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I was looking inside one of those water coolers where you put the huge plastic bottles of water on top and noticed that there is a small refrigerator unit inside? That'll cool a CPU way down, of course you will have to do something about condensation, perhaps fill your case with some near inert gas that still conduct heat well but doesn't have moisture to condensate or how about using it with one of those mineral oil cooled PC. . . . OK! Naysayer SOUND OFF?
 
I think he means one of these:

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Dear lord, how many times?

This is a worse idea then the mini fridge. Its one thing to chill room temp water, its another to chill a 125W CPU. A chilling unit that small would last how long before it burns itself out? It wasn't designed to cool a CPU, it wouldn't last long.
 
It's funny that you have a toilet as your Jiggything cause all of a sudden I Gotta take a dump and I am sure glad you wasn't there umpteen decades ago when the guy came up with the idea of putting it inside of the house, "It'll stink the whole house up", " You still gotta go outside every time to empty the buckets", What! Only PC builder can get more than the manufactured power out of their stuff, refrigeration units can be overclocked, so to speak. Anyway you are thinking Watts, think BTUs but the mini fridge is a better idea and it definitely can handle it. Starting and stopping is more damaging but we'll have it just stay on continuously while on. Dude, this'll work!
 
Yes! There are some people who LOVE to be smarter than others and there are two way to get that way. 1 learn more stuff but wait? That'll take time from my playing games and stepping on peoples bright ideas. 2. make others dummer than me by stepping on their bright ideas.

I got a question for you ix dude and you convic dude in cell block 47457, did you guys hear that idea and come to the conclusion that a mini fridge won't work in two minutes? OR!. . . Drum Role. . actually "first" think of why it "WOULD" work? You know, like inside plumbing? Like getting a computer that need a building by it's self to fit into a pizza box?

I got a great idea. . . NO! Wait, don't crush this one. Imagine the scenario first, Biff embarrassed you at recess by calling you dumb daring you, by you I mean us, saying, "Your so Dumb that You cannot even make an OCers dream Cooler out of a Mini Fridge", and you say, "OH! Yea, You Wait And See". Keep in mind that Suzzy was there playing tether ball with chrisy and Biff had his boys with him, Ned, chuck, and billy who use to be your best friend but joined biff to get him off of his case. We're now in your tree house fort after school thinking "How We Gonna Make This Work"

Questions that you guys MUST know:
1. How many BTUs does a CPU put out over all of it's ranges?
2. What is the maximum BTUs that a mini fridge is capable moving in it's current configuration?
3. Is that limited by the construction, I.Eif we take everything we need out of the box
4. What kinda Rigor mortis can we put on it to increase it's performance? Headers, racing slicks, turbo charger
5. what kinda case can we put it all in.

You know, it doesn't really sound that hard, a lot harder than shooting sNOT on the idea, OK! having to deal with the refrigerant is a bit of a stick point but I am sure that if we find the answers to those questions are a go that that sticky point will be like a vapor. We are just doing a bit of mental flatulation and we will get something out of it either way, a Wet Dream Cooling solution or solid answers as to why it cannot be done by "US".

The fact is that it can be done, without a doubt but one cannot do it with their brains tied behind their backs. Mineral Oil Cooler, I would've slammed that, maybe, but it works, It sound so ridiculous.
 
Reality is expanding reality or at lease our small concept of it to include things like inside plumbing, computers on our desk, mineral oil submerged computer, gads, that one still amazed me even though it works. I got a question for you, have you ever modified anything, not follow someone else's tried and true off the wall plan but your own? Those never fail unless you quit, they just don't work out as planned but you always get something good out of them. A few times from now when youre buying a refridgerated CPU cooler off the shelf you will not even think about this conversation. Stay Num, Put Your Fingers in You Ears and hum, anything to not hear what the future will bring when it comes.
 
There are reasons we tell people this stuff (who have no idea how to do it and haven't done any research on it)...its been tried before and it doesn't work. You are just mad because we told you it wouldn't work and it's a bad idea. Great...if you are so determined to show us up, do it, post results, pictures and prove us all wrong. Oh yeah, go ahead and try to doctor up pics and screeshots (or just use them from another rig...)
 
Look Ix, I am having fun. I have been modifying stuff from about 7 years old, I never listen to naysayers. Never! I know it works but seldom on the first try someone will get it to work. A real fabricator who tried it with not success will not tell the next guy it can't be done, he will pass his research on to you, what went wrong for him. But on the other hand, a Naysayer will only give you the, "It Can,t Be Done" and you and the rest of the world should never ever try it again. IT'S A HEAT MOVER FOR GOODNESS SAKES. CPUs have heat that need to be moved and if it isn't doing the job it needs adjusting. Simple. Truth of the matter is if you aren't the first hand modifying type and you actually have never tried it your self you have no grounds for saying "it can't work", you can, However, say, " So in So say it didn't work for him". You two really shouldn't answer this post anymore, let someone with first hand experience or at lease first hand knowledge of the situation post with explicit problems associated with the task and just read. . . or not. This is suppose to be about problem solving, sharing problems and solutions not this stuff youre selling.
 
I have been modifying stuff from about 7 years old, I never listen to naysayers
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Yet, you label your thread 'NAYSAYERS, sound off!!!'

So, you want input, only as long as it agrees with your plan?

My understanding was that a naysayer was someone who vocally opposed something???

