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Checked the FAQ's and the Online rules and Im still not sure.

1. When you play an action card you announce the action when the card
is played. But do you play the card face up - or face down while
pred/prey etc decide whether to block or not to block?

2. Order of combat rules state that dodges and combat ends strikes are
resolved first. How does this relate to Quietus strikes that include
non-preventable damage - do those strikes still take effect against a
dodge strike card played in opposition to them or can you not damage
what isn't there?

Either an answer or a link to an FAQ entry would be nice thanks.

(n00bness - its a lifestyle choice).
 
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Paulmnz wrote:

> 1. When you play an action card you announce the action when the card
> is played. But do you play the card face up - or face down while
> pred/prey etc decide whether to block or not to block?

Action cards are played face up. This includes when you equip--the action is
"Hesina is equipping with a .44 Magnum. Anyone want to block?" or "Violet is
calling a Kine Resources Contested. Anyone want to block?"

> 2. Order of combat rules state that dodges and combat ends strikes are
> resolved first. How does this relate to Quietus strikes that include
> non-preventable damage - do those strikes still take effect against a
> dodge strike card played in opposition to them or can you not damage
> what isn't there?

Dodges and Strike: Combat Ends (S:CE) go first to indicate that they beat
First Strike (i.e. strikes made with First Strike still are foiled by a
Dodge or a S:CE). Dodge and S:CE, however, are not damage prevention. Damage
prevention comes from, mostly, Fortitude cards (although other sources of
damage prevention exist, like Flak Jacket, Leather Jacket, Stunt Cycle, and
some Chimerstry cards) that say "Prevent X damage". When you Dodge a strike,
it doesn't effect you (unless the strike says "can't be dodged", which some
do) at all. Damage prevention is completely different, and happens during
the "resolve damage" step of the strike resolution phase. So if you dodge a
strike, you don't need to prevent the damage, as you don't get hit by the
strike.


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> 1. When you play an action card you announce the action when the card
> is played. But do you play the card face up - or face down while
> pred/prey etc decide whether to block or not to block?

Face up.

"Greta Kircher wants to play Enchant Kindred at superior to this (points
at card in uncontrolled region. Any blocks?"

> 2. Order of combat rules state that dodges and combat ends strikes are
> resolved first. How does this relate to Quietus strikes that include
> non-preventable damage - do those strikes still take effect against a
> dodge strike card played in opposition to them or can you not damage
> what isn't there?

Dodge does just what it says it does. It dodges the strike and whatever
the strike was, will have no effect. Dodge also beats first strike.
The same goes for Strike: combat ends.

Damage prevention is only applicable when there's actually damage to
prevent after the strike resolution phase.

Both questions are covered fairly thorough in the rulebook as well as
the online rulebook on the White Wolf site.
 
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On 24 Mar 2005 13:50:31 -0800, "Paulmnz"
<paul_mannering@westpac.co.nz> scrawled:

>Checked the FAQ's and the Online rules and Im still not sure.
>
>1. When you play an action card you announce the action when the card
>is played. But do you play the card face up - or face down while
>pred/prey etc decide whether to block or not to block?

the Black Hand physcial paper rulebook I happened to have on hand, and
so i found this reference for you to go with other people's answers:

page 10:

1.6.1. General
1. Playing Cards.
....
A card is played by placing it face up in the playing area ...



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