Build Advice Need Help Building New Gaming PC

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As title says, need help building a gaming PC. I have a budget around $1,400 more or less. This is the build i am thinking about, but feel free to give suggestions and or make changes to the build.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZDKr6R

I don't have a case on their as iam looking for one with good airflow so that is why i haven't added one yet.

PS: Was thinking of going with AMD, but someone said not too as Ryzen chip Motherboard BIOSEs are Garbage. Here is exactly what he said:

Personally, I would avoid the RYZENS at this stage. Im a big AMD CPU fan but the RYZEN chip Motherboard BIOSEs are Garbage. AMD implemented PCIE Gen4 and has been having to disable that now. Then each version of the chip requires a different AEGIS (something like that) version. This means they cannot make a Unified BIOS due to limited space and you have to really researh which BIOS is needed for the Ryzen generation...right now 1.0.0.3 abba is for the Ryzen 3xxx but not all motherboard have it. The Ryzen 2xxx needs an older BIOS but the AEGIS numbers are not in numerical order, so it might be like a 1.0.0.8 (just example) so the BIOS does not tell you anything other than 1.0.0.3 abba and a lot of people update the bios like they do their drivers and create yet another issue.
 
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Do you already have a case? Nothing wrong with AMD, I’d actually advise you to go with them.
Sorry about that, no case either. I am looking for one with good airflow so that is why i haven't added one yet.

This is what the guy on another forum said about AMD.

Personally, I would avoid the RYZENS at this stage. Im a big AMD CPU fan but the RYZEN chip Motherboard BIOSEs are Garbage. AMD implemented PCIE Gen4 and has been having to disable that now. Then each version of the chip requires a different AEGIS (something like that) version. This means they cannot make a Unified BIOS due to limited space and you have to really researh which BIOS is needed for the Ryzen generation...right now 1.0.0.3 abba is for the Ryzen 3xxx but not all motherboard have it. The Ryzen 2xxx needs an older BIOS but the AEGIS numbers are not in numerical order, so it might be like a 1.0.0.8 (just example) so the BIOS does not tell you anything other than 1.0.0.3 abba and a lot of people update the bios like they do their drivers and create yet another issue.
 
Some thoughts:

  1. 9700K is as good as it gets for gaming. The same $ spent on a ryzen 3000 series would be equally good.
  2. I really think you should spend perhaps a bit more for a Z390 based motherboard. That will allow you to overclock the K.
That can be done easily via the intel performance maximizer app if you have a Z390.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-cpu-auto-overclock-performance-maximizer,6179.html

3. I am not a fan of aio liquid cooling.
If you have a case with 160mm height available, a good air cooler will do the job.

4. What will be your case?
I use a silverstone TJ-08E which holds my parts, cools well and is quite small.
See my sig.

5. On storage, my suggestion is to buy a 1tb ssd and omit the HDD.
It is easy to add another drive later if you run out of room.
You can buy an intel 660P 1tb pcie m.2 drive for about $100.
 
This is what I would recommend. You could also spend more on hardware by not paying that much for windows. Windows can be used for free. It can also be purchased pretty cheap but most advise against it, however I paid $15 for my copy and have never had an issue.

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ydsBZf

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($309.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($97.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card ($403.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.95 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.89 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($144.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1416.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-10 17:21 EST-0500
 
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@bmockeg has done you a nice build there, I would just give the option of going for a faster graphics card and dropping to a 6c/12t cpu. My reasoning is that gpu power is king for gaming and the cpu is good enough. The motherboard has nice audio and lan but less IO than x570 but saves you money. 3200 ram cas 14 just as good as 3600 cas 16. The gpu is one of the few that is faster than a 1080ti woot:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($194.00 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC ATX AM4 Motherboard ($139.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Team Dark Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($119.98 @ Amazon)
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB Video Card ($699.99 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.89 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($11.74)
Total: $1385.57
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-10 20:12 EST-0500

Also I advise to buy a Windows key I have used them around a dozen times and never had an issue
However both builds are valid and good I think just wanted to give my opinion.
 

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I asked if i could get help building a new PC, but maybe i should ask if by upgrading mine it would still be solid. I have a i5 4690K with a 1080 FTW GPU and 8 GB of RAM, but the MB will need to be replaced as two channels for my RAM have stopped working.

If you do not think upgrading my PC would make it solid again, would you all recommend building a new PC i take it?
 
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@bmockeg has done you a nice build there, I would just give the option of going for a faster graphics card and dropping to a 6c/12t cpu. My reasoning is that gpu power is king for gaming and the cpu is good enough. The motherboard has nice audio and lan but less IO than x570 but saves you money. 3200 ram cas 14 just as good as 3600 cas 16. The gpu is one of the few that is faster than a 1080ti woot:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($194.00 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC ATX AM4 Motherboard ($139.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Team Dark Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($119.98 @ Amazon)
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB Video Card ($699.99 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.89 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($11.74)
Total: $1385.57
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-10 20:12 EST-0500

Also I advise to buy a Windows key I have used them around a dozen times and never had an issue
However both builds are valid and good I think just wanted to give my opinion.
Not a terrible suggestion but an 8 core will last longer before it gets bogged down and a 2080 super gives 30% more FPS at 75% more cost. Not worth it imo.
 
I asked if i could get help building a new PC, but maybe i should ask if by upgrading mine it would still be solid. I have a i5 4690K with a 1080 FTW GPU and 8 GB of RAM, but the MB will need to be replaced as two channels for my RAM have stopped working.

If you do not think upgrading my PC would make it solid again, would you all recommend building a new PC i take it?
Id build a new one for sure.
 
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No reason not to keep that 1080 for now though. I’d try that 3700x or even a 3900x if you are thinking really long term and that should give you a pretty decent boost. That 1080 should do you fine for another 6 months to a year and you can grab an even better GPU.
 
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No reason not to keep that 1080 for now though. I’d try that 3700x or even a 3900x if you are thinking really long term and that should give you a pretty decent boost. That 1080 should do you fine for another 6 months to a year and you can grab an even better GPU.
In that case i guess i could just get the AMD CPU, new MB and more RAM and i can keep the rest. I have a Corsair CX600M PSU, would that be enough?

Later i could grab another 1080 and SLI it with this one right, or should i get a better one down the road?
 
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In that case i guess i could just get the AMD CPU, new MB and more RAM and i can keep the rest. I have a Corsair CX600M PSU, would that be enough?

Later i could grab another 1080 and SLI it with this one right, or should i get a better one down the road?
Case would be fine. Power supply will work, but I’m not a fan of bronze PSU, especially for good components. 600 watts will be fine, but I’d look into getting a quality gold PSU from seasonic, Corsair TX or RM, EVGA G3 are good too.
 

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Well it is getting to the point where i should just build a new PC, and sell this one to get some of my money back i would say.

If i do just upgrade some of the components, Any suggestions for a good case with good airflow?
 
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This is what I would recommend. You could also spend more on hardware by not paying that much for windows. Windows can be used for free. It can also be purchased pretty cheap but most advise against it, however I paid $15 for my copy and have never had an issue.

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ydsBZf

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($309.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($97.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card ($403.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.95 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.89 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($144.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1416.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-10 17:21 EST-0500
Where would i get a Win 10 for the same price you did?
 

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