Myst IV Revelation Questions

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Help please. I haven't scanned the other messages in this group --
trying to avoid spoilers -- but there are a few things I'd like to ask.
Please provide only yes or no answers and don't add any hints. I hope
you understand. Thanks.

1) I'm in the jungle near the vertical ship (never can keep the names of
the "ages" straight). Yes or no -- can I solve all the puzzles in this
age without information from other ages?

2) Must I solve the wooden gate horizontal slider/hammer puzzle *prior*
to solving the puzzle with the five vertical slider thingies that reveal
the totem pole symbols? I'm guessing I must, but I'd like to know. So,
must I solve the wooden gate puzzle first? Yes or no, please.

3) I believe the solution to the puzzle to open the wooden gate is
related to binary numbers. Am I right? Yes or no, please.

4) And I won't get into details on where I stand with the vertical
slider thingy puzzle. But I am convinced that the middle slider should
show the symbol from the monkeys' totem pole. Am I right? Yes or no
only, please.

Please, no hints. Just four simple yes or no answers. Many thanks for
understanding.

Bill Anderson

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"Bill Anderson" <billanderson601@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Help please. I haven't scanned the other messages in this group --
> trying to avoid spoilers -- but there are a few things I'd like to ask.
> Please provide only yes or no answers and don't add any hints. I hope
> you understand. Thanks.
>
> 1) I'm in the jungle near the vertical ship (never can keep the names of
> the "ages" straight). Yes or no -- can I solve all the puzzles in this
> age without information from other ages?
>
> 2) Must I solve the wooden gate horizontal slider/hammer puzzle *prior*
> to solving the puzzle with the five vertical slider thingies that reveal
> the totem pole symbols? I'm guessing I must, but I'd like to know. So,
> must I solve the wooden gate puzzle first? Yes or no, please.
>
> 3) I believe the solution to the puzzle to open the wooden gate is
> related to binary numbers. Am I right? Yes or no, please.
>
> 4) And I won't get into details on where I stand with the vertical
> slider thingy puzzle. But I am convinced that the middle slider should
> show the symbol from the monkeys' totem pole. Am I right? Yes or no
> only, please.
>
1) Yes
2) No
3) No
4) Yes

 

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Nick wrote:
> "Bill Anderson" <billanderson601@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:j6idnfFMQMwl9DTcRVn-qA@rcn.net...
>
>>Help please. I haven't scanned the other messages in this group --
>>trying to avoid spoilers -- but there are a few things I'd like to ask.
>> Please provide only yes or no answers and don't add any hints. I hope
>>you understand. Thanks.
>>
>>1) I'm in the jungle near the vertical ship (never can keep the names of
>>the "ages" straight). Yes or no -- can I solve all the puzzles in this
>>age without information from other ages?
>>
>>2) Must I solve the wooden gate horizontal slider/hammer puzzle *prior*
>>to solving the puzzle with the five vertical slider thingies that reveal
>>the totem pole symbols? I'm guessing I must, but I'd like to know. So,
>>must I solve the wooden gate puzzle first? Yes or no, please.
>>
>>3) I believe the solution to the puzzle to open the wooden gate is
>>related to binary numbers. Am I right? Yes or no, please.
>>
>>4) And I won't get into details on where I stand with the vertical
>>slider thingy puzzle. But I am convinced that the middle slider should
>>show the symbol from the monkeys' totem pole. Am I right? Yes or no
>>only, please.
>>
>
> 1) Yes
> 2) No
> 3) No
> 4) Yes
>
>
Thank you very much!

