Build Advice Need a little help with new PC build

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Ok so i want to build around september this year new PC, gonna sell my old one to my sister so im building from scratch.
I´m not that that much into this stuff but i dont know anyone so im gonna just ask here for help.
My budget is somethinjg around 900€-could potentially be 1000€.
Was thinking about
CPU- R5 3600 - 205€
GPU- RX 5700 -388€
But thats where my thinking ends. I have no idea what i would put as other components, especially when from what i got on internet ryzens are pretty picky about RAMs and Mobo
So if anyone could help me think of some kind of build please tell me and teach me.
After all only way to know the stuff is to learn it.
You can use this site for price reference in my country: https://www.alza.sk/
 
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MoBo. any b450 would do but if you want Rx 5700 only MBs with x570 would provide PCIe 4 or you could wait for some decent b550 chipset MBs. Not that 5700 wouldn't work fine with PCIe 3.
400 chipset MBs will need a BIOS upgrade though and that may require gen1 or gen2 CPU if you can't get seller or somebody else to do it for you.
RAM is getting cheaper now and they say that 3600 - 3777MHz is sweet spot.
Given my experience I would go for this one https://www.alza.sk/EN/asus-prime-x570-pro-d5626686.htm
 
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MSI B450 Tomahawk - €105 - Supports MSI Flashback so you won't have to get an older CPU just to upgrade the BIOS for R5 3600.
2x8GB DDR4-3000 - €85 - Total 16GB. Fast RAM that is necessary for Ryzen.
Zalman Z1 Neo - €40 - Looks nice
Seasonic S12ii 520w - €60 - Trusted high quality PSU.
Patriot Scorch 250GB - €40 - M.2 SSD for Windows and a few games.
1TB SATA 3 7200RPM - €50 - Large storage for games and other program.
Ok few queetions
What is the difference between the B450 and X570 pro mobo when I Can get that BIOS update on B450 or more like why should i buy X570 when i Can get that update on B450.
Second question: will the 3000 MHz RAM be noticably worse than 3600? I mean the 16gb of 3600 would cost me 190€(least expensive one) so buying 3000s for 85€ is good saving point. I'm quite patient person so if it will only affect loading times i dont mind but if theres big performance hit i mind.
And will the 520w PSU that is posted here enough for this? I had 500w one on my last Pc so i though im gonna need a lot more for these new parts.
And will i need some kind of after market Cooler on that cpu? I think the r5 3600 comes without any Cooler (the box is too small so im just going by eye, correct me if im wrong) because i dont think the cpu will run any good without Cooler.
 

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MoBo. any b450 would do but if you want Rx 5700 only MBs with x570 would provide PCIe 4 or you could wait for some decent b550 chipset MBs. Not that 5700 wouldn't work fine with PCIe 3.
400 chipset MBs will need a BIOS upgrade though and that may require gen1 or gen2 CPU if you can't get seller or somebody else to do it for you.
RAM is getting cheaper now and they say that 3600 - 3777MHz is sweet spot.
Given my experience I would go for this one https://www.alza.sk/EN/asus-prime-x570-pro-d5626686.htm
Ok few queetions
What is the difference between the B450 and X570 pro mobo when I Can get that BIOS update on B450 or more like why should i buy X570 when i Can get that update on B450.
Second question: will the 3000 MHz RAM be noticably worse than 3600? I mean the 16gb of 3600 would cost me 190€(least expensive one) so buying 3000s for 85€ is good saving point. I'm quite patient person so if it will only affect loading times i dont mind but if theres big performance hit i mind.
And will the 520w PSU that is posted here enough for this? I had 500w one on my last Pc so i though im gonna need a lot more for these new parts.
And will i need some kind of after market Cooler on that cpu? I think the r5 3600 comes without any Cooler (the box is too small so im just going by eye, correct me if im wrong) because i dont think the cpu will run any good without Cooler.
 
1: x570 has PCI-E 4.0, a faster connection. In reality, this won't be a problem for the current/next GPUs
  1. If you have some extra budget, go with faster RAM definitely. But make sure you aren't cutting back on any other components. If you can get 3200MHz then that would of course be better though, as it isn't too much more expensive that 3000Mhz.
  2. 520wis enough if it is a good quality PSU. The SeaSonic S12ii is enough, and you could even do a little bit of overclocking if you wanted.
  3. The 3600 does have a cooler - the Wraith Stealth. These have go themselves a reputation for being very good quality, and are recommended by most. They are equal to even some of the more expensive air coolers, and the only reason why you should pay for an aftermarket cooler is if you are liquid cooling.
 

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1: x570 has PCI-E 4.0, a faster connection. In reality, this won't be a problem for the current/next GPUs
  1. If you have some extra budget, go with faster RAM definitely. But make sure you aren't cutting back on any other components. If you can get 3200MHz then that would of course be better though, as it isn't too much more expensive that 3000Mhz.
  2. 520wis enough if it is a good quality PSU. The SeaSonic S12ii is enough, and you could even do a little bit of overclocking if you wanted.
  3. The 3600 does have a cooler - the Wraith Stealth. These have go themselves a reputation for being very good quality, and are recommended by most. They are equal to even some of the more expensive air coolers, and the only reason why you should pay for an aftermarket cooler is if you are liquid cooling.
Thanks, I'm probably going for 3400 RAM
Since you can get them around 100€ (2x8gb) and all the other components you listed above
https://m.alza.sk/patriot-viper4-series-16-gb-kit-ddr4-3400-mhz-cl16-d5460551.htm. Would these do? Or do you recommend some other?
But i dont understand why 3400 cost this much and 3600 cost 100€ more.
Is there some kind of BIG advantage to having 3600? Or is difference between 3400 and 3600 same as for example between 3200 and 3400 and price for 3600 is just stupid high.
If im gonna have some more questions in future i will write here so please have patience with me
 

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I think the reason why the 3400 MHz you linked is so cheap is because it is on sale. There's only 3 left, so make sure they don't run out. The difference between 3400 MHz and 3600 MHz will be very small.
Im not buying right now but theres always something for sale, i might just wait for black friday even. But is there something to watch out when buying RAM? Like can i trip myself on something?
 

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Watch out for the latency of RAM. That one has CL16, which is good. The lower the number, the better. As the MHz go up, latency goes up too, so while CL19 might be accepted on 4200MHz, on 3000MHz you will want CL14 or 15.
Thanks, and since i will be getting next year february some taxes back i will have like 150€ spare so would it be smart to buy 1 stick of 16gb and next year another one or is 32gb on computer like this pure stupid overkill (and i dont plan on editing much or something so this is PC for pure gaming and watching YouTube)