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IntoDarkness

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Hello everyone,

This is still a WIP build, all unpurchased parts are not set in stone.
Help me get the best build I can get.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/QDqFJx

It includes an EVGA ACX SSC 1080 ($700 is just a placeholder for when it comes out, if a 1080ti comes out I'll be getting that.), But for now, it's just my EVGA ACX SSC 970.

The Asus Motherboard, G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB and Intel i7 6700k are bundled on Newegg for a discount.

I've never owned an aftermarket CPU fan and I'm looking for suggestions.

Case, OS, keyboard and mouse are already purchased.

Monitor: Currently a 1080p 32" vizio tv (hope to upgrade depending on cost.)

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My budget for the rest of the parts is around $1500-2000 depending on the sell price of my current components.
Part preference: Nvidia and Intel are my preference
Color preference: Black brushed aluminum to match my case (Define r5) and dark reds.
Website: Newegg and Amazon (Don't really care though, as long as they're trustworthy.)
Screen: 1920x1080
Location: I live in the US.
Approximate completion date: Hope to have the build finished within 2-3 months.
OC: I plan on overclocking.
Use: Pc will be used for Gaming, streaming movies and some photo editing.
Reason: I'm upgrading for better performance while gaming at 4k.

What kind of performance should be expected from this build?

Any help will be extremely appreciated.
 
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Barty1884
For the 'HERO'? It has a bit better protection for overclocking - and I think it's a pretty good looking board.

For your uses, it's probably not going to make a whole bunch of difference.
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If that's truly the case (ie up to $2,000 before the GPU), there's no reason you can't just go all out:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5930K 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($554.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X61 106.1 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($114.99 @ B&H)
Motherboard: MSI X99A GAMING 7 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($250.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($174.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($320.48 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($65.09 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 w/Window (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000G2 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($135.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($83.89 @ OutletPC)
Keyboard: Corsair K70 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Logitech G502 Wired Optical Mouse ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1976.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-18 12:49 EDT-0400
 
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Thank you for responding, can you give me a quick breakdown of the parts? Why you chose them, why 32GBs instead of 16Gbs and etc.

EDIT: Also the budget is correct but I would like to keep it under $2000, but will increase if necessary.
 
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32GB RAM is useless, we are just starting to use 16GB with extra high resolution games. So go 16GB. Secondly, an I7 6700K is way better for both gaming and editing than an I7 5930K and the 6700K is cheaper.
 
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Thank you for responding,
That's kind of what I thought with the 32GBs and for the I7 6700k what would be the best cooler?
 
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As far as a breakdown of parts goes, it's totally overkill, but will last for a very long time.

CPU: Gaming is unlikely to utilize 4+ cores but, depending on the editing program it likely can/will. The 6700k has 4 cores + HT (so 8 threads), the 5930K has 6 cores + HT (12 threads). It may or may not be useful or noticeable, depending on the application......and how often you plan to edit photos. You'd be able to game + stream + edit to some degree concurrently, if you wanted to for some reason, you'd struggle a little bit with the 6700k (although more than likely that's a non-issue).
If you want to get into video editing etc, it certainly wouldn't be a bad thing that have such a powerful CPU at your disposal.

CPU Cooler: Whether you go with a 6700k, 5930k or something else, the Kraken X61 is one of the best performing AIO liquid coolers. If you want to OC, the H7 you suggested isn't going to cut it for any form of noticeable OC. KRaken X61 for an AIO liquid, or a Noctua NH-D15 would be a great air option.

Motherboard: X99 boards are all quality, so the only reason for picking the MSI board was to match your preferred colour-scheme.

RAM: 32GB why? Well, because you can. Editing will utilize a lot of RAM, and it's a "more the better" situation. 16GB is likely a sweet spot, but you can accommodate 32GB within your budget, so why not? This would have no bearing on gaming at all, as games rarely utilize 8GB+, let alone 16GB. Solely related to editing. Same rules apply as the CPU, if you want to edit frequently, or get into Video editing etc, then having 32GB available would be welcome.

SSD: The 850Evo is a much better performer than the SanDisk Ultra II you had picked out, plain & simple. For even better performance, there are Intel PCIe based options - but those get in to astronomical pricing. Good call with the near 1TB element though, your editing will certainly benefit there.