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Nick wrote:
> "Bill Anderson" <billanderson601@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:j6idnfFMQMwl9DTcRVn-qA@rcn.net...
>
>>Help please. I haven't scanned the other messages in this group --
>>trying to avoid spoilers -- but there are a few things I'd like to ask.
>> Please provide only yes or no answers and don't add any hints. I hope
>>you understand. Thanks.
>>
>>1) I'm in the jungle near the vertical ship (never can keep the names of
>>the "ages" straight). Yes or no -- can I solve all the puzzles in this
>>age without information from other ages?
>>
>>2) Must I solve the wooden gate horizontal slider/hammer puzzle *prior*
>>to solving the puzzle with the five vertical slider thingies that reveal
>>the totem pole symbols? I'm guessing I must, but I'd like to know. So,
>>must I solve the wooden gate puzzle first? Yes or no, please.
>>
>>3) I believe the solution to the puzzle to open the wooden gate is
>>related to binary numbers. Am I right? Yes or no, please.
>>
>>4) And I won't get into details on where I stand with the vertical
>>slider thingy puzzle. But I am convinced that the middle slider should
>>show the symbol from the monkeys' totem pole. Am I right? Yes or no
>>only, please.
>>
>
> 1) Yes
> 2) No
> 3) No
> 4) Yes
>
>

OK, Nick, I've solved the vertical slider thingy puzzle, but only
because I was confident that the center slider should be the symbol from
the monkey totem pole. I did the rest by trial and error, and by
reasoning that there would be no duplicate symbols. Luckily the symbol
that could not be seen (#4) was the first symbol above the group I was
dealing with -- the hourglass. That made my trial-and-error efforts
much easier.

But I don't understand the logic. Please explain the logic to me if you
can.

Obviously the key to solving the puzzle was supposed to be the pyramid
of symbols found on the chart in the hut on the pole by the monkey totem
pole.

Key #1 on that pyramid chart looks like a gorilla's hand. The solution
for #1 on the vertical slider thingy puzzle was the square box symbol
from the totem pole near the vertical ship. How does a gorilla's hand
correspond to that square? The animal on the square symbol totem pole
looks like a sabre-tooth tiger, not a gorilla. And there is no gorilla
hand symbol on the chart in the vertical ship. And there is no gorilla
hand near the totem pole with the square box symbol -- just a dead
monster skeleton. And if the monster model on the shelf in the vertical
ship is supposed to represent the dead monster skeleton, I don't see the
resemblance. The monster model on the shelf has only three fingers per
hand. That monster could not make a gorilla print. How can the square
be #1 -- a gorilla hand print? I guess this is the most significant
question I'm asking.

Key #2 on that chart looks like (maybe, I guess) the hoofprint of the
animal that would have eaten me if he hadn't been overcome by the
poisonous plant. And yes, that animal was overcome in the general
vicinity of the totem pole that has the symbol that looks like a
radiation warning -- the totem pole behind the big boulder. So maybe
that one is logical. Is that the connection? The animal with the
matching hoofprint was somewhat near that totem pole?

Key #3 is a three fingered hand which the pyramid chart says is the
monkey totem pole symbol, and that is perfectly obvious. The pyramid
chart shows #3 to be a hand with three fingers and the monkey touching
me when I landed in the jungle had three fingers. Three fingers on the
chart equals a monkey totem pole symbol. This one was easy.

Key #4 apparently is a random symbol. It's covered up in the puzzle.
So #4 is supposed to be guesswork. Right?

Key #5 is pretty obviously the big cloven hoof symbol from the chart,
which corresponds nicely to the horizontal S symbol on the totem pole
that the mayflies are attracted to. There are big cloven-hoof animals
all around that one, and even some obviously-important cloven-hoofprints
in the mud in the vicinity, so it seemed likely that the horizontal S
symbol equaled the thick cloven-hoof symbol on the chart, which was #5.

So please help me understand if you can. I solved the puzzle, but I
don't fully understand what I did. How do the symbols on the totem
poles correspond to the symbols on the pyramid chart? And especially,
what makes the square symbol #1?

