[SOLVED] Need help deciding amongst 4 prebuilds

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Hey!

I have a few prebuilds in mind, but im not quite sure what would be better for me. I want it to be able to run my 3 monitors, play games at 144 hz over 100 fps and in the future VR games.
My current pc acts out when i use all 3 screens the ram and cpu shoots up and youtube just freezes.

Below are the setups Im considering, some are luquid cooled and say they need no maintenance not sure if thats true or not. Also wont be using wifi.

1: Komplett Premium a145 Gaming Dator - I don't know enough about ryzen in general.

graphics card: ASUS Radeon RX 5700 DUAL EVO OC
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X
Cooling: CM Masterliquid ML120L ARGB Komplett Edition
DDR4 memory HyperX Fury RGB DDR4 2666MHz 16GB,
SSD: Samsung PM991 512GB M.2 SSD,
Motherboard: ASUS ROG Strix B450-F GAMING, Socket-AM4
PSU: Corsair TX550M, 550W PSU

2: Komplett Gamer - Crazy Core i9 Edition - Actually considering this build, could upgrde the graphics card to ASUS Radeon RX 5700 DUAL EVO OC for about 200 USD more.

graphics card: ASUS GeForce GTX1660 DUAL EVO
CPU: Intel Core i9-9900 Processor
Cooling: CM Hyper H411R RGB Black Edition
DDR4 memory: HyperX Fury DDR4 2666MHz 8GB
SSD: Kingston A2000 250GB NVMe M.2 SSD
Motherboard: ASUS TUF B360M-Plus Gaming, S-1151
PSU: Cooler Master B500 V2 KOMPLETT Edition
Network card: Svive Gaming Virga

3: Sharkgaming espot edition - considering this one as well might upgrade the ram to: Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 2x8GB 2666MHz RAM

CPU: INTEL CORE I7-9700F
Graphics card: ASUS DUAL RTX 2070 SUPER 8G EVO
Motherboard: ASUS TUF B360-PLUS GAMING BUNDKORT
Liquid cooling: COOLER MASTER ML120L RGB
Ram: KINGSTON HYPERX FURY 2X8GB 2666MHZ
PSU: FSP HYDRO 700W 80 PLUS BRONZE STRÖMFÖRSÖRJNING
SSD: INTEL 660P 512GB NVME SSD
Soundcard: REALTEK® ALC887-VD2, 8-CHANNEL HD AUDIO CODEC
Network card: REALTEK® RTL8111H, TUF LANGUARD

4: Mighty shark deep blue

CPU - INTEL CORE I7-9700KF PROCESSOR
Cooling: SHARK GAMING BLOODFREEZER 360 RGB WATERCOOLING
Motherboard: MSI MPG Z390 GAMING PLUS BUNDKORT
Graphics card - ASUS ROG STRIX GTX1660 SUPER O6G GAMING
RAM - KINGSTON HYPERX FURY RGB 2X8GB 2666MHZ
PSU - FSP HYDRO 700W 80 PLUS BRONZE STRÖMFÖRSÖRJNING
SSD: INTEL 660P 512GB NVME SSD
Soundcard: REALTEK® ALC S1200A
Network card: REALTEK® L8200A GIGABIT ETHERNET, FEATURING TURBO LAN


Thanks in advance!
 

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9900K isn't worth it imho for price to performance, plus your missing the GPU.


PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor (kr3490.00 @ CDON SE)
Motherboard: ASRock B450M/AC Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (kr1548.10 @ Newegg Sweden)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (kr1168.00 @ Dustin Home)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (kr1673.00 @ Dustin Home)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (kr749.00 @ CDON SE)
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB DUAL EVO OC Video Card (kr5999.00 @ CDON SE)
Case: Corsair iCUE 220T RGB Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case (kr1218.00 @ Dustin Home)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (kr1664.00 @ Dustin Home)
Total: kr17509.10
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Disregard the error message, the board ships with updated BIOS. Build has some RGB and will perform well for gaming and multitasking.

Could you find a shop to build it for you for a reasonable price?
 
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I see only 4 in the list. Also, are they all the same price

That said:
  • I don't trust the PSU for #2, and would avoid it
  • I'm leaning in favor of #1, but I want to know if it's a single 16GB stick, or a matched pair of 8GB sticks. It should be the latter. Also,I'm disappointed that they're using 2666Mhz RAM for it - 3000 or 3200 would be better.
 