You two really shouldn't answer this post anymore, let someone with first hand experience or at lease first hand knowledge of the situation post with explicit problems associated with the task and just read. . . or not. This is suppose to be about problem solving, sharing problems and solutions not this stuff youre selling
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I do believe there is such a thing as free speech, and being a forum (and you happened to pose the question) we have the right to reply...with information you approve of or disapprove of. You appear to have little knowledge in this situation. That's completely fine. But, you are somewhat of a closed-minded hypocrite when those of us offer ideas or suggestions that differ from your own.

Go ahead, do it...make sure you come back and give us all the details.
 
I've been thinking of creating a cheaper version of the PC Phase Change systems for awhile.....

I want to use an 80.00 window A/C unit (torn apart)......place the cooling coils into an ice chest filled with antifreeze along with the radiator and see if it can lower CPU temps further than the water system I've got now.......

Just a thought, nothing more......feedback appreciated though!
 
Sound interesting, do you really need the chest of antifreeze? perhaps just the radiator attached directly to the center of the evaporator or where ever the air current is highest? Of course the chest will give you a cooling buffer of sorts for when the unit cycles. If you have the capacity to discharge and recharge A/C you can really do something. You can scrap both the evaporator and the CPU water cooler radiator and build a custom unit that maximizes surface contact without the need of a chest of antifreeze. It can be much smaller than a large square evaporator. Is there a way to upload pix on this forum?
 
Dude? Why are you here? What are you some kinda hate monger? You got nothing better to do but to try to smash people? That don't work here, you are hurting your self. Go back over the whole thread and if you are able see what the whole gist of what you are about, it's not about what this forum is about. You seem bent on compressing people back into you your little small reality. Heyyy! Waaiiiit! I got free rent in your head! You cannot stop thinking about me! When you see my user ID you cannot help but read it and stew & spew hate, eh? Tell the truth, when you feel hate you feel powerful, like you can just rip a bear in two with you hands, go ahead try it, grab the bear off of your pillow and tear it in two. You know hate is power, yes for impotent people people to weak to risk vulnerability. To really have a friend you must be a true friend and entails the risk of being hurt and it will happen you will get hurt but that's when your tongue comes in, lick your wounds and try again and at times with the same person that hurt you. You see, instead of posting that hurtful comment about my not knowing how to put a pic you should've just told me. That would've made you look smart, Missed that one didn't you! Soo after all that, how do you put a picture here?

I am not a OCr and have no plans on making a refrigerated cooler, Yet, I am just talking about the possibilities, perhaps I can help someone else.
 
Thanks Dr. Phil. And he has the right to be here, just like the rest of us. So, your idea of telling someone that they don't belong here in a forum or they don't have the right to give the advice they do is just as damning as your rant about hate and anger. It is the same kind of oppression, just with a different spin. Wake up, man.

51 years old and you act like an 18 year old kid with a chip on your shoulder?
 
I have several ice chests (the Coleman 95 degree ones) that I considered using as the "heat exchange unit" containing the A/C cooling coils and radiator.......

I tried the "radiator in the ice" method years back, and it did work well......just messy!

So I've got the cool fluid heat exchange on my brain......no real reason except it would be easier to keep the water cooling system I've already got and just add the ac cooling coils into the ice chest......I'm being lazy and don't want the plumbing nightmare of squeezing the ac coils into my PC...... ;-)
 
BogSpores,
What about condensation? Putting the A/C coils in your PC case probably is a nightmare. How about taking some copper tubing the same size as you water cooler tubing and zig zag or spiral it across the face of the A/C coils. That probably will work while leaving it as a window A/C unit as it will be better to have the condenser outside as it will heat it up in the room and increase noise levels. As a simple note what would be the results of just taking some six inch flexible A/C duct from a Window unit to a large Air cooler? Just thinking. What do you think about the possibilities of having one of those mineral oil tank PCs and putting A/C coils inside? My only thought to that is what would happen to the oil consistency and transparency at lower temps? I am sure that there are other fluids that will work if mineral oil dont work at those temps.
 



I did not tell him to go I am suggesting he do so and to take you with him. This post is not good for you two because it seems that you are upset because I didn't take your advise to not talk about the possibilities of this particular cooler. I am not mad at all, really. Imagine this, you see me talking to someone, lets say BogSpores about a topic that is interesting to both he and I, you with me so far? Anyway a couple of flies start flying around my head and I keep on talking but start waving my hands trying to keep them out of my face. You see, I am not angry at all I am just swatting at flies.

So I'll ask you the same question, "Why Are You Here"? This is a thread about Refrigerated CPU coolers that I started and you're coming Aaaalll Theee Wwwwhhhyyy Oooovveerrrr Hhheeerrreee to talk to me, someone you obviously hate? Go figure!

Bricks don't bounce unless you throw it at the wrong thing so trust me, I am not angry at all that's your own stuff being reflected back at you.

Here's a good one for you, print this thread but change the names and show it to someone "mature" that don't use this forum and ask them there opinion.
 
The copper coils run along side the A/C coils sounds pretty good!....and would be FAR LESS messy than an ice chest filled with liquid..... ;-)

Bottom line, there HAS to be a way for someone to utilize the phase change system of a small A/C unit rather than shell out 350.00+ for a PC case with phase change already installed......

My current liquid cooling setup works ok, but not effecient enough to overclock my old Celeron D (2.66) to 4.1MHz unless the radiator is dunked in ice......
 
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