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Hello i need help i am new to building a desktop so i wanted to know if the build i made would be sufficient for gaming here is the link:http://pcpartpicker.com/p/rpXDkL
 
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I am personally an Intel guy so I do not have much experience with AMD; however, the build looks pretty solid. What are you going to put the parts in though? I did not see a case listed on your parts picker.

I would also get a Hyper 212 Evo instead of the plus. Only a couple dollars more and you get a better product.

If you can budget it, I would also choose a R9 280x or 290 for much better video performance.
 
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As you are getting a GPU, there is no point getting an APU. It's better to get something like an i3 4330. It is more expensive but it has superior performance. The Hyper 212 Plus is only slightly worse than the 212 Evo, so much it is not noticable. That $5 you save could go towards the CPU. I would also recommend getting a SSD for a boot drive for better boot times
 
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If you wanted to stick with a CPU that has physical cores, then go for an i5 if you go Intel. The build that you listed should be more than sufficient for games; however, I still stick with what I said and when you are only talking a couple of dollars differences, even a marginal cooling difference can mean a lot, especially if you overclock. The price to performance ratio really does not matter at that point when it is only a couple of dollars difference.

What kind of budget are you working with here?
 
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In that area, it would not make any sense to get an i3 either as it sports on board video. If you want to go that route then go with a Xeon. I do agree with you on the SSD though. I would get around a 240GB drive for a boot / program install drive. However, even with a standard 7200 rpm drive in my rig, I still boot into Windows in less than 11 seconds and all of my programs are still snappy. A clean install and proper installations will help you more than any SSD can.

 
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Dude, do not get an i3 over the A10! The i3 is a dual core processor and it does NOT have superior performance. Since you are new to building I will forewarn you that there are kids/teenagers online that believe everything they read (and have no real world experience) regarding Intel and AMD CPUs. If you buy an i3 over the A10 6800k, I have a bridge to nowhere to sell you. LOL

He is right in one regard. Since you are getting a GPU, I would personally get the FX-6300 instead (same price). You would also need to change motherboards though for the AM3+ socket. Also, it has 6 cores and 6 threads and 6MB of L3 cache, which helps in games. Here is a link to an compatible motherboard in the same price range:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131872&cm_re=am3-_-13-131-872-_-Product

Not to say the A10-6800k won't push your GPU. It is just for the price you can do better (unless you were not buying a GPU, then the A10 all the way)!

Happy Building!
 
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i agree with what Kira stated. Except in one regard, the SSD. My old PC had a HDD and it booted up fast also (on a side note, any relatively new system with new parts and Win8 is going to boot up fast). However, on my new beast rig, I have an SSD with Win8.1, Office and productivity apps and the difference is remarkable. Booting up and getting to the start screen is one thing. Actually being able to run programs the second the start screen appears is another!
 
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Between only running one GPU and getting the CM Hyper Evo, your cooling should be fine. Just be sure to install the fans wherever the case allows. That means 1 exhaust on back and 1 exhaust on top. Also, one or two side panel fan(s) will go a long way in not only keeping your GPU cool but also the ambient temperature in your entire case. Although one 270x does not have overheating issues.
 
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What if i get a second 270x will i need to get a better psu?
 
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Haha Titan, I think that we are following each other around the forums. I agree that an i3 may not be as powerful; however, even though it is a dual core, you can still get hyperthreaded versions. Many programs and games at this point are taking advantage of more thread / cores but comparing the two is a moot point as the one has four physical cores and the other has two physical / 2 threads. The i3 can be a pretty little potent CPU for entry level gaming machines.
 
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Just to be safe you could always get a 600w or a 750w. I have always used and prefer Corsair PSUs. This would also allow for expansion if you wish to upgrade in the future. Power supplies are one of those things that you can transfer between builds as long as it has the cable expansion that you need. Always invest in a good quality PSU. Apart from a quality motherboard, it is one of the most important items in your rig.
 
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Yes. The PSU you are getting most likely will not even have the additional two 6-pin cables necessary for two graphics cards. I can speak from personal experience as my new rig has two XFX R9-270x GPUs.

I initially purchased a quality PSU (XFX Pro series 750 watt 80 gold cert). However, it ran extremely hot and began to smell like burning plastic/copper and the fan would squeal really loud. So I got an 1300 watt PSU for future upgrades. I also had to purchase another case that had a VGA side panel fan option to keep them cool (they would shoot up to 84 degrees then throttle down).

I would personally recommend a 750 watt power supply for your rig. According to the specs of the 270x, you only need 600 watts for Crossfire. That way, you can either get another 270x or upgrade to a single 280x/290x (or Nvidia equivalent).
 
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Okay i will change the psu later but can you tell me what case i have so i can check if all the parts will fit?
 
