[SOLVED] Need a new system as the old one is slowly dying on me.

[LordPM]

My old computer is in the state of dying on me any weeks now. There was quite a few power surges lately and some parts just seem to be malfonctioning from time to time so i figured it was time to change the system a bit since this one dates back to 2013.
When is it the best time usually to buy the GPU, motherboard,CPU and RAM, is it black friday or i better try to wait till boxing day?
What would you guys recommend for the parts? I asked about two months ago and people told me to wait until the companies released their new hardwares, which i believe they did last month if i am not mistaken?
I don't want a really high end computer, just something that i can play some of the stuff that's coming out, doesn't need to be all on ultra settings either. Best bang for the buck that'll last at least 4-5 years would be great. I just changed my PSU lately with this one here. I've no company preferences really. I used to go with nvidia but if you guys tell me the best bang for the buck is Radeon then so be it. I just want my money to be well spent. I use my systems until they die on me so resell value is of no importance, only performance for the bucks is.

Im planning on changing the motherboard, cpu, gpu and ram. Pretty much everything but the PSU i guess. The monitor is an old model but it will eventually be changed so don't mind it for now. But i'll buy a decent one in the future. Right now it's an old 24 inch monitor that is probably 12 years old. Im a casual gamer that wants to be able to try some of the stuff that comes out but i have 3 kids so i don't play more than let say 10 hours a week at the most. I know... i know, console gaming would be cheaper... but i can't play half the games i like with a controller for the life of me! I like First person shooters and im an old Call of duty 1, United Offensive player, i just can't play FPS games with a controller.... So i'd say for those 4 parts, between 700 and 1000 if it's realistic? If you got ideas that are a bit above but much better feel free to pitch them in, we never know. Im in Canada for those that asked.

Thanks a lot guys.

 

[Darkbreeze]

So, what is your budget for the parts you need and exactly which parts do you think you do NOT need because you already have ones that will suffice? And, what ARE those parts and approximately how old are they, not counting your newer power supply which is a pretty good model by the way.

Also, what country are you in, because, that matters an awful lot.

 

[LordPM]

My bad guys, i didn't know all this, I updated the original post with the requested informations. Thanks a lot for the quick responses.

 

[Darkbreeze]

Well, Canada sucks, because, that means the parts are going to be a lot more expensive, but it is what it is.

Kind of hard to "not mind" the monitor because the components need to be built to reflect the performance required for the resolution. So if you are going to plan to go for a 1080p display, that's what you build for. If you plan to go with a 1440p or 4k display, that's what you build for. And while you can certainly OVER-build, underbuilding is a bad idea so we really want to decide what resolution you will likely be entertaining whenever you DO upgrade your monitor, because it's fairly important. Especially in terms of what graphics card is going to be good enough to drive that display. You don't want to get something that works for what you have now then find out later that the 4k display you want is going to be too demanding for the graphics card you bought.

 

[Why_Me]

1080P gaming.

https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_1832_1833&item_id=170762
ASUS PRIME B550-PLUS $149.00

https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=4_64_1969&item_id=216441
AMD Ryzen 5 5600 $174.00

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0143UM4TC
Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200MHz 16GB (2x8GB) CL16 $72.99

https://www.vuugo.com/asrock-video-cards-RX6600XT-CLD-8GO.html
ASRock Radeon RX 6600 XT Challenger D 8GB OC Video Card $438.37

Total: $834.36 CAD

 

[LordPM]

1080P gaming.

https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_1832_1833&item_id=170762
ASUS PRIME B550-PLUS $149.00

https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=4_64_1969&item_id=216441
AMD Ryzen 5 5600 $174.00

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0143UM4TC
Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200MHz 16GB (2x8GB) CL16 $72.99

https://www.vuugo.com/asrock-video-cards-RX6600XT-CLD-8GO.html
ASRock Radeon RX 6600 XT Challenger D 8GB OC Video Card $438.37

Total: $834.36 CAD

Thanks a lot! Was wondering, is there usually any point waiting for black friday / cyber monday / boxing day or it's not really that good for anything computer related?