Thanks!
--
Bill Anderson

I am the Mighty Favog

 

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"Bill Anderson" <billanderson601@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Nick wrote:
> > "Bill Anderson" <billanderson601@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:j6idnfFMQMwl9DTcRVn-qA@rcn.net...
> >
> >>Help please. I haven't scanned the other messages in this group --
> >>trying to avoid spoilers -- but there are a few things I'd like to ask.
> >> Please provide only yes or no answers and don't add any hints. I hope
> >>you understand. Thanks.
> >>
> >>1) I'm in the jungle near the vertical ship (never can keep the names of
> >>the "ages" straight). Yes or no -- can I solve all the puzzles in this
> >>age without information from other ages?
> >>
> >>2) Must I solve the wooden gate horizontal slider/hammer puzzle *prior*
> >>to solving the puzzle with the five vertical slider thingies that reveal
> >>the totem pole symbols? I'm guessing I must, but I'd like to know. So,
> >>must I solve the wooden gate puzzle first? Yes or no, please.
> >>
> >>3) I believe the solution to the puzzle to open the wooden gate is
> >>related to binary numbers. Am I right? Yes or no, please.
> >>
> >>4) And I won't get into details on where I stand with the vertical
> >>slider thingy puzzle. But I am convinced that the middle slider should
> >>show the symbol from the monkeys' totem pole. Am I right? Yes or no
> >>only, please.
> >>
> >
> > 1) Yes
> > 2) No
> > 3) No
> > 4) Yes
> >
> >
>
> OK, Nick, I've solved the vertical slider thingy puzzle, but only
> because I was confident that the center slider should be the symbol from
> the monkey totem pole. I did the rest by trial and error, and by
> reasoning that there would be no duplicate symbols. Luckily the symbol
> that could not be seen (#4) was the first symbol above the group I was
> dealing with -- the hourglass. That made my trial-and-error efforts
> much easier.
>
> But I don't understand the logic. Please explain the logic to me if you
> can.
>
> Obviously the key to solving the puzzle was supposed to be the pyramid
> of symbols found on the chart in the hut on the pole by the monkey totem
> pole.
>
> Key #1 on that pyramid chart looks like a gorilla's hand. The solution
> for #1 on the vertical slider thingy puzzle was the square box symbol
> from the totem pole near the vertical ship. How does a gorilla's hand
> correspond to that square? The animal on the square symbol totem pole
> looks like a sabre-tooth tiger, not a gorilla. And there is no gorilla
> hand symbol on the chart in the vertical ship. And there is no gorilla
> hand near the totem pole with the square box symbol -- just a dead
> monster skeleton. And if the monster model on the shelf in the vertical
> ship is supposed to represent the dead monster skeleton, I don't see the
> resemblance. The monster model on the shelf has only three fingers per
> hand. That monster could not make a gorilla print. How can the square
> be #1 -- a gorilla hand print? I guess this is the most significant
> question I'm asking.
>
> Key #2 on that chart looks like (maybe, I guess) the hoofprint of the
> animal that would have eaten me if he hadn't been overcome by the
> poisonous plant. And yes, that animal was overcome in the general
> vicinity of the totem pole that has the symbol that looks like a
> radiation warning -- the totem pole behind the big boulder. So maybe
> that one is logical. Is that the connection? The animal with the
> matching hoofprint was somewhat near that totem pole?
>
> Key #3 is a three fingered hand which the pyramid chart says is the
> monkey totem pole symbol, and that is perfectly obvious. The pyramid
> chart shows #3 to be a hand with three fingers and the monkey touching
> me when I landed in the jungle had three fingers. Three fingers on the
> chart equals a monkey totem pole symbol. This one was easy.
>
> Key #4 apparently is a random symbol. It's covered up in the puzzle.
> So #4 is supposed to be guesswork. Right?
>
> Key #5 is pretty obviously the big cloven hoof symbol from the chart,
> which corresponds nicely to the horizontal S symbol on the totem pole
> that the mayflies are attracted to. There are big cloven-hoof animals
> all around that one, and even some obviously-important cloven-hoofprints
> in the mud in the vicinity, so it seemed likely that the horizontal S
> symbol equaled the thick cloven-hoof symbol on the chart, which was #5.
>
> So please help me understand if you can. I solved the puzzle, but I
> don't fully understand what I did. How do the symbols on the totem
> poles correspond to the symbols on the pyramid chart? And especially,
> what makes the square symbol #1?
>
Key #1 is not a gorilla, it is the claw of the giant sea monster by the
wreck and the square symbol.
Your reasoning is correct - you use the particular print found in the
vicinity of each totem.
Key #4 is not random - it sounds like you haven't found one of the totems.
Since all the keys are marked in the same way, it's possible to set #4 by
comparing its position with one of the adjacent ones.

