Question My monitor only shows image using my old GPU, no image with new GPU or with integrated graphics ?

[Swoopi26]

I bought new a RTX 3060 Ti GPU and I installed it on my PC which previously had a Radeon RX 5500 XT.

I followed the process of removing the old drivers using DDU, but when the time came to install the new GPU, I didn't get any image from either the BIOS or Windows, after several tests, I decided to just use the integrated graphics of my CPU, but when I connected my HDMI cable to the motherboard I didn't get any image either, my processor is an i5-9400F and my motherboard is an MSI H31M, can anyone tell what's going on?

My PSU is an Azza PSAZ-650W 80+ Bronze certified.

My disk drives are a Kingston SA400S37240G for my OS and a WDC WD10EZEX-08M2NA0 1T, both are 80% full

The new GPU is conected correctly, the RGB works fine and the fans are running normally, but i notice that the 3 red leds on top of the pci-e power supply conection blink every time i startup the pc, but just one blink.

I uses another hdmi and see no change however my monitor is kinda old, but it works fine with the old gpu.

Edit:

I finally managed to solve the problem, it had everything to do with the PSU, more specifically the GPU power cable, using a PSU of similar quality, I put aside the daisy chain connection and used 2 single cables for the power, thanks to everyone who helped me solve the problem without you I might not have been able to. thank you very much!!

Although now everything works perfectly, the GPU LEDs blink when starting the system, but I think and hope that it is not something to worry about, what you think?

 

[drivinfast247]

I bought new a gpu a RTX 30606ti, I installed it on my PC, which had an AMD Radeon RX 5500 XT, I followed the process of removing the old drivers using DDU, but when the time came to install the new GPU, I didn't get any image from either the BIOS or Windows, after several tests, I decided to just use the integrated graphics of my CPU, but when I connected my HDMI cable to the motherboard I didn't get any image either, my processor is an i-59400 F and my motherboard is an MSI H31M, can anyone tell what's going on?

"F" series cpus lack integrated video. You'll get no output without a GPU.

Please list all PC specs.

 

[Ralston18]

Update your post to include full system hardware specs and OS information.

Include PSU: make, model, wattage, age, condition (original to build, new, refurbished, used)?

Disk drives: make, model, capacity, how full?

Are you sure that the new GPU is correctly and fully in place?

Did you try another known working HDMI cable

Did you try connecting to another known working monitor or TV?

Go directly to the manufacturer's website to manually download, install, and configure the GPU drivers.

No third party tools or installers.

 

[Swoopi26]

Update your post to include full system hardware specs and OS information.

Include PSU: make, model, wattage, age, condition (original to build, new, refurbished, used)?

Disk drives: make, model, capacity, how full?

Are you sure that the new GPU is correctly and fully in place?

Did you try another known working HDMI cable

Did you try connecting to another known working monitor or TV?

Go directly to the manufacturer's website to manually download, install, and configure the GPU drivers.

No third party tools or installers.

Thanks, done it.

 

[Ralston18]

This motherboard?

https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/M7C09v1.2.pdf

[Verify that I found the applicable User Guide/Manual.]

A single blink may indicate that all is well and simply serves to prove that the LED is working.

However, I am not sure about the described LED location - are you looking at the EZ Debug LEDs per physically numbered Page 13 of the linked manual?

 

[Swoopi26]

This motherboard?

https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/M7C09v1.2.pdf

[Verify that I found the applicable User Guide/Manual.]

A single blink may indicate that all is well and simply serves to prove that the LED is working.

However, I am not sure about the described LED location - are you looking at the EZ Debug LEDs per physically numbered Page 13 of the linked manual?

Sorry i was wrong the mother board is a Gigabyte H310m M.2 2.0 Micro Atx, and the lesd that blink are the ones in the gpu the rtx 30606ti above the 12 input power pins.

I proved the gpu in another pc and it work just fine

 

[Ralston18]

Interesting....

When you tested the GPU in another PC did you use the same power connector?

Source of power connector showing the LED's?

This GPU?

https://www.nvidia.com/content/geforce-gtx/GEFORCE_RTX_3060_Ti_USER_GUIDE_v01.pdf

or

https://www.nvidia.com/content/geforce-gtx/GEFORCE_RTX_3060_Ti_USER_GUIDE_v02.pdf

I did not note any references to LEDs.

A couple of searches provided results indicating that the GPU may be Asus.

For example, from this Forum:

https://forums.tomshardware.com/thr...-touching-cable-and-red-light-on-gpu.3850677/

4070 though....

Perhaps someone else will be able comment as applicable.

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In the meantime, if at all possible, verify the details and specs of the GPU.

Take a couple of photographs and post the images here via imgur (www.imgur.com).

 

[artk2219]

Do you have csm or legacy compatibility enabled in bios?

 

[Swoopi26]

Interesting....

When you tested the GPU in another PC did you use the same power connector?

Source of power connector showing the LED's?