 

[LordPM]

Well, Canada sucks, because, that means the parts are going to be a lot more expensive, but it is what it is.

Kind of hard to "not mind" the monitor because the components need to be built to reflect the performance required for the resolution. So if you are going to plan to go for a 1080p display, that's what you build for. If you plan to go with a 1440p or 4k display, that's what you build for. And while you can certainly OVER-build, underbuilding is a bad idea so we really want to decide what resolution you will likely be entertaining whenever you DO upgrade your monitor, because it's fairly important. Especially in terms of what graphics card is going to be good enough to drive that display. You don't want to get something that works for what you have now then find out later that the 4k display you want is going to be too demanding for the graphics card you bought.

Is there a big differences in prices between the two? Like i said im mostly casual gamer that have not much time to game to be honest. I have no idea or knowledge about the new monitor technologies to be honest with you.

 

[Darkbreeze]

No, there is really no point in waiting. Ever. The only things that are generally on sale for black friday are either things from last or two generations back, some of which MIGHT be desirable in many cases, or more usually, things that are already either obsolete or unwanted for the most part that retailers need to try and get rid of.

This year, will probably be a bit different since there have been hardware shortages for two years on most components and now new parts have come out shortly before the holidays so a lot of people have already bought what they wanted plus there won't be likely to be much in the way of surplus inventory because over the last two years since the Covid, worker and shipping shortages people have mostly bought up whatever was available when they could it. Surely there will be some deals, but it could go the other way as well. Prices are not bad right now and if you need the parts now, then now is the time to by them. Nobody can say what will or will not for sure happen in a month, or a week, or tomorrow. Or after Christmas.

 

[LordPM]

No, there is really no point in waiting. Ever. The only things that are generally on sale for black friday are either things from last or two generations back, some of which MIGHT be desirable in many cases, or more usually, things that are already either obsolete or unwanted for the most part that retailers need to try and get rid of.

This year, will probably be a bit different since there have been hardware shortages for two years on most components and now new parts have come out shortly before the holidays so a lot of people have already bought what they wanted plus there won't be likely to be much in the way of surplus inventory because over the last two years since the Covid, worker and shipping shortages people have mostly bought up whatever was available when they could it. Surely there will be some deals, but it could go the other way as well. Prices are not bad right now and if you need the parts now, then now is the time to by them. Nobody can say what will or will not for sure happen in a month, or a week, or tomorrow. Or after Christmas.

Ok, thanks for the input! As far as monitor go, would you say it's a lot cheaper to go 1080 or the difference in prices between 1080 and 1440 4K is neglectable and 1080 should be avoided?

Also, between an rx 6600 XT at 438 and a rx 4700 xt at 499, would you say the upgrade is worth it or not really noticeable?

 

[Darkbreeze]

Is there a big differences in prices between the two? Like i said im mostly casual gamer that have not much time to game to be honest. I have no idea or knowledge about the new monitor technologies to be honest with you.

So, let's assume that as an entry level gamer you are likely to go with a 1080p display when you buy one, because that is the most common resolution for most displays and TVs still and is basically the baseline for new gamers and entry level systems.

In which case, I'd recommend doing something like this, which gets you into decent parts, with good performance, on the cheap, so to speak. I'm including a new OS drive as well, because what you have is probably pretty old and slow (And newer NVME M.2 drives are many, many times faster in most read and write operations) and you are going to need to reinstall Windows when you build this anyhow. Or at the least, it is VERY HIGHLY recommended that you do a clean install if you don't want to be plagued by problems with your Windows installation.

What version of Windows do you have now? Is it attached to a Microsoft account? Because if it's not, you are going to want to do that BEFORE you build the new system and try to use your license to activate the new installation which would need to happen whether you did a clean install or not.