Nick.

 

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"Nick" <no_bother@all> wrote in message
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>
> "Bill Anderson" <billanderson601@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > So please help me understand if you can. I solved the puzzle, but I
> > don't fully understand what I did. How do the symbols on the totem
> > poles correspond to the symbols on the pyramid chart? And especially,
> > what makes the square symbol #1?
> >
> Key #1 is not a gorilla, it is the claw of the giant sea monster by the
> wreck and the square symbol.
> Your reasoning is correct - you use the particular print found in the
> vicinity of each totem.
> Key #4 is not random - it sounds like you haven't found one of the totems.
> Since all the keys are marked in the same way, it's possible to set #4 by
> comparing its position with one of the adjacent ones.
>

OK, I suppose I should have examined the wall paintings or maybe the ship's
sail more closely. Maybe that's where I could have learned that the monster
by the totem with the square symbol has a five-clawed hand.

But yes, you must be right, I have clearly missed one of the totem poles. I
knew I must need one more and I assumed it was behind the wooden gate, but
you said I didn't need to open the gate to solve the vertical slider thingy
puzzle. So that means I have missed a path somewhere? Holy cow, I thought
I"d clicked everywhere in that jungle.

So let's see -- where could I have missed a path? There's a maze of wires
or something behind the hut with the linking book, but I haven't been able
to do anything there. And there's a path upward from the linking book hut
that yields a nice view, but that path has always seemed a dead end to me.
So where in the world is that other totem pole, I wonder? Well...now that
I'm past the slider thingy I've found a faded drawing that shows the totem
poles. Maybe I can see a clue there and work backwards. I'll have no time
to work on it until late tomorrow night, if then, so that'll give me some
time to think. There are some suspiciously long stretches on my map --
stretches with no branching paths. I'll try searching there.

I like this game.

Bill Anderson

I am the Mighty Favog

 

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"Bill Anderson" <billanderson601@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Nick" <no_bother@all> wrote in message
> news:_KSdnaMaJa8GezfcRVnyiw@pipex.net...
> >
> > "Bill Anderson" <billanderson601@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > So please help me understand if you can. I solved the puzzle, but I
> > > don't fully understand what I did. How do the symbols on the totem
> > > poles correspond to the symbols on the pyramid chart? And especially,
> > > what makes the square symbol #1?
> > >
> > Key #1 is not a gorilla, it is the claw of the giant sea monster by the
> > wreck and the square symbol.
> > Your reasoning is correct - you use the particular print found in the
> > vicinity of each totem.
> > Key #4 is not random - it sounds like you haven't found one of the
totems.
> > Since all the keys are marked in the same way, it's possible to set #4
by
> > comparing its position with one of the adjacent ones.
> >
>
> OK, I suppose I should have examined the wall paintings or maybe the
ship's
> sail more closely. Maybe that's where I could have learned that the
monster
> by the totem with the square symbol has a five-clawed hand.
>
> But yes, you must be right, I have clearly missed one of the totem poles.
I
> knew I must need one more and I assumed it was behind the wooden gate, but
> you said I didn't need to open the gate to solve the vertical slider
thingy
> puzzle. So that means I have missed a path somewhere? Holy cow, I
thought
> I"d clicked everywhere in that jungle.

I did have a problem trying to answer your original question #2 because you
wanted a Yes/No answer. I think you've proved my answer correct because
you've managed to lower the bridge without opening the wooden gate. However,
to understand the solution fully, solve the gate puzzle.
There are other puzzles in the game which can be solved by trial and error.
In particular there is one in Serenia which if solved by T&E leaves out
quite a lot of the story. It's better to take the game slowly and enjoy it.

Nick.