This GPU?

https://www.nvidia.com/content/geforce-gtx/GEFORCE_RTX_3060_Ti_USER_GUIDE_v01.pdf

or

https://www.nvidia.com/content/geforce-gtx/GEFORCE_RTX_3060_Ti_USER_GUIDE_v02.pdf

I did not note any references to LEDs.

A couple of searches provided results indicating that the GPU may be Asus.

For example, from this Forum:

https://forums.tomshardware.com/thr...-touching-cable-and-red-light-on-gpu.3850677/

4070 though....

Perhaps someone else will be able comment as applicable.

= = = =

In the meantime, if at all possible, verify the details and specs of the GPU.

Take a couple of photographs and post the images here via imgur (www.imgur.com).

My gpu is specifically an EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti FTW3 Ultra Gaming


https://www.evga.com/products/specs/gpu.aspx?pn=a90a6301-d51f-4e0a-98f0-e618b7888fc1

I tested it on a diffent PC and did not use que same cable or anything, also i dont remember seeing the red light turning on anytime

Im not sure what was the testig PC specs but pretty sure were better than mines.

I will try taking some photoes and cheking the bios.

 

[Ralston18]

Not sure what to suggest.

EVGA:

EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti FTW3 Ultra Gaming

No listing....

Check your GPU - there are a number of ways to do so:

https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/how-to-check-your-graphics-card-gpu-in-windows-10-and-11/

Method #3 (Powershell) is very easy and comprehensive.

Detailed results.

The objective simply being to discover what Windows knows about the GPU and its' configuration.

However, work with whatever Methods you are comfortable with.

 

[Swoopi26]

Do you have csm or legacy compatibility enabled in bios?

I hace CSM support enabled, the things i can change to legacy are Storage boot option control and Other PCI devices, which are currently configured as UEFI, dont realmente know what that means.

https://imgur.com/a/iOIMiVv

View: https://imgur.com/a/iOIMiVv

 

[Swoopi26]

Not sure what to suggest.

EVGA:

EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti FTW3 Ultra Gaming

No listing....

Check your GPU - there are a number of ways to do so:

https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/how-to-check-your-graphics-card-gpu-in-windows-10-and-11/

Method #3 (Powershell) is very easy and comprehensive.

Detailed results.

The objective simply being to discover what Windows knows about the GPU and its' configuration.

However, work with whatever Methods you are comfortable with.

Ok ill try, but because i cant get an image from the gpu i will need another pc, but what guarantee that my pc will recognice the same?

 

[Swoopi26]

Not sure what to suggest.

EVGA:

EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti FTW3 Ultra Gaming

No listing....

Check your GPU - there are a number of ways to do so:

https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/how-to-check-your-graphics-card-gpu-in-windows-10-and-11/

Method #3 (Powershell) is very easy and comprehensive.

Detailed results.

The objective simply being to discover what Windows knows about the GPU and its' configuration.

However, work with whatever Methods you are comfortable with.

Those are the three leds that blink

https://imgur.com/a/h0bZPrS

View: https://imgur.com/a/h0bZPrS

 

[Ralston18]

Late thought: will the system boot via Safe Mode?

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I would not move the GPU to another PC - more needs to be known if at all possible.

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The glare makes it difficult to see the full ribbon cables and PCIe ports being used.

Hopefully someone will recognize and understand what those LEDs are indicating.

Do they just blink once (and you were able to capture that) or do the LED continue to blink?

Is that a cable that came with the GPU?

 

[Swoopi26]

Late thought: will the system boot via Safe Mode?

= = = =

I would not move the GPU to another PC - more needs to be known if at all possible.

= = = =

The glare makes it difficult to see the full ribbon cables and PCIe ports being used.

Hopefully someone will recognize and understand what those LEDs are indicating.

Do they just blink once (and you were able to capture that) or do the LED continue to blink?

Is that a cable that came with the GPU?

Dont really now what you mean vía Safe Mode, how can i do that with the new gpu, i think i did it to remove the old drivers with DDU, so with the old gpu the system can boot via safe mode pretty sure.

If i dont move it to other pc, how can i check if i see nothing on the screen? not even the bios.

They just blink once yes, right before i turn on the pc, then they will never turn on again.

The cable came with the PSU because it is not modular, algo i am using just one cable for the 16 pins, the cable has 8 extra pins so i am using those, i tested each set of 8 pins with the old gpu and it worked fine, it showed image normally

https://imgur.com/a/s8FxCZA

View: https://imgur.com/a/s8FxCZA


It stays like that but it seems to work fine, at least the fans and rgb, but no image

 

[beyondlogic]

Dont really now what you mean vía Safe Mode, how can i do that with the new gpu, i think i did it to remove the old drivers with DDU, so with the old gpu the system can boot via safe mode pretty sure.

If i dont move it to other pc, how can i check if i see nothing on the screen? not even the bios.