PSU: You're probably going overkill there with a 1000W G2, but I stuck with your recommendation. A 750W SuperNOVA B2 would be fine for you (and is $49 after a rebate!). From a couple of tests I've seen so far, the 1080's utilize very little power - meaning you'd have to SLI 3 or more of them (which is not officially supported or recommended) to come close using close to the G2's capability. OC'ing will increase your power consumption, so you'd want to give yourself ample headroom, and I think a 750W would be fine.

The peripherals etc came from your initial build.



That's just it though, the build isn't solely for gaming. Editing can utilize almost as much as you can throw at it (depending on the task & program, of course). Remember, 16GB hasn't been the recommended for very long in gaming either (last couple of years, even now to some degree "all you need is 8GB") whereas we are starting to see games take advantage or 8GB+ (although still not hitting 16GB).

If I were putting this much money into a rig, I'd want it to last a long time. With VR availability, 4K (even 8K) resolutions and high-end editing software, 32GB RAM being more 'mainstream' is probably only a few years away.

Whether the OP edits to actually need it, I don't know. But I wouldn't use a blanket statement "32GB RAM is useless", as that is totally incorrect. "Useless" to most, and in a lot of situations, yes. But not as a general rule.
 
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That's just it though, the build isn't solely for gaming. Editing can utilize almost as much as you can throw at it (depending on the task & program, of course). Remember, 16GB hasn't been the recommended for very long in gaming either (last couple of years, even now to some degree "all you need is 8GB") whereas we are starting to see games take advantage or 8GB+ (although still not hitting 16GB).
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I don't plan on recording or streaming games, I'm an artist, "editing" was probably a very bad choice of words, all of it will be done in photoshop.
 
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Ah, that changes things a bit then. Photoshop can utilize 16GB+ of RAM, but 16GB is likely fine.

Same with the CPU, while the 5930K is a great CPU, you're not likely to see the full-scale benefits of it, making the 6700K a better option.

I'd still suggest the Kraken X61 or Noctua NH-D15 for your cooling to allow healthy overclocks.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X61 106.1 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($114.99 @ B&H)
Motherboard: MSI Z170A Tomahawk AC ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($67.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($320.48 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($71.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 w/Window (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($83.89 @ OutletPC)
Keyboard: Corsair K70 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Logitech G502 Wired Optical Mouse ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1466.17
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-18 15:10 EDT-0400

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($88.46 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI Z170A Tomahawk AC ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($67.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($320.48 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($71.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 w/Window (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($83.89 @ OutletPC)
Keyboard: Corsair K70 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Logitech G502 Wired Optical Mouse ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1439.64
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-18 15:11 EDT-0400

Very similar in cost, would just depend whether you want AIO liquid, or air cooling.
 
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I've only ever had a stock cpu fan and would like to stick with air cooling.
Would the be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 be fine? The brushed aluminum matches my case.

The CPU, motherboard, and RAM are bundled on Newegg for $566; is there a huge difference in the motherboard you've suggested? I've decided to go with the $71 HDD you've suggested as well.

Updated parts list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Lhm9jX
 
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The Dark Rock Pro 3 is an ok cooler - nowhere near the best, but far from the worst. You're limiting your overclock potential a little bit, but you're the only one who can decide between aesthetics & performance.

For the motherboard, I was picking from MSI boards only (as they're known for a red/black colour scheme). That particular ASUS board is more of their 'entry level' option, but should work just fine for you.
 
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Would the extra $15 for the http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132565 make any difference?
 
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Thank you so much!

Now I have to figure out if all of the parts (especially the dark rock) will fit in my case.
 
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Just out of interest here, are you planning on sticking to 1080P or are you going to use VR or upgrade to 1440P or 4K? Because for that use a GTX 1080 is going to be major overkill.
 
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Yes, I plan on upgrading to a 4K tv, but, I can't find an inexpensive one that fits on my desk.
As I currently only have a single 970, I haven't had a need to upgrade my monitor.
 
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Why a TV? I think a 32" 4K monitor or a 1440P ultra wide would be a better purchase if they're not super expensive.
 
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A TV is easier to get, I live in a small town without any major electronic stores around. If I found a cheap one online I would be willing to buy it though, In-store is just easier.
 
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Yes, they deliver, but, I like to be able to see what I'm paying for when it comes to a monitor if that makes any sense.

EDIT: Monitor's are usually more expensive than a TV as well.

EDIT2: I'll probably make a new thread asking for a 32" monitor.
 
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If you have any recommendations for a less than $500 4k, at most 32", monitor; I'd be glad to hear it.
 
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