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  • I'm leaning in favor of #1, but I want to know if it's a single 16GB stick, or a matched pair of 8GB sticks. It should be the latter.
I'd be hesitant of the slower speeds on the memory as well and with no streaming the 3800X seems kind of like a waste. Maybe if it's possible to swap to 3700X (or even 3600), get a faster 2x8gb kit and maybe use the rest of the budget for the 5700 XT then it would be a better choice out of the 4.

The browser on currently on has no translator so swapping stuff out isn't gonna happen at the moment.
 
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What I find odd although it could be due to the fact I can't read the configurators is that it doesn't seem like you can ditch the AIO coolers... The Ryzen CPU stock coolers are sufficient to keep the CPU's within safe limits and the money on the AIO's can be used for something else.
 
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I see only 4 in the list. Also, are they all the same price

That said:
  • I don't trust the PSU for #2, and would avoid it
  • I'm leaning in favor of #1, but I want to know if it's a single 16GB stick, or a matched pair of 8GB sticks. It should be the latter. Also,I'm disappointed that they're using 2666Mhz RAM for it - 3000 or 3200 would be better.
My bad it was 4, #1 is 1 865 USD #2 is 1 710 USD #3 is 1 730 USD and #4 is 1 761 USD.
I literally know nothing about PSU's but thanks for the warning. and it is a pair of 8 GB sticks, it's uppgradeable but dont know if its worth it.

I'd be hesitant of the slower speeds on the memory as well and with no streaming the 3800X seems kind of like a waste. Maybe if it's possible to swap to 3700X (or even 3600), get a faster 2x8gb kit and maybe use the rest of the budget for the 5700 XT then it would be a better choice out of the 4.

The browser on currently on has no translator so swapping stuff out isn't gonna happen at the moment.
i checked it out for you and i can swap it for: AMD Ryzen 5 3600X and get 140 USD off. and the AIO coolers arent ditchable actually. is it really worth it if you compare prices that one is the most expensive one as well.
 

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I'd be hesitant of the slower speeds on the memory as well and with no streaming the 3800X seems kind of like a waste. Maybe if it's possible to swap to 3700X (or even 3600), get a faster 2x8gb kit and maybe use the rest of the budget for the 5700 XT then it would be a better choice out of the 4.

The browser on currently on has no translator so swapping stuff out isn't gonna happen at the moment.
Agreed (also, my hasty edit of my post regarding the RAM speed after you started replying..)
 
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My bad it was 4, #1 is 1 865 USD #2 is 1 710 USD #3 is 1 730 USD and #4 is 1 761 USD.
I literally know nothing about PSU's but thanks for the warning. and it is a pair of 8 GB sticks, it's uppgradeable but dont know if its worth it.
How much for the upgrade to faster RAM for #1?
i checked it out for you and i can swap it for: AMD Ryzen 5 3600X and get 140 USD off. and the AIO coolers arent ditchable actually. is it really worth it if you compare prices that one is the most expensive one as well.
With the 3600X, you should be just fine with air cooling.

That said, if you go with #3, I'd prefer a Corsair TX or RM power supply (I don't know enough about the FSP Hydro, though I'm given to understand it's pretty good), though, obviously, you'd be looking at a 650 or 750 watt version instead of, say the 550W from the first build.
 
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Weird you can't get rid of the AIO's, 120mm versions are really pointless and are outperformed by cheaper air coolers.

Anyways as is I'm sticking with number 3 as it's a solid match of parts and the second cheapest build. It won't have the upgrade path AMD Ryzen has but that 9700F should last for awhile.
 
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How much for the upgrade to faster RAM for #1?

With the 3600X, you should be just fine with air cooling.

That said, if you go with #3, I'd prefer a Corsair TX or RM power supply (I don't know enough about the FSP Hydro, though I'm given to understand it's pretty good), though, obviously, you'd be looking at a 650 or 750 watt version instead of, say the 550W from the first build.
HyperX Fury RGB DDR4 2666MHz 2x8 16GB for like 20 USD more, for 32 gb its almost 100 USD.
In #3 a FSP Hydro 700W 80 PLUS Bronze PSU is included. the Upgrade for a FPS Hydro 750W is like 60 USD and 850W version is about 80 USD the upgrade for the Corsair RM is 176 USD. is it really worth it?

Weird you can't get rid of the AIO's, 120mm versions are really pointless and are outperformed by cheaper air coolers.

