My PC crashes during games!

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Hi everyone,

Well, first it crashed (blue screen followed by restart) while playing BF:bad company 2 (could happen after 5 seconds could be 2 hours). I assumed the game might be a bit too much for my system as it was running sluggishly, so I got COD 4: MW. Of course, it crashed during that game, too. It used to crash during normal usage (surfing web etc.) until I got a new hard drive. Now it only crashes during games (hooray).
My specs are as follows:
Win 7 Ultimate 32bit
EP43-DS3L
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7300 2.66GHz
2GB RAM
Radeon 4670 2GB

Is there anything specifically problematic with my hardware? What should I do??

Thanks!
 

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Might be worth getting something like Core Temp to watch your CPU temps and see if its getting a little too hot. Maybe use GPU-z and watch your GPU temps too. Some of those types of things can cause crashes. Could also try underclocking your GPU and Video RAM as well to see if that clears up the issues. Things to try, no sure fixes:)
 
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Hmm, I'm a bit of a noob to all this I might need a step by step :ange:

My PSU seems to be Gigabyte GE-C420N-C2. I'm guessing 420 is the wattage?

What's next?


thanks for the help guys :)
 

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Yeah, its a 420W PSU. Seems like it ought to be enough (can't really find many details on that particular PSU, and I dont think Gigabyte is really much of a PSU brand, so I'd be wary of it, but really should be whats causing it. You check your temps yet?
 

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Your graphics card requires a minimum400W or greater PSU. So you're pretty much on the boundary to begin with. On top of this, as flyinfinni mentioned, Gigabyte aren't renowned for the PSUs and many poor quality PSUs don't actually deliver their full rated wattage in everyday use.

Check your temps first, but if they seem ok then my money's on the PSU.
 

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Moody- just as a point of interest- even though it says "min of 400W PSU" that is actually quite a bit more than it REALLY needs. IF you go out and look up how much power the 4670 uses, its actually pretty remarkably low (up until the 5xxx series it was considered ridiculously low for its performance). Grand total of 139 W system power at load from Anand's review
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3405&p=9
(granted if you fully load your CPU with that it'll jump a bit more, but only maybe to a little over 200W). Not the same setup as the OP is using, but still, really ought to have enough power unless the supply has really deteriorated from its original state.
 
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Again, sorry for being an amateur, but I'm supposed to check them while playing a game, right? And what would be within the normal temp range for the CPU and GPU?
 
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Ok, here's what I got,
CPU: Max 59C
GPU: Max 34C

does that make sense? Isn't that really cold for the GPU?.. I made sure it's displaying the max temp and not average or current.
 

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No- not necessarily cold for the GPU. Its not as high as I would expect, but its not really a high-powered, super hot card.
Both of those look totally acceptable though, so thats good, but doesn't really help us much in figuring out what IS causing the problem.
I would start leaning toward a problematic GPU or a PSU issue, but seems kinda strange.
 

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They make a 4670 with 2GBs of ram???

I'd probably take another look at the PSU. 420 is more then enough power, but if its dirty power then it can cause problems. 60c for the CPU is a bit much as well, do the C2D series employ thermal throttling like the P4s did? Might be doing that to keep it at 60.
 
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Memtest showed no errors.

Is there any way of testing that the PSU and/or CPU are working properly?
Or are there other things that need to be ruled out?

Help :cry:
 

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Many things could be wrong, power uspply rail vail amp to weak. Not enough ram for the graphic settings you might be using, your motherboard is crap. Give specifics and we can help you better. i know my self every 2 years I fork out about 1200 bucks on a brand new middle high end system. I always use evga moboard and graphics card. Thermaltake PSu and ram well it depends whats good, and raptor hd's. If oyu want to play fps you need to spend some money. Know one want to play a game that is supposed to look awsome and it looks like the xbox 360....lol
 

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i saw your system specs sorry about my crap post. It sems to me you may have motherboard issues, try to update bios and if that dosent work rma it, or go on new egg and by something else. Usually when a psu dosnt work right it dosnt work at all. So im guessing ram, video, or motherboard. Do a ram diag check you can download them on toms im sure, do a hd diag check. then check your cpu temps. Youl find out what it is and TOMs got it all.
 

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At 60C, the CPU should ahve no problems. People run those Core2Quads OCed at MUCH MUCH higher temps than that with no problems, so I SERIOUSLY doubt that theres anything wrong with the CPU. Could be a Mobo issue, but really hard to verify that, especially when its only crapping out in 3d games. Sounds more like a PSU issue where things start crapping out at higher loads.
I guess one way to test that would be to download Prime95 and Furmark, and run them both and just crank your CPU and GPU utilization up and see if it causes it to crash. You should probably also run each of them separately because that could narrow the problem down to one part or the other.
 
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Ok guys I have something, after running memtest for over 6 hrs while I wasn't on the PC it said it found 2 errors and then I got this message:



Are there normal errors during ram testing or could this be it?

thanks again everyone.
 
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Ok, gonna get some new RAM tomorrow and give that a go. It's pretty cheap today so what the hell :)

Can't thank you people enough. Good karma to you lot :D
 

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Might also want to check your settings before sending it off. If your ram is 5-5-5-18 @ 2.0v and your trying to run it at 5-5-5-15 @ 1.8v that could be your problem. Look up your ram and figure out what settings its supposed to be using, then verify that's what your using.