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I'm running a GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Turbo 11G (Gigabyte) and need to upgrade my card. The question is this. What card should I upgrade to (under or at an 800.00 price range) that I can truly benefit from until I can upgrade my entire system, which might not be for quite some time?

Thank you.
 
The 1080ti is still more powerful than the 3060, 4060, 6600 XT, 6700XT, 7600....You are going to have to go North of $500 or more to get a better card. (the 6700XT and the 1080ti are VERY close in performance)

Depending on your system spec it may not benefit you at all to upgrade.

edit- as ohio mentions above, it also wouldn't be a bad idea to consider your monitor resolution and frame rate. If you are on a 1080/60 monitor there is even less reason to upgrade.
 
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A better question might be screen resolution and the types of games you want to play.

4070Ti would be the logical choice with that budget and wanting ray tracing. If you have less interest in ray-tracing, 7900XT might be a good choice. But you also don't have to spend that much as mentioned to get some improvement, or at least power efficiency gains.

RTX 4070 are very power efficient, and beat pretty much everything but the RTX 3080 10GB, which is pretty close depending on the title.
 
My PS is the EVGA 1000wtt supernova g3. As for configuration, I had it made for gaming purposes. My system was built back in 2017. Most of you are correct in investing in a new system instead of wasting money on one aspect of an older PC. The only issue these is pure economics at this moment.

Thank you for all your input.
 
Ranger_Vet1968 said:
2560x1440 (Native) with 240Hz. I was thinking maybe a 20 or 30-series GPU might do the trick until I build a new rig. Thoughts?
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I personally would not buy a used GPU due to the possibility it was used for cryptomining and/or may be faulty in which case you might not know it for some time after you buy it.

The RTX 3060 is in the same performance category with a GTX 1080 Ti. The RTX 4060 isn't very much ahead of that. I would suggest an RTX 4070 or RX 7800XT at least. The 4070 Ti if you want to max out your budget.
 
Hmm. Quad cores aren't exactly ideal these days and that motherboard has no upgrade path. Outperformed by a cheap i3-12100.

You could get a new DDR4 motherboard and an Intel 12/13/14th generation processor. 13th gen is the sweet spot of price to performance, though there are occasional good deals on 12th gen. (I got an i7-12700KF for $200 on Cyber Monday)

Or you could just go for it and get a DDR5 motherboard for AMD or Intel.

Nothing wrong with going piecemeal and getting the GPU today, as long as you plan to upgrade the core of the system in the next year or so, nothing wrong with that. I've done it a few times myself.

Bottlenecks are fleeting, and it all depends on what you are doing. If you crank the resolution and settings the CPU matters less. Though the 7700k will hold you back in some of the more recent multiplayer titles and other CPU intensive games.
 
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The 1080ti is still more powerful than the 3060, 4060, 6600 XT, 6700XT, 7600....You are going to have to go North of $500 or more to get a better card. (the 6700XT and the 1080ti are VERY close in performance)

Depending on your system spec it may not benefit you at all to upgrade.

edit- as ohio mentions above, it also wouldn't be a bad idea to consider your monitor resolution and frame rate. If you are on a 1080/60 monitor there is even less reason to upgrade.
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I'm not saying you're wrong, because it depends on the game, but according to TPU, the 1080 ti is about 21% slower than the 6700xt, not to mention that the 6700 xt has a marginal increase of VRAM.
 
Run this simple test to verify that a gpu upgrade would be useful to you:
Run YOUR games, but lower your resolution and eye candy.
This makes the graphics card loaf a bit.
If your FPS increases, it indicates that your cpu is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration.
If your FPS stays the same, you are likely more cpu limited.

What is the make/model of your psu?
It needs to be strong enough to support your gpu upgrade.

When upgrading a gpu, make it a significant jump or you may be disappointed.
Look for a card that is at least one tier higher on tom's gpu hierarchy chart:
www.tomshardware.com

GPU Benchmarks and Hierarchy 2023: Graphics Cards Ranked

We've run hundreds of GPU benchmarks on Nvidia, AMD, and Intel graphics cards and ranked them in our comprehensive hierarchy.
www.tomshardware.com www.tomshardware.com

Since you now use nvidia, stick with nvidia as an upgrade.
Things will be simpler and at any price point performance differences between nvidia and amd are not great.
 
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I'm not saying you're wrong, because it depends on the game, but according to TPU, the 1080 ti is about 21% slower than the 6700xt, not to mention that the 6700 xt has a marginal increase of VRAM.
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I see everything from a very marginal 3% to upwards of 20%, as you mention. Really, like anything AMD vs. there tends to be a lot of opinion (would be a good way to put it) on which tests are run to reflect which result that particular site wants to represent.

Even at a 20% increase in performance, without a frame counter on, or a synthetic benchmark being run it is commonly said that seat of the pants needs to be about 30% better performance to perceive. That is also quite unscientific....

If it were a situation where this person didn't already own and know the history of the 1080 ti then it wouldn't even be a question, IMO. However, when you are going to put out to pasture a card as capable as the 1080 ti, it isn't going to be on a budget model.
 
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My PSW is the EVGA 1000wtt supernova g3. In ALL the game titles in the last 2-3 years, I place most, if not all, at medium to low. When I take down the resolution, everything in the game becomes significantly larger, and objects in the distance become very hard to see. It's the newer games like Starfield where my game will crash within 30-40 minutes of gameplay due to my graphics card. At least, that's the error message I get when I look at my event viewer. So this is what I'm thinking. I'm guessing I will need to spend north of 3500 to build a new unit. And if and when I do so, I'm thinking about going AMD with both the CPU and GPU.
 
Interesting. If that is what you are doing, then you are Frames Per Second focused, which says you should be looking for a fast CPU, and a relatively lower end GPU. Though Starfield does demand a fairly good GPU.

Those crashes could mean an issue with the GPU, try underclocking the memory a little as a first step. Then consider imposing a lower power limit to keep temperatures in check. Sometimes that is all it takes to bring a GPU back. You might also consider flashing the vBIOS, as they can get corrupted every once in a while (Also might be some worthwhile updates buried in there)
 
The error I get from the event viewer is as follows:
Event ID 0 from source nvlddmkm cannot be found. Which I always find odd. All the drivers are up to date on the GPU and Windows itself. Usually, after I get that error message, I boot into safe mode and use DDU to clean out the driver thoroughly, then reboot back into safe mode once again to install the GPU Drivers. When you speak of underclocking the memory and lowering the power, what numbers (I use MSI Afterburner) should I start to use?
 
Numbers that are lower than stock. Test for stability, and if you are satisfied, leave it like that.

System memory issues can also cause graphics drivers to crash. Run memtestx86 to see if there are any issues there.
 
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