Question Need Help Choosing Between Two All in Ones

[BooBoo00]

Hi all, for space reasons and ease of use for everyone in the home I was looking to replace an old Dell all in one with something new. For price and needs (which are pretty basic but I would like to play WoW and FFXIV on it) it looks like two options would be the best possibly. The first is a Dell 24 Inch Touchscreen All in One (AIO) PC Computer, 8GB DDR4 RAM, Windows 11, Intel Core i3-1215U, 256GB SSD, FHD 1080p Display, Intel UHD Graphics, HDMI, Intel Wi-Fi 6E, Inspiron 5410. It looks like that can go up to an Intel core i5-1235. The second option was an HP 24" All-in-One Desktop, AMD Ryzen 7 5700U, 16 GB, 256 GB SSD & 1 TB Hard Drive, Full HD.

I don't really know what any of that means! For example, any key differences between Intel or Ryzen. But between the two which is going to provide the smoothest mild gaming I plan on doing and will have a bit of longevity. Also if anyone thinks there are better options in that price range, $800-%900 or so, then I am open to any suggestions. Thanks!

 

[Eximo]

Well, long term an i3 is not going to be ideal. The 5700U is a much more powerful processor.

Both have pretty low end integrated graphics.

I will shop around a bit in that price range.

 

[letmepicyou]

From your post, you have indicated that you'd like to do some gaming on your PC.
Welcome to the family.
The first thing I have to hardily recommend, is that if you'd like to get into PC gaming, that you build your own computer.
First off, the quality of components can be much higher when you build it yourself. OEM makers use parts "good enough" to do the job. For the warranty period. Usually.
Second, you can tailor your machine to your own needs.
There really is no "voodoo magic" to building your own computer. I've been doing it for 35+ years. Long gone is the day you can install a memory chip backwards.
And, luckily, there are a MYRIAD of guides, from web pages to YouTube videos, including many here at Tom's, that will literally hand hold you step by step through the entire process, from selecting components which are compatible with one another, to putting them all together, to installing windows and getting it running.
And, lots of places you can get help if you have questions.

You're going to want a decently powerful CPU, and you're going to want a decent GPU (graphics card) as well. There are 2 "torture tests" for computers that push them to their limits: video gaming, and video editing. Everything else is meh as far as computing power is concerned.

 

[Eximo]

I think that AIO you found is about the best for the money. $830

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Desktop-Touchscreen-Keyboard-24-cb0090/dp/B09FXDPWG8

Vega 8 integrated graphics is better than pretty much all integrated Intel graphics available in the price range. Not to mention the CPU is the biggest.



As an alternative, a cheap refurb desktop with a GPU:

https://www.newegg.com/hp-pavilion-tp01-1127c-business-desktops-workstations/p/1VK-001E-4FE70

https://www.newegg.com/asus-vy249he-24-full-hd/p/N82E16824281209

 

[BooBoo00]

I think that AIO you found is about the best for the money. $830

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Desktop-Touchscreen-Keyboard-24-cb0090/dp/B09FXDPWG8

Vega 8 integrated graphics is better than pretty much all integrated Intel graphics available in the price range. Not to mention the CPU is the biggest.



As an alternative, a cheap refurb desktop with a GPU:

https://www.newegg.com/hp-pavilion-tp01-1127c-business-desktops-workstations/p/1VK-001E-4FE70

https://www.newegg.com/asus-vy249he-24-full-hd/p/N82E16824281209

Does the HP still outperform that Dell model if the i3 is replaced with a i5-1235U? It isn't a huge jump up in price but there is a 27" with a i7-1255U if that is worth a couple hundred more? Or would an i5 or that HP be good enough?

 

[Eximo]

No, there is basically no Intel CPU with integrated graphics that is going to outperform that AMD APU. Not to mention that the Ryzen 5700U is an 8 core CPU.

Even Intel's i7-1255U is 2 P cores, plus 8 E cores. So you get a total of 10 cores, but only 2 of them are the rough equivalent of the 8 cores in the AMD chip.

5700U = 8 Cores, 16 Threads
i7-1255U = 2P Cores, 8 E Cores 12 Threads

To get an equivalent from Intel you would have to bump up to the H class CPUs which have 4 or 6 P Cores, plus the E cores.

The only other somewhat worthwhile systems I spotted in the wild were Intel that also had a discrete Nvidia MX330 which is a very entry level workstation graphics card, with less performance than the Vega 8 in the AMD system. Only real advantage there is the GPU is discrete with its own memory. Roughly the same performance as Vega 8 found in the 5700U.

If you want a 27", this one is under a thousand, comes with a 1TB SSD as well. Still HP.

https://www.newegg.com/p/2NR-000A-01007?quicklink=true

 

[ohio_buckeye]

Up to you but I don’t recommend an all in one. If it breaks down then good luck fixing if. Sometimes systems are starting to solder parts. Not sure if the systems you are looking at are that way but something to keep in mind.