News NATO believes Russia poses a threat to the West’s internet and GPS services

[Admin]

With tensions growing between Russia and the West, officials say the internet —something we all take for granted—is under serious threat.

NATO believes Russia poses a threat to the West’s internet and GPS services : Read more

 

[bit_user]

The organization is also establishing a system to automatically warn of attempted interference with oceanic fiber optic cables and reroute communications via satellite.

Good luck with that. Russia has reportedly deployed in-orbit anti-satellite weapons.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cq55ww5j7e2o
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[USAFRet]

Good luck with that. Russia has reportedly deployed in-orbit anti-satellite weapons.

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https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cq55ww5j7e2o​

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And the US has demonstrated capability to target a satellite in LEO from a surface ship or an F-15.

Even though they have their own, Russia depends on GPS just as much as everyone else.

 

[Notton]

We're already on the verge of Kessler syndrome from private companies launching a bunch of smaller satellites willy-nilly.
We don't fully understand the effects of aluminum particles in the atmosphere when old ones are destroyed by burning it in re-entry.

 

[helper800]

We're already on the verge of Kessler syndrome from private companies launching a bunch of smaller satellites willy-nilly.
We don't fully understand the effects of aluminum particles in the atmosphere when old ones are destroyed by burning it in re-entry.

Here is some actual information about Kessler syndrome for people to read.

 

[Notton]

the link for aluminum oxide particles thought to behave as a catalyst in ozone layer depletion
https://phys.org/news/2024-06-satellite-megaconstellations-jeopardize-recovery-ozone.html

 

[bit_user]

Here is some actual information about Kessler syndrome for people to read.

I wonder how much of the problem is due to satellites in a retrograde orbit. Satellites in a polar or high-inclination prograde orbit are probably almost as bad, but if you could at least eliminate retrograde orbits, then you wouldn't have head-on collisions. I gather retrograde orbits aren't that common, primarily for economic reasons (i.e. it requires more fuel to counter the Earth's rotation).

 

[Samuel White]

Remember when NATO was in Western Germany only and said they would not progress past that toward Russia with the 91 treaty if Russia got rid of the Soviet Union? Yeah those were good times.

 

[edzieba]

I wonder how much of the problem is due to satellites in a retrograde orbit. Satellites in a polar or high-inclination prograde orbit are probably almost as bad, but if you could at least eliminate retrograde orbits, then you wouldn't have head-on collisions. I gather retrograde orbits aren't that common, primarily for economic reasons (i.e. it requires more fuel to counter the Earth's rotation).

Opposing-orbit object collisions would, be a BEST case scenario: the resulting debris would have an overall lower velocity and re-entry very rapidly.

In reality, all collisions this far (deliberate or accidental) have been glancing (similar orbit different inclination, or orbit-to-suborbital), so debris has remained close to its original velocity and thus close to its original orbit. The smaller the difference in velocity between the two objects, the longer the resultant debris cloud will take to re-enter.

Remember when NATO was in Western Germany only and said they would not progress past that toward Russia with the 91 treaty if Russia got rid of the Soviet Union? Yeah those were good times.

*coughBudapestMemorandumCough*

 

[bit_user]

Opposing-orbit object collisions would, be a BEST case scenario: the resulting debris would have an overall lower velocity and re-entry very rapidly.

You're presuming comparable mass, but it could be like 1000:1 and still result in some shattering of the larger debris.

 

[derekullo]

"Analysts believe Russia is mapping the undersea fiber optic cables that transfer data between continents."

Submarine Cable Map

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www.submarinecablemap.com

You mean those cables?