Also, this CPU has basically the same performance as the 5600 in the build above, but also has integrated graphics included so that if you ever have a problem with the graphics card you don't have to go without the use of the system while you get that sorted out, you can simply use the integrated graphics until you do. Also nice for troubleshooting problems with the graphics card if you have them.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600G 3.9 GHz 6-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Canada Computers)
Motherboard: ASRock B550 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($141.38 @ iSanek)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($59.99 @ Canada Computers)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN570 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: Sapphire NITRO+ Radeon RX 6600 XT 8 GB Video Card ($463.25 @ Vuugo)
Total: $884.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-11-12 00:26 EST-0500

 

[Darkbreeze]

Ok, thanks for the input! As far as monitor go, would you say it's a lot cheaper to go 1080 or the difference in prices between 1080 and 1440 4K is neglectable and 1080 should be avoided?

Also, between an rx 6600 XT at 438 and a rx 4700 xt at 499, would you say the upgrade is worth it or not really noticeable?

To this I'd say building for 1440p or 4k is a lot more expensive, especially in terms of the graphics card and display costs. Also, I think you made a typo as there is no RX 4700 xt.

 

[LordPM]

So, let's assume that as an entry level gamer you are likely to go with a 1080p display when you buy one, because that is the most common resolution for most displays and TVs still and is basically the baseline for new gamers and entry level systems.

In which case, I'd recommend doing something like this, which gets you into decent parts, with good performance, on the cheap, so to speak. I'm including a new OS drive as well, because what you have is probably pretty old and slow (And newer NVME M.2 drives are many, many times faster in most read and write operations) and you are going to need to reinstall Windows when you build this anyhow. Or at the least, it is VERY HIGHLY recommended that you do a clean install if you don't want to be plagued by problems with your Windows installation.

What version of Windows do you have now? Is it attached to a Microsoft account? Because if it's not, you are going to want to do that BEFORE you build the new system and try to use your license to activate the new installation which would need to happen whether you did a clean install or not.

Also, this CPU has basically the same performance as the 5600 in the build above, but also has integrated graphics included so that if you ever have a problem with the graphics card you don't have to go without the use of the system while you get that sorted out, you can simply use the integrated graphics until you do. Also nice for troubleshooting problems with the graphics card if you have them.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600G 3.9 GHz 6-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Canada Computers)
Motherboard: ASRock B550 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($141.38 @ iSanek)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($59.99 @ Canada Computers)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN570 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: Sapphire NITRO+ Radeon RX 6600 XT 8 GB Video Card ($463.25 @ Vuugo)
Total: $884.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-11-12 00:26 EST-0500

Ok so 1080p display is still good. I run Windows 10 Pro right now but you're right i might need to buy a new key because i think this one was OEM. Yes my old system is very old, it's an intel i5-4670k with a GTX 770 4GB. 24GB of old ram and an old Z87-G45 motherboard. I will definitely do a clean install.
I appreciate that the CPU has an integrated graphic cards, can definitely be helpful if problem occurs with the GPU. I already have a 250gb SSD drive that i run windows on and a regular drive old drive for games. Im guessing i should upgrade that old drive to SSD as well?
Another question, is there much of a difference between the AsRock and the Sapphire RX 6600Xt video card? Im asking because i like to order from newegg.ca and they have the AsRock model but not the Sapphire model. If there is a good difference i'll buy from Vuugo instead.
Last question, do you have a good bang for the buck monitor you'd recommend for that setup by chance?
P.S. You're right was a typo i meant RX 6600XT for 438$ and RX 6700XT for 499. Is the higher price tag worth it or not really noticeable?

Thanks a lot for all the great informations, really appreciated.

 

[LordPM]

So, let's assume that as an entry level gamer you are likely to go with a 1080p display when you buy one, because that is the most common resolution for most displays and TVs still and is basically the baseline for new gamers and entry level systems.

In which case, I'd recommend doing something like this, which gets you into decent parts, with good performance, on the cheap, so to speak. I'm including a new OS drive as well, because what you have is probably pretty old and slow (And newer NVME M.2 drives are many, many times faster in most read and write operations) and you are going to need to reinstall Windows when you build this anyhow. Or at the least, it is VERY HIGHLY recommended that you do a clean install if you don't want to be plagued by problems with your Windows installation.

