[SOLVED] Need advice on motherboard

[Dean0919]

Hello, I finally decided to upgrade my PC (it's not turning on anymore, plus it's quite old) and I decided to go with 16GB DDR4 RAM, i7 9700 and I can't decide on motherboards. Which one should I get Asus, Asrock or Gigabyte?
Here are models that are available for me to buy:

• Asus PRIME-Z390-A
• Gigabyte Z390 UD (rev. 1.0)
• ASRock Z390 Phantom Gaming 4S/ac

All these parts are second hand. They're giving 6 months guarantee. I will test PC before taking home.
P.S. I won't be overclocking.

 

[punkncat]

Of those three 'I think' the prime has the best power delivery. It really shouldn't matter for a 9700 non K or "won't be OC" usage.
I would pick the one with the best price and has the color combo you want, if said applies.

 

[Dj0gany]

For how much is the i7 9700 selling for?
Im sure it cant beat the price/performance ratio of the 10400F, which would be better for gaming.
Also a Z series motherboard for a locked cpu doesnt make sense to me.
Something like this is very hard to beat price wise:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-10400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor ($145.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B560 Pro4 ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($86.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $392.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-03-15 10:27 EDT-0400

The aftermarket cooler isnt needed, but it will keep it cooler while running quieter in comparison to the stock one.

 

[punkncat]

For how much is the i7 9700 selling for?
Im sure it cant beat the price/performance ratio of the 10400F, which would be better for gaming.
Also a Z series motherboard for a locked cpu doesnt make sense to me.
Something like this is very hard to beat price wise:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-10400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor ($145.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B560 Pro4 ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($86.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $392.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-03-15 10:27 EDT-0400

The aftermarket cooler isnt needed, but it will keep it cooler while running quieter in comparison to the stock one.

My assumption would be something along the lines of the sale that Microcenter has been running. Right at $200. They are still offering $20 off compatible mobo, so that (new) Prime is $159. Darned nice deal for a chip that still rates ~ the top 20-ish in speed and perf.

 

[Dean0919]

For how much is the i7 9700 selling for?
Im sure it cant beat the price/performance ratio of the 10400F, which would be better for gaming.
Also a Z series motherboard for a locked cpu doesnt make sense to me.
Something like this is very hard to beat price wise:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-10400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor ($145.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B560 Pro4 ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($86.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $392.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-03-15 10:27 EDT-0400

The aftermarket cooler isnt needed, but it will keep it cooler while running quieter in comparison to the stock one.

They're selling i7 9700 for 900 Georgian Lari which is $271.
I've seen i5 10400Fs too on that website, they are much cheaper, approximately for 600 Georgian Lari which is $180.

I checked on some websites and 9700 seems a bit more powerful. Are you saying that this i5 10400f is more powerful in gaming?
I usually game on my machine and want to upgrade.

 

[Dj0gany]

They're selling i7 9700 for 900 Georgian Lari which is $271.
I've seen i5 10400Fs too on that website, they are much cheaper, approximately for 600 Georgian Lari which is $180.

I checked on some websites and 9700 seems a bit more powerful. Are you saying that this i5 10400f is more powerful in gaming?
I usually game on my machine and want to upgrade.

"I checked on some websites and 9700 seems a bit more powerful "
Where have you seen that?
In head-to-head gaming benchmarks, they are the same.
The reason i would go for 10400F is future upgradability to Rocket Lake (although that currently doesnt seem like a worthwhile idea, but we will see) and its a newer socket packing newer features.

Not to mention its probably cheaper.

 

[punkncat]

They're selling i7 9700 for 900 Georgian Lari which is $271.
I've seen i5 10400Fs too on that website, they are much cheaper, approximately for 600 Georgian Lari which is $180.

I checked on some websites and 9700 seems a bit more powerful. Are you saying that this i5 10400f is more powerful in gaming?
I usually game on my machine and want to upgrade.

A 10400 isn't more powerful, but it is more recent.