 

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Nick wrote:
> "Bill Anderson" <billanderson601@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:310mtuF352uvaU1@uni-berlin.de...
>
>>"Nick" <no_bother@all> wrote in message
>>news:_KSdnaMaJa8GezfcRVnyiw@pipex.net...
>>
>>>"Bill Anderson" <billanderson601@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>>>So please help me understand if you can. I solved the puzzle, but I
>>>>don't fully understand what I did. How do the symbols on the totem
>>>>poles correspond to the symbols on the pyramid chart? And especially,
>>>>what makes the square symbol #1?
>>>>
>>>
>>>Key #1 is not a gorilla, it is the claw of the giant sea monster by the
>>>wreck and the square symbol.
>>>Your reasoning is correct - you use the particular print found in the
>>>vicinity of each totem.
>>>Key #4 is not random - it sounds like you haven't found one of the
>
> totems.
>
>>>Since all the keys are marked in the same way, it's possible to set #4
>
> by
>
>>>comparing its position with one of the adjacent ones.
>>>
>>
>>OK, I suppose I should have examined the wall paintings or maybe the
>
> ship's
>
>>sail more closely. Maybe that's where I could have learned that the
>
> monster
>
>>by the totem with the square symbol has a five-clawed hand.
>>
>>But yes, you must be right, I have clearly missed one of the totem poles.
>
> I
>
>>knew I must need one more and I assumed it was behind the wooden gate, but
>>you said I didn't need to open the gate to solve the vertical slider
>
> thingy
>
>>puzzle. So that means I have missed a path somewhere? Holy cow, I
>
> thought
>
>>I"d clicked everywhere in that jungle.
>
>
> I did have a problem trying to answer your original question #2 because you
> wanted a Yes/No answer. I think you've proved my answer correct because
> you've managed to lower the bridge without opening the wooden gate. However,
> to understand the solution fully, solve the gate puzzle.

Oh, OK. But it sure looks like some kind of binary counting puzzle to
me. The top number is 4. The bottom number is 8. And something goes
between. But you say it's something else. So maybe I'd better try to
figure out the logic of the way the thing behaves -- why it is that with
a hammer in one position I can slide 1 space, another position 2 spaces,
etc. Or maybe there's a matching pattern somewhere in the game. If
there is, I haven't spotted it yet. But like I said, I'll be on the
road til tomorrow night. I'll have time to think about it. Thanks for
the comments and thanks for not spoiling anything.

Bill Anderson

I am the Mighty Favog

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I am the Mighty Favog

 

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Nick wrote:
> "Bill Anderson" <billanderson601@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:310mtuF352uvaU1@uni-berlin.de...
>
>>"Nick" <no_bother@all> wrote in message
>>news:_KSdnaMaJa8GezfcRVnyiw@pipex.net...
>>
>>>"Bill Anderson" <billanderson601@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>>>So please help me understand if you can. I solved the puzzle, but I
>>>>don't fully understand what I did. How do the symbols on the totem
>>>>poles correspond to the symbols on the pyramid chart? And especially,
>>>>what makes the square symbol #1?
>>>>
>>>
>>>Key #1 is not a gorilla, it is the claw of the giant sea monster by the
>>>wreck and the square symbol.

Before I head for the airport I've checked the wall paintings and the
ship's sail drawing and the skeleton itself -- nowhere have I found an
indication that that monster has five claws on a hand. I see three on
the wall paintings, but not five. I mean I know know for certain that
the totem pole symbol near the skeleton is symbol #1, because it worked.
But I still do not see a connection. Do you? And if so, where is
evidence that the monster has five claws on a hand?

--
Bill Anderson

I am the Mighty Favog

 

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"Bill Anderson" <billanderson601@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Before I head for the airport I've checked the wall paintings and the
> ship's sail drawing and the skeleton itself -- nowhere have I found an
> indication that that monster has five claws on a hand. I see three on the
> wall paintings, but not five. I mean I know know for certain that the
> totem pole symbol near the skeleton is symbol #1, because it worked. But I
> still do not see a connection. Do you? And if so, where is evidence that
> the monster has five claws on a hand?

There is a paper in the ship that links animal footprints to what they eat
(or something like that), iirc. That's how you figure out which animal has
which footprints.