What version of Windows do you have now? Is it attached to a Microsoft account? Because if it's not, you are going to want to do that BEFORE you build the new system and try to use your license to activate the new installation which would need to happen whether you did a clean install or not.

Also, this CPU has basically the same performance as the 5600 in the build above, but also has integrated graphics included so that if you ever have a problem with the graphics card you don't have to go without the use of the system while you get that sorted out, you can simply use the integrated graphics until you do. Also nice for troubleshooting problems with the graphics card if you have them.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600G 3.9 GHz 6-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Canada Computers)
Motherboard: ASRock B550 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($141.38 @ iSanek)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($59.99 @ Canada Computers)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN570 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: Sapphire NITRO+ Radeon RX 6600 XT 8 GB Video Card ($463.25 @ Vuugo)
Total: $884.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-11-12 00:26 EST-0500

Im not very knowledgeable about windows registration, but the key i got came with the parts i bought back then. Im guessing this is an OEM key that will not work on the next motherboard?

 

[Darkbreeze]

I've not had any problems transferring the digital entitlement of ANY copy of Windows to my next system so long as was attached to ME by way of a Microsoft account. Your mileage may vary, but I'd definitely try it first before shelling out the money UNLESS you plan to continue using the current system after the new one is built.

In light of that statement it would be a very good idea to read through ALL of these, so that you are very familiar with the process ahead of time. Even reading more than once or getting further clarification on any points you are uncertain about is a good idea.

How to associate your windows 10 license with a Microsoft account

Reactivating Windows 10 after a hardware change

Windows build 1607 (Or newer) and activation after a hardware change



and in case you should ever need to do a CLEAN install of Windows, this guide will help to ensure it gets done properly.

How to do a CLEAN installation of Windows 10, the RIGHT way​

As to a monitor, assuming you are not looking for something top of the line, something like this would be just fine for some entry to mid level 1080p gaming. If you decide you need something better down the road you can always sell this one or use it as a second display so that you have more real estate to work with and can keep apps, browser windows or whatever open on one while gaming on the other. That takes very little extra resources to do, unlike gaming on multiple monitors.

How much can you reasonably afford to put towards a monitor. I had a great budget model picked out but unfortunately I forgot you were in Canada and in your market that unit was more than twice the price than in the US, so out the window that went. Be good to know a budget for it though.

 

[LordPM]

I've not had any problems transferring the digital entitlement of ANY copy of Windows to my next system so long as was attached to ME by way of a Microsoft account. Your mileage may vary, but I'd definitely try it first before shelling out the money UNLESS you plan to continue using the current system after the new one is built.

In light of that statement it would be a very good idea to read through ALL of these, so that you are very familiar with the process ahead of time. Even reading more than once or getting further clarification on any points you are uncertain about is a good idea.

How to associate your windows 10 license with a Microsoft account

Reactivating Windows 10 after a hardware change

Windows build 1607 (Or newer) and activation after a hardware change



and in case you should ever need to do a CLEAN install of Windows, this guide will help to ensure it gets done properly.

How to do a CLEAN installation of Windows 10, the RIGHT way​

As to a monitor, assuming you are not looking for something top of the line, something like this would be just fine for some entry to mid level 1080p gaming. If you decide you need something better down the road you can always sell this one or use it as a second display so that you have more real estate to work with and can keep apps, browser windows or whatever open on one while gaming on the other. That takes very little extra resources to do, unlike gaming on multiple monitors.

How much can you reasonably afford to put towards a monitor. I had a great budget model picked out but unfortunately I forgot you were in Canada and in your market that unit was more than twice the price than in the US, so out the window that went. Be good to know a budget for it though.

Thanks a lot! This is some very good explanations!

I was about to order the components you mentioned earlier and i saw an RX 6700 XT for 499. Would that be much better than the 6600 Xt for 463$ or the difference is so slim it's not even worth it?

As for the monitor i have no idea what is a good budget for it. Between 200 to 400$ seems ok? Im sorry i really didn't follow new technologies and i have no ideas what they are worth sadly.

 

[Darkbreeze]

For a 36 dollar difference, sure, it would be worth it.