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You would be far better off with this.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($187.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($86.66 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Fury Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($72.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.92 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB Dual-X Video Card ($188.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($54.24 @ Amazon)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill N600PCE 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($24.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $668.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
 
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I did not see a case on your parts list. However, you can fit all of your parts in either a mid tower or full tower. The difference between a mid and full are only a few inches. However, those inches are the difference maker when trying to insert a large graphics card. Nevertheless, you could go with either a mid tower or full tower. It depends on your current budget and future upgrading plans. Most mid towers get the job done. Here are some pointers when looking for any case:

1. Maker sure the case (either mid or full) has a raised back panel. This way, you have room to route your cables behind the back plate.
2. Maker sure the case (either mid or full) has a cut-out for the heat sink back plate. It will be a large square-shaped hole in the middle of the case when viewing it with the side panel removed. This way, you can install/uninstall heat sinks without taking out the entire motherboard.
3. If possible, get a case that has an option for a side panel fan (e.g. the fan in the window). This way, your graphics card(s) stays cool.
4. If you get the CM Hyper Evo 212, make sure the case is large enough. Although it should fit in most mid towers. I first bought a mid tower case, and I did not have any problems fitting the CM Hyper Evo 212.
5. Make sure the case has 120mm, 140mm or 200mm fan options for best cooling options. Stay away from 80 mm fans.

Hope this helps. Go to Newegg---Computer Hardware---Computer Cases to search for some mid and full tower cases for your budget! :)
 
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I agree with all of these points. A case that I personally use and have used many times is the Corsair Carbide 400r. For the most part this case has enough room for cable management, has plenty of room for fans, and has enough space inside to accommodate a large air cooler, and can still fit long graphics cards.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139008&cm_re=carbide_400r-_-11-139-008-_-Product

The hard drive bays do not require any tools or adapters to fit either a SSD or regular 3.5" drive which is a great touch.

 
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I've decided to use this and wanted to thank you.
 
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So you are saying you would pay the same amount for an inferior APU, that you could pay for a far better i5 rig? Get off the AMD kool aid. I am far from being on Intel's payroll. I have two i5 systems and two FX 8320 rigs. Thank you Microcenter. 😀 I am a value shopper. An i5 systems for only like $2 difference vs an APU system is a no brainer. My i5 2400 was given to me by a friend, all I had to do was buy the board. My 3570k was a Microcenter deal and was a case of needing something same day, and I was not going to go from an i5 2400 to a faildozer in my gaming rig. Piledriver based chips were not out at the time, when I bought it. I probably would have bought one if they had been.
 
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Boy you are "extra sensitive" in the morning! LOL Don't get your panties in a bunch!

Have you ever owned an APU? Have you ever gamed on one? If not, how are you so sure it is an "inferior" product. If you have never owned, tested, benchmarked with the APU, then everything you are saying is just YOUR OPINION. You have no personal firsthand experience in the matter. You just go with what the majority of people say online.

I own an A10-5700 and when I paired it with a r9-270x, I gamed on BF3 on Ultra settings and averaged around 60 fps (no AA). If I turned down the texture quality to high, I would average 70 fps (with a A10)! The Witcher 2 played between 50 to 60 fps on all Ultra/high setting enabled (uber sampling disabled). I had an i5 CPU at my old job office, and I could not notice the difference (it was in i5-3000 series). They were both great CPUs.

So untie your panties and stop taking it personal when someone calls out your Intel selling practices. Geesh!
 
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The CPU, of an APU, is inferior to an i5. That is just fact. The 750k, @ 4.2ghz, starts to bottleneck once you get into the R9 270/270x range. An i5 4460 can handle any single card GPU you throw at it. I want an APU, but only want a Kabini based rig for HTPC. For a gaming rig, I wouldn't want one. I'd be better off going to Microcenter and picking up an FX 6300 and GA-78LMT-USB3 for about $121 after tax. It is not that I hate AMD. I just see no value in an APU rig. I have often said to people on a budget, that if they live near a Microcenter, go with the AMD. The motherboard bundle is impossible to ignore, hence why I own two FX 8320's and GA-78LMT-USB3's. The board is good enough for FX 8350 speed and for what the systems were used for. Black Friday $100 special plus motherboard discount was impossible to resist. One was an upgrade of my old Phenom II X2 560 rig, the other one was for a new build of mostly left over parts. Again, I am a value shopper, and I see no value in an APU for a gaming rig.
 
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Like I said, you have never owned an APU. So your opinion is NOT A FACT! It is just an opinion. I gave performance measurements with a quad core A10 paired with a higher end card. And just because you can't see the value in a quad A10-6800k for around $100 that CAN push most (not all of course) higher end cards, then you just can't see it then. Not to say it cannot run any single card, but it will not be the same performance of a higher end CPU (that goes for the i5 series also).

But just because you can't see the value, does not make it a fact or bolster your opinions/how you feel about the chip that you openly admitted to having NO experience in! That's my point. Persons online making suggestions as fact when they in fact have no personal experience to testify it is a fact.

How can you say one football or basketball player is better than another when you haven't even seen one of the players play??????? If you have never even seen one of those players, then you are just basing your opinions on what others say who is the best between two atheltes.
 
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