MY Power Supply Enough?

[Lil___]

I'm getting a 6Gb GTX 1060 GAMING ACX 3.0. I have a 400Watt PSU and currently run a Intel Core i7 4790 and a GTX 770 (Founders Edition). Will my computer fail to run with this setup?

 

[Serenity_3]

Definitely upgrade. Go with this - works great on my current gtx 1060 system. The 520w one will do but get 620 just in case you do a future upgrade.

https://m.newegg.com/products/17-151-096

 

[JackNaylorPE]

From the horse's mouth:

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/10series/geforce-gtx-1060/

Thermal and Power Specs:
94 = Maximum GPU Temperature (in C)
120 W = Graphics Card Power (W)
400 W = Recommended System Power (W)4
6-Pin = Supplementary Power Connectors

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-770/specifications

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Thermal and Power Specs:
98 C = Maximum GPU Temperature (in C)
230 W = Graphics Card Power (W)
600 W = Minimum Recommended System Power (W)
One 8-pin and one 6-pinSupplementary Power Connectors

Now if building a new box, I would go with a 520 watter .... But since you are replacing a 230 watt card w/ a 120 watt card ... I don't think you have anything to worry about power issues

Your old system really should have had a 600 watter ... I'd have gone 650. But if ya didn't have problems when you were 200 watts under the recommended minimum (and Im surprised you didn't) , I can't see how dropping 110 watts of load is going to make things worse.

 

[Rexper]

400 watts on the 12v rail of a good quality PSU is plenty enough for that system. What exact model is that PSU?

 

[elbert]

It would be odd for a PSU to handle a GTX770 and not a 1060. After all a GTX770 requires 2 X 6pin or a 8pin for power while thw 1060 only a single 6 pin. What exactle is that 400W? An Antec earthwatt 380 could handle a 1060. Without more info tho I suggest an upgrade.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING Video Card ($227.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12G 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($61.49 @ OutletPC)
Total: $289.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-09 23:23 EDT-0400

 

[JackNaylorPE]

BTW, if I was getting a new card, it wouldn't be EVGAs. It would be the MSI or Gigabyte that were rated 9.8 here

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/#1060

The EVGA cards use a stock VRM and PCB and the ACX have had BIOS upgrades to overcome the inadequate VRM cooling ... and thermal pad kit fixes (1070 and 1080) . The BIOS upgrade increases fan speeds to eliminate overheating but with that comes more noise. These are the affected cards:

EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB

06G-P4-6163-KR - EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 SC - Primary BIOS (86.06.39.00.62)
06G-P4-6265-KR - EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 SSC DT - Primary BIOS (86.06.39.00.62)
06G-P4-6264-KB - EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 SSC ACX 3.0 - Primary BIOS (86.06.39.00.62)
06G-P4-6267-KR - EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 SSC ACX 3.0 - Primary BIOS (86.06.39.00.62)

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/evga-geforce-gtx-1060-1070-and-1080-bios-update-to-adres-heat-issues.html

 

[Lil___]

From the horse's mouth:

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/10series/geforce-gtx-1060/

Thermal and Power Specs:
94 = Maximum GPU Temperature (in C)
120 W = Graphics Card Power (W)
400 W = Recommended System Power (W)4
6-Pin = Supplementary Power Connectors

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-770/specifications

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Thermal and Power Specs:
98 C = Maximum GPU Temperature (in C)
230 W = Graphics Card Power (W)
600 W = Minimum Recommended System Power (W)
One 8-pin and one 6-pinSupplementary Power Connectors

Now if building a new box, I would go with a 520 watter .... But since you are replacing a 230 watt card w/ a 120 watt card ... I don't think you have anything to worry about power issues

Your old system really should have had a 600 watter ... I'd have gone 650. But if ya didn't have problems when you were 200 watts under the recommended minimum (and Im surprised you didn't) , I can't see how dropping 110 watts of load is going to make things worse.

Ok, my PC can handle a 770 (Which requires an 8-pin and 6-pin), and my PSU is a Dell Power supply, but I'm pretty sure its pretty good quality (replacement is $60). So with all this in mind I will for sure be able to run a 1060?

 

[Lil___]

*Edit it's 460 Watts.

 

[elbert]

The article is 7 months old back when a few cards were catching fire. I havent seen any since EVGA said they were fixing the issues. The EVGA 1060 is about the best priced 1060 6GB and per EVGA fixed thermalpads should be fine.
http://www.pcmag.com/news/349319/evga-patches-graphics-cards-to-stop-them-catching-fire

 

[elbert]

*Edit it's 460 Watts.

