so .. also the benchmarking kind of proofs that it is a genuine 4090 and not some fake - as well as putting it into another system) - the BIOS might be the culprit, BUT .. the problems with the installation of the new driver happened BEFORE the BIOS update. So there must be something fishy.
I do not know what the error message is all about... but windows just does not like to boot up properly. IF it is the BIOS .. can the BIOS cause a corrupt windows system file?
More context:
We are actually taking the PC to a "PC doctor" (electrician that fixes computers) by the end of the week ... so i expect professional feedback on the problem. We (my friend and i - well rather my friend) has built PCs many times before - and i do not consider myself totally ignorant of PC stuff neither.
We checked everything when it comes to compatibility. Everything should work.
PC specs are:
So my questions are:
Also - i currently have another .zip file that does not want to unzip - showing a CRC error, too. But i am 100% certain that the file is NOT corrupt, because i have unpacked it in the past.
edit:
things done
the situation:
Due to complications with switching graphics cards - we decided to not only DUU the old drivers - but entirely wipe the old system drive and reinstall windows 11. Upon doing so - we ran into unexpected problems
We had the correct drivers downloaded prior to the reinstallation process on a thumb-drive. (version 525 i think) - downloaded from the official Nvidia site. When trying to install the new software and drivers .. the installer regularly crashed with a CRC error - an odd behaviour indeed as the very same thing happened when we tried the exe file to install the new driver. After more than 10 attempts, we removed the new GPU and stuck the old GPU in again .. and the very same file installed flawlessly (despite not being the correct card .. sort of).
So we had a fresh installation of Windows with a fresh installation of Nvidia drivers. We shut down the PC and swapped the GPU again. The PC booted up without a problem .. and the new GPU was accepted. It passed all tests (memory tests, authenticity tests, stress tests etc.) It showed acceptable scored in 3DMark Time Spy as well as Firestrike. Furmark stressed the GPU but showed compatible results according to Internet benchmarks. - We then updated the drivers to the latest Nvidia driver (version 528) at that time .. which installed without problems (it did not show another odd CRC error).
At that time, the PC ran on a PSU too weak for the GPU (in theory) at 750w. A week later, we swapped the PSU with a new 1200w, making sure that the GPU requirements were met. At the same time, we updated the BIOS to the latest version.
That is when new problems happened. Flashing the BIOS worked without apparent problems. The PC booted up and everything worked fine.... but about a few days later - upon booting up and/or restarting the PC .. i got blue screen error messages.
File: \windows\system32\ntoskrnl.exe
Error code: 0xc0000221
with the option to restart, repair or something else UEFI or so.
I cannot imagine Windows to be corrupt .. as we had just freshly installed it. The BIOS had also worked fine for days. The GPU settled and worked as expected. The system does not overheat (CPU temperatures are between 37c (idle) to maybe high 50s (under load) - with a 280mm Arctic freezer AIO.
The GPU remains at around 45c (idle) up to a max of high 60s under load.
It all started with the new GPU. We did test the GPU in another PC - and it ran perfectly fine - so I think one can rule out a faulty or corrupt GPU (thankfully) .. but on the other hand, i do not know why the rest of the system should not be working.
And the one thing that is odd is still that i was unable to install the driver with the new card installed - but had to resort to replace the GPU with the old one. The driver DOES recognize the GPU (so its not a fake or so .. also the benchmarking kind of proofs that it is a genuine 4090 and not some fake - as well as putting it into another system) - the BIOS might be the culprit, BUT .. the problems with the installation of the new driver happened BEFORE the BIOS update. So there must be something fishy.
I do not know what the error message is all about... but windows just does not like to boot up properly. IF it is the BIOS .. can the BIOS cause a corrupt windows system file?
More context:
We are actually taking the PC to a "PC doctor" (electrician that fixes computers) by the end of the week ... so i expect professional feedback on the problem. We (my friend and i - well rather my friend) has built PCs many times before - and i do not consider myself totally ignorant of PC stuff neither.
We checked everything when it comes to compatibility. Everything should work.
PC specs are:
- Ryzen 7 3700x
- Asus Tuf gaming B550m+ motherboard
- 4090 Founders Edition
- 4x 8GB Corsair Dominator Platinum system ram at 3200 (i think 2000 and something by default though, so 3200 is overclocked)
- Asus Thor 1200w
- Windows 11 (fresh installation) on m.2 NVME on board (checked and it is not faulty)
So my questions are:
- can a GPU cause CRC errors?
- what is up with the windows boot up blue screen?
- are my PC parts really compatible? or am i missing something here.
Also - i currently have another .zip file that does not want to unzip - showing a CRC error, too. But i am 100% certain that the file is NOT corrupt, because i have unpacked it in the past.
edit:
things done
- reseating the GPU
- reseating RAM
- BIOS flash (tried to flash it again, but it does not want to - tells me my .cap file is NOT a valid BIOS file)
- removed battery from the motherboard and reset it
- removed all bloatware (RGB programs and so)
- double checked cables - tried the GPU with 3 cables as well as 4
- i have not replaced the riser cable (some people said that not all riser cables are good enough for a 4090)
- i have not put the GPU into the motherboard directly, because there is no room (the AIO is in the way)