CPU Benchmarks and Hierarchy 2021: Intel and AMD Processor Rankings and Comparisons | Tom's Hardware

The 9700K skew is the 16th fastest gaming chip in this list. The 10400 isn't even listed, so far as I see. The 10600K is several positions below it, and is (obviously) faster, and the 9400 IS listed a few below that. We can make an assumption that the 10400 lands somewhere inbetween, or so.

 

[Zerk2012]

They're selling i7 9700 for 900 Georgian Lari which is $271.
I've seen i5 10400Fs too on that website, they are much cheaper, approximately for 600 Georgian Lari which is $180.

I checked on some websites and 9700 seems a bit more powerful. Are you saying that this i5 10400f is more powerful in gaming?
I usually game on my machine and want to upgrade.

The 9700 has a faster clock speed and should be a bit better for gaming you will need to buy a decent cooler for it the stock coolers sux.

 

[Dean0919]

The 9700 has a faster clock speed and should be a bit better for gaming you will need to buy a decent cooler for it the stock coolers sux.

I have arctic freezer 34 esports

 

[Dean0919]

Ok guys I need advice then which is better for gaming, i7 9700 or it 10400f?

Which one should I buy?

 

[Dj0gany]

Ok guys I need advice then which is better for gaming, i7 9700 or it 10400f?

Which one should I buy?

How much us the price of 9700+mobo again?
What about ram?

 

[Dean0919]

How much us the price of 9700+mobo again?
What about ram?

i7 9700 - $270 + motherboards approximately $120 (Z390 ones). I think they have some cheap motherboards too, but they have only 2 slots for RAM and I don't want them.
RAM 16GB (two 8GB sticks) cost $75.

I'm thinking should I go with i5 10th generation CPU instead? It's new technology than 9th generation, but how much is difference in performance in gaming? 9700 or 10400f?

 

[Dj0gany]

i7 9700 - $270 + motherboards approximately $120 (Z390 ones). I think they have some cheap motherboards too, but they have only 2 slots for RAM and I don't want them.
RAM 16GB (two 8GB sticks) cost $75.

I'm thinking should I go with i5 10th generation CPU instead? It's new technology than 9th generation, but how much is difference in performance in gaming? 9700 or 10400f?

So:
9700: $470
10400F: $340
The performance is same in gaming. Give or take 2-3fps depending on the game between both cpu's.
I think you have your winner here.
BUTTTTT there is a 10700F for 270$ which would cost the same as the i7 9700, packing 8 more threads and it is better in gaming than both of the 9700/10400F

 

[Dean0919]

So:
9700: $470
10400F: $340
The performance is same in gaming. Give or take 2-3fps depending on the game between both cpu's.
I think you have your winner here.
BUTTTTT there is a 10700F for 270$ which would cost the same as the i7 9700, packing 8 more threads and it is better in gaming than both of the 9700/10400F

They have 10700F too, but in their shop it costs $355 and it's too much money, it's beyond my budget unfortunately

From memory sticks their cheapest ones are these two:

ADATA

ADATA Product

xpg.com

or

https://www.pny.com/anarchy-x-ddr4-red

I like PNY one better (by visuals), so I'll go with it if it's a good idea.

And from motherboards for 10th generation CPUs we have only 2 options:

• Gigabyte B460M AORUS ELITE (rev. 1.0) - $138
• Asrok H410M-HDV - $99

I think Gigabyte seems better option, yeah?

 

[Dj0gany]

They have 10700F too, but in their shop it costs $355 and it's too much money, it's beyond my budget unfortunately

From memory sticks their cheapest ones are these two:

ADATA

ADATA Product

xpg.com

or

https://www.pny.com/anarchy-x-ddr4-red

I like PNY one better (by visuals), so I'll go with it if it's a good idea.

And from motherboards for 10th generation CPUs we have only 2 options:

• Gigabyte B460M AORUS ELITE (rev. 1.0) - $138
• Asrok H410M-HDV - $99

I think Gigabyte seems better option, yeah?

Indeed it is.