Need help building a 1000$ CAD Gaming Pc

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Hello, I am currently trying to find the best parts for a one thousand dollar CAD pc right now and I would love to have the communities help with it if you could that would be great. I am looking for a Ryzen 5 build and at least GTX 1050Ti. When helping please use pc part picker for the lists

This is what I have currently:
[PCPartPicker part list](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/mzwRhy) / [Price breakdown by merchant](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/mzwRhy/by_merchant/)
 
Nov 12, 2018
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Hey I can recommand this one:
[PCPartPicker part list](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Vw6h8Y) / [Price breakdown by merchant](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Vw6h8Y/by_merchant/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8 GHz 6-Core Processor](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/LHYWGX/intel-core-i5-8400-28ghz-6-core-processor-bx80684i58400) | $248.99 @ PC-Canada
**CPU Cooler** | [Cooler Master - Hyper 212 LED 66.3 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/YdJkcf/cooler-master-hyper-212-led-663-cfm-rifle-bearing-cpu-cooler-rr-212l-16pr-r1) | $33.25 @ Vuugo
**Motherboard** | [ASRock - Z370 Killer SLI/ac ATX LGA1151 Motherboard](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/FMJkcf/asrock-z370-killer-sliac-atx-lga1151-motherboard-z370-killer-sliac) |-
**Memory** | [G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/qGqbt6/gskill-memory-f43200c16d16gvgb) | $164.99 @ Newegg Canada
**Storage** | [ADATA - XPG SX6000 256 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/2JVD4D/adata-xpg-sx6000-256gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-asx6000np-256gt-c) | $64.99 @ Canada Computers
**Storage** | [Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/CbL7YJ/seagate-barracuda-2tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st2000dm006) | $67.99 @ Powertop
**Video Card** | [EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6 GB GAMING Video Card](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/pbL7YJ/evga-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-gaming-video-card-06g-p4-6161-kr) | $359.00 @ Canada Computers
**Case** | [Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/FCs8TW/phanteks-eclipse-p300-tempered-glass-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-ec300ptgbk) | $79.99 @ Amazon Canada
**Power Supply** | [SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/bkp323/seasonic-focus-plus-gold-550w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ssr-550fx) | $100.99 @ PC-Canada
| *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
| **Total** | **$1120.19**
| Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2018-12-02 19:39 EST-0500 |
(you could change to a 1050ti or 1060 3gb and remove the cpu fan which will get you to 1000 cad)
 
Please let me know if you also need to include a monitor, mouse, keyboard, or any other peripherals in this build.

But for just a system and nothing else, here's what you get.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Memory Express)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($139.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($67.95 @ shopRBC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.99 @ Powertop)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3 GB Mini Video Card ($278.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop)
Case: BitFenix - Comrade ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.88 @ Canada Computers)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 620 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($65.38 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $1005.16
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-02 21:04 EST-0500
 
Here is the list:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Memory Express)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($77.63 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($72.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Crucial - BX500 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($53.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Canada Computers)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB Video Card ($449.97 @ Amazon Canada)
Case: Corsair - SPEC-05 ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $1079.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-03 03:18 EST-0500

Best performance for budget. You can add second RAM stick in future when you have enough to upgrade. This will perform lot better nearly 35-40% better than GTX1060 and 60% better than GTX1050Ti.
 


that would be grossly incorrect good sir.
A single stick of 8GB is not only not enough RAM to handle more modern AAA titles and newer ones to come, and it's single channel which will hurt the CPU performance significantly which will severely hold back the GPU performance and hurt the frame rates. Making spending all that money on a 1070 a waste.

From what I can tell, you decided to sacrifice amount of RAM, quality in motherboard, quality in SSD, lower HDD size, and chose a much cheaper quality PSU just to slap a GTX 1070 in there.

This is not good PC build practice and is overall not a good allocation of funds.

If you are going to go with a cheaper SSD, then ADATA is the way to go, not the BX500.

Corsair CXM power supplies are bad. While you can get lucky on occasion and get one that was good, like 90% of them are just bad.

The microATX board is of lower quality and can't handle overclocking the CPU hardly at all. Like maybe up to 3.6Ghz but that's about it.

Not trying to bash on you or bring you down. Just trying to better inform you so you can have a better understanding of what it is you are putting into a system.

Also, no. You CANNOT just add another stick of RAM later on.
This is bad because there is no guarantee that the RAM will work together since they didn't come in the same kit.
So it ends up being a gamble if the two sticks will even work together at all and if they don't then the buyer is screwed out of the money they just spent on that second stick.

And your claim about it performing 35-40% faster than a GTX 1060 I can only say is in regards to the GPU's compared to each other by themselves and not for the system as a whole due to the things I've mentioned above about single channel RAM and the overclocking potential of that motherboard along with the fact that overclocking potential is heavily attributed to RAM as well and single channel just ain't gonna cut it.

Please, for your own sake and the sake of others you plan on giving component buying suggestions too, do some research and learn some more about how these things work before you end up convincing someone to spend their money on something that ends up being not worth the money they spent.

And again, don't take this the wrong way. I just feel you have a bit of learning to do is all so that you can become better at build suggestions and more knowledgeable in PC hardware so that you can be better equipped to help others, especially when it involves telling them what to spend a large amount of money on.
 


I know how single channel will hurt performance specially Ryzen which is bit fall but not comparatively big as the performance gained from GPU upgrade. When it comes to adding second stick in future as long as it is from same lineup and of same speed then the chance of not working is very low specially with Crucial and Corsair. I have done many builds in which I have included only one stick of RAM and upgraded it later by adding RAM from same model line and with same memory speed. All of them are working fine with no problem at all.

Corsair CXM PSUs the new ones are really good please check the reviews, probably you got confused by old series or CX series.