--
Unforgiven

 

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"Bill Anderson" <billanderson601@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Nick wrote:
> > "Bill Anderson" <billanderson601@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:310mtuF352uvaU1@uni-berlin.de...
> >
> >>"Nick" <no_bother@all> wrote in message
> >>news:_KSdnaMaJa8GezfcRVnyiw@pipex.net...
> >>
> >>>"Bill Anderson" <billanderson601@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>>
> >>>>So please help me understand if you can. I solved the puzzle, but I
> >>>>don't fully understand what I did. How do the symbols on the totem
> >>>>poles correspond to the symbols on the pyramid chart? And especially,
> >>>>what makes the square symbol #1?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>Key #1 is not a gorilla, it is the claw of the giant sea monster by the
> >>>wreck and the square symbol.
> >>>Your reasoning is correct - you use the particular print found in the
> >>>vicinity of each totem.
> >>>Key #4 is not random - it sounds like you haven't found one of the
> >
> > totems.
> >
> >>>Since all the keys are marked in the same way, it's possible to set #4
> >
> > by
> >
> >>>comparing its position with one of the adjacent ones.
> >>>
> >>
> >>OK, I suppose I should have examined the wall paintings or maybe the
> >
> > ship's
> >
> >>sail more closely. Maybe that's where I could have learned that the
> >
> > monster
> >
> >>by the totem with the square symbol has a five-clawed hand.
> >>
> >>But yes, you must be right, I have clearly missed one of the totem
poles.
> >
> > I
> >
> >>knew I must need one more and I assumed it was behind the wooden gate,
but
> >>you said I didn't need to open the gate to solve the vertical slider
> >
> > thingy
> >
> >>puzzle. So that means I have missed a path somewhere? Holy cow, I
> >
> > thought
> >
> >>I"d clicked everywhere in that jungle.
> >
> >
> > I did have a problem trying to answer your original question #2 because
you
> > wanted a Yes/No answer. I think you've proved my answer correct because
> > you've managed to lower the bridge without opening the wooden gate.
However,
> > to understand the solution fully, solve the gate puzzle.
>
> Oh, OK. But it sure looks like some kind of binary counting puzzle to
> me. The top number is 4. The bottom number is 8. And something goes
> between. But you say it's something else. So maybe I'd better try to
> figure out the logic of the way the thing behaves -- why it is that with
> a hammer in one position I can slide 1 space, another position 2 spaces,
> etc. Or maybe there's a matching pattern somewhere in the game. If
> there is, I haven't spotted it yet. But like I said, I'll be on the
> road til tomorrow night. I'll have time to think about it. Thanks for
> the comments and thanks for not spoiling anything.
>
Don't look too deeply into this puzzle - once you've solved it you'll
realise that it's quite trivial.

Nick.

 

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Unforgiven wrote:
> "Bill Anderson" <billanderson601@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:0ZSdnWFTl4mX6zbcRVn-pw@rcn.net...
>
>>Before I head for the airport I've checked the wall paintings and the
>>ship's sail drawing and the skeleton itself -- nowhere have I found an
>>indication that that monster has five claws on a hand. I see three on the
>>wall paintings, but not five. I mean I know know for certain that the
>>totem pole symbol near the skeleton is symbol #1, because it worked. But I
>>still do not see a connection. Do you? And if so, where is evidence that
>>the monster has five claws on a hand?
>
>
> There is a paper in the ship that links animal footprints to what they eat
> (or something like that), iirc. That's how you figure out which animal has
> which footprints.
>

Well I'm sure the parchment on the ship is supposed to provide some sort
of clue, but if it's describing food, then it looks like it's saying the
monkeys eat cannonballs. I kept trying to make it fit with the totem
pole clues but I was never successful.