 

[Darkbreeze]

This is a really good gaming monitor for the price, but it doesn't have really excellent contrast so if you tend to game in a very dark room blacks may look gray and it might not be a good choice in that situation. If you tend to game in a moderately to well lighted room it's pretty hard to beat.

PCPartPicker Part List

Monitor: Dell G2722HS 27.0" 1920 x 1080 165 Hz Monitor ($199.99 @ Dell)
Total: $199.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-11-13 02:07 EST-0500

 

[LordPM]

For a 36 dollar difference, sure, it would be worth it.

Thanks alot! I will be ordering both.

 

[LordPM]

So, let's assume that as an entry level gamer you are likely to go with a 1080p display when you buy one, because that is the most common resolution for most displays and TVs still and is basically the baseline for new gamers and entry level systems.

In which case, I'd recommend doing something like this, which gets you into decent parts, with good performance, on the cheap, so to speak. I'm including a new OS drive as well, because what you have is probably pretty old and slow (And newer NVME M.2 drives are many, many times faster in most read and write operations) and you are going to need to reinstall Windows when you build this anyhow. Or at the least, it is VERY HIGHLY recommended that you do a clean install if you don't want to be plagued by problems with your Windows installation.

What version of Windows do you have now? Is it attached to a Microsoft account? Because if it's not, you are going to want to do that BEFORE you build the new system and try to use your license to activate the new installation which would need to happen whether you did a clean install or not.

Also, this CPU has basically the same performance as the 5600 in the build above, but also has integrated graphics included so that if you ever have a problem with the graphics card you don't have to go without the use of the system while you get that sorted out, you can simply use the integrated graphics until you do. Also nice for troubleshooting problems with the graphics card if you have them.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600G 3.9 GHz 6-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Canada Computers)
Motherboard: ASRock B550 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($141.38 @ iSanek)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($59.99 @ Canada Computers)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN570 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: Sapphire NITRO+ Radeon RX 6600 XT 8 GB Video Card ($463.25 @ Vuugo)
Total: $884.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-11-12 00:26 EST-0500

Was wondering, is this motherboard as good as the one you mentioned earlier? Trying to order everything from newegg to save on shipping. They have the motherboard you mentioned earlier for 209.99 so i was trying to find a cheaper replacement on their websites.
Otherwise maybe this one on amazon? (i got prime membership so the shipping is free)
Also im guessing CPU fan don't come with the CPU anymore? Also guessing my older one will most likely not fit on the new motherboard or is this still standard?

 

[Darkbreeze]

Either of those boards is fine.

Yes, the 5600G does come with a CPU cooler, BUT, I'm telling you that these Ryzen CPU coolers will drive you fracking nutty with ramping up and down and up and down. So if you are so inclined, buying a cheap aftermarket cooler like this one, which is a VERY good model, is a REALLY good idea.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU Cooler: Thermalright Assassin X 120 Refined SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($33.02 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $33.02
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-11-13 19:05 EST-0500



But, you CAN get by with the stock cooler that comes with the 5600G and it WILL do an "ok" job of keeping it cool. You will likely lose a little bit of boost performance because the stock Wraith coolers (Ryzen coolers are called "Wraith" for some dumb reason) are simply cheaply built Cooler master stock coolers compared to most decent aftermarket coolers.

Is your old cooler a stock cooler or an aftermarket model? If it's a stock cooler, then no, it won't work. If it is an aftermarket cooler from a well known brand and a decent model, you MIGHT be able to get AM4 socket mounting hardware from the manufacturer.

 

[LordPM]

Either of those boards is fine.

Yes, the 5600G does come with a CPU cooler, BUT, I'm telling you that these Ryzen CPU coolers will drive you fracking nutty with ramping up and down and up and down. So if you are so inclined, buying a cheap aftermarket cooler like this one, which is a VERY good model, is a REALLY good idea.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU Cooler: Thermalright Assassin X 120 Refined SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($33.02 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $33.02
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-11-13 19:05 EST-0500



But, you CAN get by with the stock cooler that comes with the 5600G and it WILL do an "ok" job of keeping it cool. You will likely lose a little bit of boost performance because the stock Wraith coolers (Ryzen coolers are called "Wraith" for some dumb reason) are simply cheaply built Cooler master stock coolers compared to most decent aftermarket coolers.