They just blink once yes, right before i turn on the pc, then they will never turn on again.

The cable came with the PSU because it is not modular, algo i am using just one cable for the 16 pins, the cable has 8 extra pins so i am using those, i tested each set of 8 pins with the old gpu and it worked fine, it showed image normally

https://imgur.com/a/s8FxCZA

View: https://imgur.com/a/s8FxCZA


It stays like that but it seems to work fine, at least the fans and rgb, but no image

run 2 seperate gpu cables.

each cable provides 150w of power. no more no less.

( yes 75w is provided by the board but the card doesnt use this at all.)

the card needs 225w.

the connectors provide all of the power.

that extra connector on 1 cable is worthless does nothing.

you need 2 seperate gpu cables to the psu to the card.

 

[Swoopi26]

run 2 seperate gpu cables.

each cable provides 150w of power. no more no less.

( yes 75w is provided by the board but the card doesnt use this at all.)

the card needs 225w.

the connectors provide all of the power.

that extra connector on 1 cable is worthless does nothing.

you need 2 seperate gpu cables to the psu to the card.

I'm going to try this and report back on the results.


Just two questions, how do you know that each cable only provides 150w, beacause of the PSU or this is a standard?, also, does the 3060ti comsumes more power in comparison to the rest of the GPUs?

 

[Unolocogringo]

It is industry standard.
The PCIE slot provides 75 watts. 66 watts of 12v and the rest on 3.3v line.
Cables are 75w for 6 pin and 150w for 8pin connectors. But you can not get 300w out of 2 8pin connectors on the same cable. the wires will overheat dropping voltage and amperage.

 

[beyondlogic]

I'm going to try this and report back on the results.


Just two questions, how do you know that each cable only provides 150w, beacause of the PSU or this is a standard?, also, does the 3060ti comsumes more power in comparison to the rest of the GPUs?

It's a standard
8 pin only allows for a total of 150w power.

Cards with connectors will only use the connectors for power and the PCI slot is just signal.

That's why Nvidia went and brought out a worse connector lol. Because to power a 4090 they would have had to add 4 of them.

 

[Swoopi26]

It's a standard
8 pin only allows for a total of 150w power.

Cards with connectors will only use the connectors for power and the PCI slot is just signal.

That's why Nvidia went and brought out a worse connector lol. Because to power a 4090 they would have had to add 4 of them.

I see, im looking for another PSU to do the test, however ive never hear that the cards with connectors will only use the connectors for power, most of the people say that rvrry GPU indeed use the power of the mother board, do uhave an article or something that boards the topic?

 

[Swoopi26]

It is industry standard.
The PCIE slot provides 75 watts. 66 watts of 12v and the rest on 3.3v line.
Cables are 75w for 6 pin and 150w for 8pin connectors. But you can not get 300w out of 2 8pin connectors on the same cable. the wires will overheat dropping voltage and amperage.

i only need 225W for my gpu, but as beyondlogic said it seems like these gpus dont use the power of the motherboard

 

[beyondlogic]

I see, im looking for another PSU to do the test, however ive never hear that the cards with connectors will only use the connectors for power, most of the people say that rvrry GPU indeed use the power of the mother board, do uhave an article or something that boards the topic?

Recommendations by Silverstone it's pretty standard practice.

Your card will probly draw around 265w max but the software in the card won't start unless it detects the right amount of power. It won't pull from the pci slot as it's to prevent damage to PCI slot as max power draw is 75w from slot that's why there's dedicated connectors.

Now if the card was a 165w card they would just have 1 8 pin because even if it over specs loads of wattage left in PCI slot.


https://www.silverstonetek.com/en/tech-talk/wh_pcie-connection


But because your card potentially can go over 225w they went with 2 8 pins instead.

Most board partner cards draw about 50-60 watts more unless reference model.

 

[Swoopi26]

"F" series cpus lack integrated video. You'll get no output without a GPU.

Please list all PC specs.

Solved, i edited the post

 

[Swoopi26]

Recommendations by Silverstone it's pretty standard practice.

Your card will probly draw around 265w max but the software in the card won't start unless it detects the right amount of power. It won't pull from the pci slot as it's to prevent damage to PCI slot as max power draw is 75w from slot that's why there's dedicated connectors.

Now if the card was a 165w card they would just have 1 8 pin because even if it over specs loads of wattage left in PCI slot.


https://www.silverstonetek.com/en/tech-talk/wh_pcie-connection


But because your card potentially can go over 225w they went with 2 8 pins instead.

Most board partner cards draw about 50-60 watts more unless reference model.

Solved, i edited the post

 

[Swoopi26]

It is industry standard.
The PCIE slot provides 75 watts. 66 watts of 12v and the rest on 3.3v line.
Cables are 75w for 6 pin and 150w for 8pin connectors. But you can not get 300w out of 2 8pin connectors on the same cable. the wires will overheat dropping voltage and amperage.

Solved, i edited the post