SSD ADATA is also good, SanDisk is an option too.

MicroATX board is of low quality is not true at all. MicroATX board is as good as ATX no problem with few less features which are not used anyway.

Yes the performance improvement is based on GPU to GPU comparison. For system to system(i5-8600K|GTX1060 vs R5-2600|GTX1070) it will around 20-25%(single channel) better which is still a decent performance gain and 30-35%(dual channel) which is again huge.

Trust me I know what I am listing and why I am providing a list the way I do. I always try to provide best performance possible for the limit of the budget. If I had to include dual channel memory I had to pull down on performance of GPU or cut down on quality of the build, in both the cases it will not last long. But if I cut down by providing single stick of memory which can be easily upgraded by adding second stick which is not very expensive upgrade and very easy one. Just imaging If I had to cut down on performance will it easier to upgrade expensive GPU over shorter period of time or will it be easy to add in second memory stick which is comparatively lot cheaper and easy install.
 
not saying microATX is low quality. Just that specific one compared to the two cheap mATX MSI options. That's all. and the MSI options are only a few bucks more.

And I understand that adding in a second stick later usually ends up working out. Just not a good idea to take the risk IMO.

and yes, I was thinking it was one of the older corsair PSU's.

However, for that price, you could get a 750w fully modular 80+ Gold Seasonic FOCUS series PSU which is tier 2.

also, I didn't notice it earlier, but you chose a 1070 that costs more than it should.
can totally go with one of the cheaper 1070's

But for about the same amount of money that your build costs I was able to put together this
Something must've changed to make things cheaper somewhere.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($91.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($124.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($74.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8 GB DUKE Video Card ($429.99 @ Newegg Business)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1071.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-03 05:36 EST-0500
 
Of course now, if I lower the RAM speed down to 3000Mhz, the SSD to 250GB, the motherboard to mATX, the PSU to a slightly lower quality but still reliable one, and the case to a smaller one that costs $10 less than the focus g, we are able to maintain the 16GB of RAM, 2TB HDD, and the 1070Ti for less than the 1K budget.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI - B450M PRO-M2 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($69.73 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($52.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8 GB DUKE Video Card ($429.99 @ Newegg Business)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 620 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($54.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $977.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-03 05:44 EST-0500

If we bring the PSU quality back up it goes up to about $3 past the 1K budget.

[PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI - B450M PRO-M2 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($69.73 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($52.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8 GB DUKE Video Card ($429.99 @ Newegg Business)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1002.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-03 05:43 EST-0500
 


He needs Canadian Parts list. Probably you did no notice that your PCPP page got turned into US. Please check and re-submit or edit the list.
 
Ok. So I decided to go out on a limb and make a few different choices.

Decided that the case can be cheaped out on, and the SSD can be lowered to 120GB since it's only for OS and main small apps anyways.
Lowering the HDD to 1TB for games and files and going with the cheaper but still reliable S12II, I could get the 16GB of RAM.
Overall quality of the build is solid with no sacrifice in performance and in fact a gain because of the extra RAM.
Matching the price of your build.

I always feel weird though going past the budget people give though. Doesn't feel right to me. Especially since I tend to try and treat the budget as a hard budget that should include taxes and stuff when applicable.

but anywho, here's what I've put together in the attempt to maintain the 1070 while keeping the 16GB of RAM and an SSD in the build.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Memory Express)
Motherboard: MSI - B450M PRO-M2 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($91.99 @ PC-Canada)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($139.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU650 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($29.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Canada Computers)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB Video Card ($449.97 @ Amazon Canada)
Case: Rosewill - FBM-X1 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($19.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 620 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($65.38 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $1077.29
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-03 06:18 EST-0500
 


That case is hard to work in. Even Corsair 100R is lot better than that.

That Seasonic PSU no doubt is good and very decent but is no more recommended due to its aging. It still packs in old design with few flaws so it it better if it can be avoided. Otherwise that was once my recommended PSU.

120GB SSD makes no sense. Instead it is better to skip it completely. Or include 240GB SSD and skip HDD for time being.

I am not against MSI as a brand in whole but I recommend to stay away from their Mobos. For a matter of fact even ASRock is better than MSI. MSI makes great GPUs and Gaming Laptops but don't know why when it comes to boards their QC is very bad(saying it by having bad experience from multiple generations of boards over long period of time). ASUS and Gigabyte are best for Mobos followed by ASRock and EVGA.
 
Here is the list:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Memory Express)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($77.63 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($139.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU650 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB Video Card ($449.97 @ Amazon Canada)
Case: Corsair - 100R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Corsair)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Memory Express)
Total: $1077.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-03 07:28 EST-0500

HDD can be added in few months no problem. High quality components. ASRock board is not bad at all. If you still doubt it go with Gigabyte board from below.
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($93.99 @ PC-Canada)
 
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Thank you guys so much for your advice one more thing I would need help with is airflow in the pc and I know most cases only come with a few and the configurations would mess me up a little bit so configurations and good cheap fans would help me to thank you very much.
 
I would totally go with Gigabyte for Ryzen CPU's. They just cost a bit more is all. But totally worth it.
As for airflow, you can get whatever 120mm fans you want and put them into the case.
If I were to personally recommend you anything, I would end up telling you to get something that's pretty expensive.
As well as the fact that if you really want good quality airflow in a case, you gotta pay about twice as much for something like the Meshify C from Fractal Design and then buying 4 more of the Dynamic X2 GP-12 120mm fans to fill all the vent spaces in the case for full case airflow. Those fans being the cheapest I would recommend while at the same time because those are the exact fans that you get two of that come with the case.

So honestly, take a look at the specs sheet of whatever case you decide to buy, and see how many fans it comes with, and how many extra fans you will need to fill the case and buy those size fans.
 

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