Is your old cooler a stock cooler or an aftermarket model? If it's a stock cooler, then no, it won't work. If it is an aftermarket cooler from a well known brand and a decent model, you MIGHT be able to get AM4 socket mounting hardware from the manufacturer.

Ok great!
Ok i'll buy that cooler then if the stock one is that bad. Im tossing over 1000$ on this i don't want to lose performance for something that i can fix for 40$.
The old cooler is the stock one that came with the i5-4670k. I never had any problem with it even when gaming more back then, but it must be pretty obsolete now.
My friend says he's using this one for his intel and it works wonders. Does it work with my processor as well and does it seem goo quality? It says AM4 but then there's some other weird numbers after that i am not familiar with.

 

[Darkbreeze]

The True spirit was a really decent cooler for the price, and for it's time. The one I recommended is a far better cooler than what he has. I've used a bunch of the Thermalright True spirit 120 and 140 coolers on a variety of builds over the years and they were very good, but with the newer Thermalright models out that outperform them for less money, I won't be continuing to recommend them. It's like recommending a six cylinder over an 8 cylinder option for somebody who is looking for the most streetable horsepower, unless of course the 6 cylinder is super or turbo charged or has nitrous.

 

[LordPM]

The True spirit was a really decent cooler for the price, and for it's time. The one I recommended is a far better cooler than what he has. I've used a bunch of the Thermalright True spirit 120 and 140 coolers on a variety of builds over the years and they were very good, but with the newer Thermalright models out that outperform them for less money, I won't be continuing to recommend them. It's like recommending a six cylinder over an 8 cylinder option for somebody who is looking for the most streetable horsepower, unless of course the 6 cylinder is super or turbo charged or has nitrous.

Ah ok then! I'll get the other cheaper one you recommended. Do you know if it comes with thermal paste on it or i have to buy some?

 

[Darkbreeze]

It comes with it's own thermal paste, and it's decent quality. If you want what I normally use, which is not going to make a HUGE difference, but might net you a couple 2-4°C lower temps, get yourself some Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut, or Noctua NT-H2.

https://www.amazon.com/Thermal-Grizzly-Kryonaut-Grease-Paste/dp/B011F7W3LU

It does not however come "on it". You have to apply it to the top of the CPU heatspreader just before installing the cooler. I recommend using a dollop in the center of the heat spreader equal to about half the size of a canned pea. There are more complex application methods, but that should work perfectly fine. Or two grains of rice side by side in the center. Be sure to take the protective plastic film off the bottom of the cooler heatsink before you install the cooler if there is any. Sometimes there is, sometimes there isn't.

 

[LordPM]

It comes with it's own thermal paste, and it's decent quality. If you want what I normally use, which is not going to make a HUGE difference, but might net you a couple 2-4°C lower temps, get yourself some Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut, or Noctua NT-H2.

https://www.amazon.com/Thermal-Grizzly-Kryonaut-Grease-Paste/dp/B011F7W3LU

It does not however come "on it". You have to apply it to the top of the CPU heatspreader just before installing the cooler. I recommend using a dollop in the center of the heat spreader equal to about half the size of a canned pea. There are more complex application methods, but that should work perfectly fine. Or two grains of rice side by side in the center. Be sure to take the protective plastic film off the bottom of the cooler heatsink before you install the cooler if there is any. Sometimes there is, sometimes there isn't.

Thanks, i will order this as well!

I have one last question for you that i have trouble finding an answer to online. You recommended a pcie ssd harddrive earlier. Should i use this one for everything or should i have one hard drive for my Os and one for my Data like we used to back in the days? I ordered the 500 gb pcie ssd you recommended but i also have an old Sata ssd drive here. Should i use this for data/games or it's too slow and i should get something else? I got the asus prime motherboard, not sure but i think there is only one pcie ssd slot?