What model and name brand? There are a good number of 460w that should handle a 1060.

 

[Lil___]

*Edit it's 460 Watts.

What model and name brand? There are a good number of 460w that should handle a 1060.

Looks like its made by ACBEL ELECTRONIC 460watt psu, I don't really know the company, but as stated before it can run a 770 (Which is 220Watts compared to the 120Watts of the 1060).

 

[JackNaylorPE]

As long as it's not crap, 400w is just fine for the 1060. But the 460 rating, in and of itself, is almost a dead giveaway as to who makes it... everyone else seems to be fixated on x50 and x00 sizes

I bet if you go to pcpartpicker and set the range finder to 460/460, I bet only one name comes up You can proably find a few oddballs no longer in production and some of the mass market types or the fpolks who supply them offering 460s like HP and maybe Dell. No doubt there's a few out there from brands few ever heard of, but not on reputable sites. If it is an off brand, no I wouldn't put it in a new PC, but the question here isn't that. If it didn't blow up anything at 230 watts, it's not gonna blow up at 120

Likely almost as true with the 520 / 620 ... they gonna be almost exclusively Seasonic or Antecs built by Seasonic and maybe other brands who are no longer stocked, To many, that 460 that Seasonic made for them is likely sold as a 500 watter ... the 520/620s that Seasonic OEMS could pass testing as 550s and 650s. The XFX Core Edition 550 for example, was built on the same platform (GB Bronze) as the Seasonic 520.

 

[Rexper]

Are you able to find the model of the unit?

 

[JackNaylorPE]

Ahhh... I see he posted it it 2 posts up

ACBEL ELECTRONIC

The database lists no 460 watter made by them ... Acbel Polytech, Only review I cud find

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story5&reid=210

 

[Lil___]

As long as it's not crap, 400w is just fine for the 1060. But the 460 rating, in and of itself, is almost a dead giveaway as to who makes it... everyone else seems to be fixated on x50 and x00 sizes

I bet if you go to pcpartpicker and set the range finder to 460/460, I bet only one name comes up You can proably find a few oddballs no longer in production and some of the mass market types or the fpolks who supply them offering 460s like HP and maybe Dell. No doubt there's a few out there from brands few ever heard of, but not on reputable sites. If it is an off brand, no I wouldn't put it in a new PC, but the question here isn't that. If it didn't blow up anything at 230 watts, it's not gonna blow up at 120

Likely almost as true with the 520 / 620 ... they gonna be almost exclusively Seasonic or Antecs built by Seasonic and maybe other brands who are no longer stocked, To many, that 460 that Seasonic made for them is likely sold as a 500 watter ... the 520/620s that Seasonic OEMS could pass testing as 550s and 650s. The XFX Core Edition 550 for example, was built on the same platform (GB Bronze) as the Seasonic 520.

Well, I mean you said it before, I have a GTX 770 (Which requires 260Watts, and a 6 & 8pin connecter like you said) and I'm switching to a card that only requires one pin connecter and 120Watts. With all this in mind, wouldn't I be able to handle the card?

 

[JackNaylorPE]

Of course... what i was trying to get across is that when buying a PSU, you don't want to recommend a lemon or an unknown so things like model number are relevant.

But if you have a PSU and a card, there are on;t two relevant considerations:

1. If the card draws more power than you are at risk, and we can making assumptions based upon how much more relative to the headroom that is left... her 120 => 230 would be extremely iffy but 230 => 120 is the proverbial no brainer. Kinda like asking if your car pool size drops from 4 folks to 2, do you need to buy a bigger car.

2. If you want to overclock. Your 230 watt card and CPU may have been fine at 100% load of over it, but to have a stable OC, voltage variations and noise can make attempting to OC untenable even if at 80% load

 

[Lil___]

Of course... what i was trying to get across is that when buying a PSU, you don't want to recommend a lemon or an unknown so things like model number are relevant.

But if you have a PSU and a card, there are on;t two relevant considerations:

1. If the card draws more power than you are at risk, and we can making assumptions based upon how much more relative to the headroom that is left... her 120 => 230 would be extremely iffy but 230 => 120 is the proverbial no brainer. Kinda like asking if your car pool size drops from 4 folks to 2, do you need to buy a bigger car.

2. If you want to overclock. Your 230 watt card and CPU may have been fine at 100% load of over it, but to have a stable OC, voltage variations and noise can make attempting to OC untenable even if at 80% load

Ok but in short I will be able to run the card without noticeable problems or no problems at all right? I don't want to buy a Graphics card and return it the next day. :/