News NATO warships surround Chinese ship suspected of sabotaging undersea internet cables — ship allegedly dragged anchor 100 miles

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NATO is investigating the Chinese ship suspected of deliberately damaging the undersea cables connecting some of its members.

NATO warships surround Chinese ship suspected of sabotaging undersea internet cables — ship allegedly dragged anchor 100 miles : Read more

 

[3en88]

when Ukraine destroyed the Nord Stream gas pipeline in 2022.

Sorry, but you can't just state that as if it's a fact without any proof when it's nothing more than an allegation. Is Tom's Hardware a political propaganda platform now? Seymour Hersh has described in detail how it was carried out by the US government and naturally the european allies have received an explanation as to why it had to be done, some of them assisting in the operation.

 

[punkncat]

Sorry, but you can't just state that as if it's a fact without any proof when it's nothing more than an allegation. Is Tom's Hardware a political propaganda platform now? Seymour Hersh has described in detail how it was carried out by the US government and naturally the european allies have received an explanation as to why it had to be done, some of them assisting in the operation.

Perhaps perform a search before calling out "false" information. Current investigation and thought process puts this on a Ukraine national, not specifically the country.

Nord Stream pipelines sabotage - Wikipedia

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From the above article:
" In August 2024 media reported that in June German authorities issued a European arrest warrant for a Ukrainian national suspected of having used the sailing yacht Andromeda together with two others to sabotage the Nord Stream pipeline."

 

[punkncat]

The really cruddy part of this is that there is likely nothing going to come of the accusation or even proof. China is highly unlikely to pay attention to any ruling in "world court" (read as NATO) and the Russians are also unlikely to cop to it or pay for it to be repaired.

 

[3en88]

@punkncat
This has got to be trolling at this point. Wikipedia is an "appeal to authority" platform, not a source of facts. It has never been. Are you seriously linking a Wikipedia page citing a media article about German authorities "suspecting"? You can find many more articles debunking that if you do want to perform a search.
That isn't surprising at all, the German authorities will of course try to play their part and cover the US side by coming up with a cover story.

 

[punkncat]

@punkncat
This has got to be trolling at this point. Wikipedia is an "appeal to authority" platform, not a source of facts. It has never been. Are you seriously linking a Wikipedia page citing a media article about German authorities "suspecting"? You can find many more articles debunking that if you do want to perform a search.
That isn't surprising at all, the German authorities will of course try to play their part and cover the US side by coming up with a cover story.

Given the current state of media, particularly online, at the very LEAST Wikipedia requires supporting information for articles to stay up. This is far more than any three letter news you tune to.

 

[bit_user]

Perhaps perform a search before calling out "false" information.

The complaint is valid, as the statement quoted in the article fits a typical pattern of "whataboutism".

Aside from the questionable attribution, they are apples-and-organges situations where this situation involves the perp being cornered with a smoking gun, while the other situation took a while to unfold and for evidence to mount. So, you really can't compare the reactions as if the two situations were the same.

In general, the authors need to be more careful when quoting these sources.

 

[bit_user]

The really cruddy part of this is that there is likely nothing going to come of the accusation or even proof. China is highly unlikely to pay attention to any ruling in "world court"

The bare minimum standard is to name-and-shame. China is very protective of its public image. The knowledge they will be publicly outed could definitely hold some value in deterring repeat offenses.

Also, establishing a pattern of behavior could form the basis for sanctions or other forms of retaliation. So, it's absolutely worth getting to the bottom of this incident and making sure all the facts of the case are well-publicized.