--
Bill Anderson

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Nick wrote:
> "Bill Anderson" <billanderson601@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:zOydnSgsC_g87DbcRVn-ug@rcn.net...
>
>>Nick wrote:
>>
>>>"Bill Anderson" <billanderson601@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:310mtuF352uvaU1@uni-berlin.de...
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Nick" <no_bother@all> wrote in message
>>>>news:_KSdnaMaJa8GezfcRVnyiw@pipex.net...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"Bill Anderson" <billanderson601@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>So please help me understand if you can. I solved the puzzle, but I
>>>>>>don't fully understand what I did. How do the symbols on the totem
>>>>>>poles correspond to the symbols on the pyramid chart? And especially,
>>>>>>what makes the square symbol #1?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Key #1 is not a gorilla, it is the claw of the giant sea monster by the
>>>>>wreck and the square symbol.
>>>>>Your reasoning is correct - you use the particular print found in the
>>>>>vicinity of each totem.
>>>>>Key #4 is not random - it sounds like you haven't found one of the
>>>
>>>totems.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Since all the keys are marked in the same way, it's possible to set #4
>>>
>>>by
>>>
>>>
>>>>>comparing its position with one of the adjacent ones.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>OK, I suppose I should have examined the wall paintings or maybe the
>>>
>>>ship's
>>>
>>>
>>>>sail more closely. Maybe that's where I could have learned that the
>>>
>>>monster
>>>
>>>
>>>>by the totem with the square symbol has a five-clawed hand.
>>>>
>>>>But yes, you must be right, I have clearly missed one of the totem
>
> poles.
>
>>>I
>>>
>>>
>>>>knew I must need one more and I assumed it was behind the wooden gate,
>
> but
>
>>>>you said I didn't need to open the gate to solve the vertical slider
>>>
>>>thingy
>>>
>>>
>>>>puzzle. So that means I have missed a path somewhere? Holy cow, I
>>>
>>>thought
>>>
>>>
>>>>I"d clicked everywhere in that jungle.
>>>
>>>
>>>I did have a problem trying to answer your original question #2 because
>
> you
>
>>>wanted a Yes/No answer. I think you've proved my answer correct because
>>>you've managed to lower the bridge without opening the wooden gate.
>
> However,
>
>>>to understand the solution fully, solve the gate puzzle.
>>
>>Oh, OK. But it sure looks like some kind of binary counting puzzle to
>>me. The top number is 4. The bottom number is 8. And something goes
>>between. But you say it's something else. So maybe I'd better try to
>>figure out the logic of the way the thing behaves -- why it is that with
>>a hammer in one position I can slide 1 space, another position 2 spaces,
>>etc. Or maybe there's a matching pattern somewhere in the game. If
>>there is, I haven't spotted it yet. But like I said, I'll be on the
>>road til tomorrow night. I'll have time to think about it. Thanks for
>>the comments and thanks for not spoiling anything.
>>
>
> Don't look too deeply into this puzzle - once you've solved it you'll
> realise that it's quite trivial.
>

Yeah, OK, it's solved. When I stopped looking for clues and stopped
trying to reason it out and just started trying this pattern and that
pattern and -- hey, how about this pattern -- it worked. Hammers on the
gold spikes but not enclosed by a slider. OK. You're right, it's
trivial. I was looking for more. Oh well, on with the game. Thanks!
And I suspect you'll be seeing a lot of me for a while.

--
Bill Anderson

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"Bill Anderson" <billanderson601@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Nick wrote:
> > "Bill Anderson" <billanderson601@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:310mtuF352uvaU1@uni-berlin.de...
> >
> >>"Nick" <no_bother@all> wrote in message
> >>news:_KSdnaMaJa8GezfcRVnyiw@pipex.net...
> >>
> >>>"Bill Anderson" <billanderson601@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>>
> >>>>So please help me understand if you can. I solved the puzzle, but I
> >>>>don't fully understand what I did. How do the symbols on the totem
> >>>>poles correspond to the symbols on the pyramid chart? And especially,
> >>>>what makes the square symbol #1?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>Key #1 is not a gorilla, it is the claw of the giant sea monster by the
> >>>wreck and the square symbol.
>
> Before I head for the airport I've checked the wall paintings and the
> ship's sail drawing and the skeleton itself -- nowhere have I found an
> indication that that monster has five claws on a hand. I see three on
> the wall paintings, but not five. I mean I know know for certain that
> the totem pole symbol near the skeleton is symbol #1, because it worked.
> But I still do not see a connection. Do you? And if so, where is
> evidence that the monster has five claws on a hand?
>
> --
I managed to convince myself that one of the wall paintings showed five
claws - but probably because that's what I wanted to see.
--
Nick.