Need Advice on Budget 955 Build

tj223

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First I want to just give a big thanks to this community!! I use this site and forum as a reference almost daily.

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Approximate Purchase Date: Within 2 weeks

Budget Range: < $600

System Usage from Most to Least Important: HTPC, Gaming

Parts Not Required: Keyboard, Mouse, Monitor, Speakers, OS,

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com, TigerDirect.com

Country of Origin: USA

Parts Preferences: AMD CPU, Asus mobo, Corsair PSU

Overclocking: Yes, I want to be able to push the 955 to about 3.6-3.8

SLI or Crossfire: No

Monitor Resolution: 1600x900

Additional Comments:

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Case: $59.45
Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042


Mobo & CPU Combo: $209.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.681770

ASUS M4A87TD EVO AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131647

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103808


GPU: $59.99 (Already Purchased)
Visiontek 900310 Radeon HD 5670 Video Card - 1GB, GDDR5, PCI-Express 2.0 (x16), DVI, HDMI, VGA, DirectX 11
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=621465


Memory: $45.99
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277


HDD: $54.99 - $5.00 CC = $49.99
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185


DVD: $20.99
ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204


PSU: $69.99 - $20.00 MIR = $49.99
CORSAIR Builder Series CX600 V2 600W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139028



TOTAL: $496.38 + $10.45 Shipping = $506.83



Final Comments:

My main concerns are the PSU and Cooling.
PSU: Is that PSU enough/overkill for this build? (I don't mind spending a little more for a good psu.)
Cooling: If I want to OC the 955 to 3.6-3.8, will the stock fan be sufficient? If not, then any recommendations? Also how many extra case fans do I need, if any?


Any advice or suggestions are appreciated.
 

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First, the PSU is kinda Overkill, but you can leave it, since you can upgrade graphics cards later and stuff. You WILL need a aftermarket heatsink and fan to cool your CPU if you Overclock, the stock isn't enough. You can try the CoolerMaster Hyper 212 $50. And you don't need anymore fans for the case.

Just telling you, if you plan to upgrade to a better CPU in the future, you might want to buy an AM3+ MoBo instead.
 

tj223

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Ok, found a AM3+ Mobo. It is $10 more and I lose my combo deal, that's only a $25 total swing.

So adding these:

Mobo: $119.99
ASUS M5A97 EVO AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131757

CPU HS/Fan: $49.99
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 120mm CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

...brings the new total to: $606.82 - $35.00 (MIR) = $571.82

Still under budget. Any other suggestions?
 
The hyper 212 is a good midrange cooler .... but for $50 there are much better options . The Scythe Mugen probably the best choice
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185168

Definitely build using an AM3+ motherboard .
Watch the RAM voltage too . Stick to RAM that is rated at 1.5 volts

As it is you could run that system on a 450 watt psu easily . But the higher wattage unit might make less noise since the fan wont spin up as high
 

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For the amazon hyper 212+ make sure to check the other sellers as the one that is actually sold by amazon is 29.51 with free shipping. I would skimp on the processor and get the phenom II x3 720 and a board with the 990fx chipset (oh wait, I did do this, I got the sabertooth and the x3 I'll be getting them on the 13th).

Just get the cheapest DVD burner as it will work just as well: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289

I would buy two of these and have 8Gb 1600Mhz ram for $60: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231313&cm_re=g_skill_4gb-_-20-231-313-_-Product

Be sure to set up a new newegg account using a different email address and you can save another 10 bucks using promo code newcustomer10

I forgot to mention, the reason I only bought the x3 was because I didn't want to drop a bunch of money on a processor which I plan on replacing once bulldozer chips are released. The x3 has a pretty decent chance of being unlocked into a full phenom II x4 with its multiplier still unlocked since the x3 720 is a BE chip.
 

tj223

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I really appreciate all the help so far.

Ok, so now I am looking at these changes:

Mobo: $104.99
ASRock 970 EXTREME4 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157262

PSU: $54.99
Antec NEO ECO 520C 520W Continuous Power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030

RAM: $79.98
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9S-4GBRL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231313

Case: $99.98
COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN1-GP Black Steel + Plastic and Mesh Bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119197

HS/Fan: $49.99
Scythe SCMG-3000 120mm Heat Pipe CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185168


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Kinda getting lost and over budget. I lost pretty much all my combo deals.

Priorities
1 - Value - I want the most pc for $600. I am all about value, I will spend a little more if I am getting more for my money.
2 - Upgrade Ability - I don't want to be stuck with yesterday's technology.


New set of questions:

Mobo: Basically I want the best OC performance from a AM3+ mobo that I can get in the $100-$120 range.
Does the ASRock board fit that bill?

PSU: If I do change my mind one day and want to go with a Crossfire setup, will the 520W be enough?

HS/Fan: Still in the air on this one...
Will the CM 212 for $40 suit me fine?
Would I be getting a better "value" with the Scythe for $50?
Whats the best cooler under $60?

 

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MOBO- That is the newer version of Asrocks most recommended cf board with great features at a great price. I would def go with that one.

PSU-If you are just cf'ing the 5670's then yes it will be plenty, but if you use more powerful cards it would be pushing it.

The 212 for $30 is a great price. I would go with that one.
 

tj223

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Thanks zooted.

I feel good about the mobo and psu.

The 212 for $30 on amazon is out of stock. Says 1-3 months. It is in stock for $40.

That's why I am asking if it is still the best value at $40 or is there another option out there in the $40-$60 range?
 

tj223

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Ok thanks for the quick responses.

I found a combo deal so I am about to recheck my budget. But it is looking pretty close.

The new customer code that mlCaouette supplied might just tip the scale back under $600.

About to total it up again.
 

tj223

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After some crafty combo deals and adding the $10 discount, here is my new total:

$618.69 - $15.00 MIR = $603.69

I am very satisfied with this build.

I upgraded the mobo to the AM3+ and have CF support, went from 4gb -> 8gb ram, got a decent HS/Fan, and had room to splurge on the HAF 922 Case.

All that and only $4.00 over budget. Not bad.

Any other suggestions or issues I am overlooking?
 

tj223

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- Build Update -

Case:
COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN1-GP Black Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16811119197

Mainboard:
ASRock 970 EXTREME4 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813157262

CPU:
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103808

GPU:
Visiontek 900310 Radeon HD 5670 Video Card - 1GB, GDDR5, PCI-Express 2.0 (x16), DVI, HDMI, VGA, DirectX 11
https://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=621465

Memory:
2 x [G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory]
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820231313

HDD:
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185

DVD:
LITE-ON DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16827106289

PSU:
Antec NEO ECO 520C 520W Continuous Power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030



TOTAL: $603.69
 

tj223

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Ok maybe I should have started this thread with this info, but here's the plan.

I write a bunch of web apps in php and I have just started migrating to GAE because it is free and Python is incredibly easy. It just works.

Anyways, my ideal setup would be to have a Linux file/web server running all the time, for testing. While also streaming video to my 360, but also be able to get decent gaming performance.

But I can easily revive one of the 5 or 6 half dead machines I have lying around to be a dedicated server. 2 of them only need a psu. That would have to be way more cost efficient than dealing with making this the "ultimate" multitasker, right?

Just focus on one area?

So I pretty much just answered my own question.


@ shinobi: If they are nearly equal and I am leaving myself room to upgrade to the Bulldozer CPU's later, does it make more sense to just save a little now and upgrade later.