Anyways as is I'm sticking with number 3 as it's a solid match of parts and the second cheapest build. It won't have the upgrade path AMD Ryzen has but that 9700F should last for awhile.
I guess so, i wont be upgrading it either way since im to spooked to touch anything inside it lol.
 
I note that the third system you are eying is $1700-ish in stock config from this site. In my opinion in the US market you could build that computer ~$1300 give or take a bit. I note above your saying that you have no current ability or confidence to attempt the build.

Without knowing comparative pricing in your market I would look at it like this. Is the retailer and it's support close enough to be convenient to you, and well reviewed enough that your confidence in the equipment and said service are worth $400 more to you?
It is super common for run of the mill prebuilds to be problematic and in the case of many of the common builders in the states to be really unreliable about desire or ability to fix once shipped when problems arise.

Being a PC oriented site I would suggest to you that building a modern computer is both fairly easy to do and quite rewarding. There are loads of good videos online to walk step by step through the process.
 
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HyperX Fury RGB DDR4 2666MHz 2x8 16GB for like 20 USD more, for 32 gb its almost 100 USD.
In #3 a FSP Hydro 700W 80 PLUS Bronze PSU is included. the Upgrade for a FPS Hydro 750W is like 60 USD and 850W version is about 80 USD the upgrade for the Corsair RM is 176 USD. is it really worth it?
Wait, I'm confused on the RAM prices. You don't need 32GB. I was just wondering how much more to go from 2x8 @ 2666MHz to 2x8 at 3000 or 3200 MHzzzzzzz.

That price for the Corair RM is insane! And that's 176 MORE than the FPS Hydro? They don't credit you anything back on the Hydro?

On de.pcpartpicker.com, a quick search shows the 650W RM for €89.90 (kr1159), and the 750W version for €106.89 (kr1259). KR prices are from se.pcpartpicker.com.

But, all that said, I would leave it to someone with more knowledge on the FSP Hydro than I have to say whether you should go to the Corsair RM/RMx PSUs
 
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The choices on that Shark Gaming site are really limited.

-FSP Hydro 700W 80 PLUS Bronze Strömförsörjning

-FSP Hydro Gold 750W Strømforsyning

-FSP Hydro Gold 850W Strømforsyning

-Corsair RM1000i Gold cert. Strømforsyning

Talk about gap in quality.
 
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The choices on that Shark Gaming site are really limited.

-FSP Hydro 700W 80 PLUS Bronze Strömförsörjning

-FSP Hydro Gold 750W Strømforsyning

-FSP Hydro Gold 850W Strømforsyning

-Corsair RM1000i Gold cert. Strømforsyning

Talk about gap in quality.
Wait, I'm confused on the RAM prices. You don't need 32GB. I was just wondering how much more to go from 2x8 @ 2666MHz to 2x8 at 3000 or 3200 MHzzzzzzz.

That price for the Corair RM is insane! And that's 176 MORE than the FPS Hydro? They don't credit you anything back on the Hydro?

On de.pcpartpicker.com, a quick search shows the 650W RM for €89.90 (kr1159), and the 750W version for €106.89 (kr1259). KR prices are from se.pcpartpicker.com.

But, all that said, I would leave it to someone with more knowledge on the FSP Hydro than I have to say whether you should go to the Corsair RM/RMx PSUs
I may have found an alternative route that fits me better (all lights will be the same), some websites you choose the parts and they assemble and send you it, so i tried making a good one (its 17 000 SEK around 1 759 USD).
https://prnt.sc/r8pyyf
but i have no idea if ive got all the parts needed etc.
 

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9900K isn't worth it imho for price to performance, plus your missing the GPU.


PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor (kr3490.00 @ CDON SE)
Motherboard: ASRock B450M/AC Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (kr1548.10 @ Newegg Sweden)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (kr1168.00 @ Dustin Home)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (kr1673.00 @ Dustin Home)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (kr749.00 @ CDON SE)
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB DUAL EVO OC Video Card (kr5999.00 @ CDON SE)
Case: Corsair iCUE 220T RGB Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case (kr1218.00 @ Dustin Home)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (kr1664.00 @ Dustin Home)
Total: kr17509.10
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-27 23:04 CET+0100


Disregard the error message, the board ships with updated BIOS. Build has some RGB and will perform well for gaming and multitasking.

Could you find a shop to build it for you for a reasonable price?
 
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kristian20

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9900K isn't worth it imho for price to performance, plus your missing the GPU.


PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor (kr3490.00 @ CDON SE)
Motherboard: ASRock B450M/AC Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (kr1548.10 @ Newegg Sweden)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (kr1168.00 @ Dustin Home)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (kr1673.00 @ Dustin Home)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (kr749.00 @ CDON SE)
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB DUAL EVO OC Video Card (kr5999.00 @ CDON SE)
Case: Corsair iCUE 220T RGB Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case (kr1218.00 @ Dustin Home)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (kr1664.00 @ Dustin Home)
Total: kr17509.10
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-27 23:04 CET+0100


Disregard the error message, the board ships with updated BIOS. Build has some RGB and will perform well for gaming and multitasking.

Could you find a shop to build it for you for a reasonable price?
Thats the thing if i could i would've done that a long time ago, but theres no store i know or anyone i know that can build pcs
 

kristian20

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9900K isn't worth it imho for price to performance, plus your missing the GPU.


PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor (kr3490.00 @ CDON SE)
Motherboard: ASRock B450M/AC Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (kr1548.10 @ Newegg Sweden)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (kr1168.00 @ Dustin Home)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (kr1673.00 @ Dustin Home)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (kr749.00 @ CDON SE)
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB DUAL EVO OC Video Card (kr5999.00 @ CDON SE)
Case: Corsair iCUE 220T RGB Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case (kr1218.00 @ Dustin Home)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (kr1664.00 @ Dustin Home)
Total: kr17509.10
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-27 23:04 CET+0100


Disregard the error message, the board ships with updated BIOS. Build has some RGB and will perform well for gaming and multitasking.

Could you find a shop to build it for you for a reasonable price?
I might just shut up and buy #3 get the ram i want and call it a day, maybe ask them about the PSU double check my montiors will work fine with it etc.
I note that the third system you are eying is $1700-ish in stock config from this site. In my opinion in the US market you could build that computer ~$1300 give or take a bit. I note above your saying that you have no current ability or confidence to attempt the build.

Without knowing comparative pricing in your market I would look at it like this. Is the retailer and it's support close enough to be convenient to you, and well reviewed enough that your confidence in the equipment and said service are worth $400 more to you?
It is super common for run of the mill prebuilds to be problematic and in the case of many of the common builders in the states to be really unreliable about desire or ability to fix once shipped when problems arise.

Being a PC oriented site I would suggest to you that building a modern computer is both fairly easy to do and quite rewarding. There are loads of good videos online to walk step by step through the process.
Just the inport fee from outside the EU will make it not worth it especially in case i have to send it back etc.
 

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Does #3 come with a warranty at least?
Yes 2 years, they all have a warranty.
Wait, I'm confused on the RAM prices. You don't need 32GB. I was just wondering how much more to go from 2x8 @ 2666MHz to 2x8 at 3000 or 3200 MHzzzzzzz.

That price for the Corsair RM is insane! And that's 176 MORE than the FPS Hydro? They don't credit you anything back on the Hydro?

On de.pcpartpicker.com, a quick search shows the 650W RM for €89.90 (kr1159), and the 750W version for €106.89 (kr1259). KR prices are from se.pcpartpicker.com.

But, all that said, I would leave it to someone with more knowledge on the FSP Hydro than I have to say whether you should go to the Corsair RM/RMx PSUs
update: i found out if you scroll down further there are different RAM options for #1
Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz 2x8GB 16GB for like 41 USD more.
and #3 they don't return anything it's 176 MORE for the other PSU.
 

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9900K isn't worth it imho for price to performance, plus your missing the GPU.


PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor (kr3490.00 @ CDON SE)
Motherboard: ASRock B450M/AC Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (kr1548.10 @ Newegg Sweden)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (kr1168.00 @ Dustin Home)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (kr1673.00 @ Dustin Home)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (kr749.00 @ CDON SE)
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB DUAL EVO OC Video Card (kr5999.00 @ CDON SE)
Case: Corsair iCUE 220T RGB Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case (kr1218.00 @ Dustin Home)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (kr1664.00 @ Dustin Home)
Total: kr17509.10
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-27 23:04 CET+0100


Disregard the error message, the board ships with updated BIOS. Build has some RGB and will perform well for gaming and multitasking.

Could you find a shop to build it for you for a reasonable price?
I might be able to find someone to build it for like 60 USD. Build would finnish up to 18 000 SEK (1 849,61 US) would that be the best option between all the prebuilds?
 

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I would take my custom part list over the prebuilts any day as your going to get some better quality parts such as the PSU and wouldn't need to worry about the AIO cooler leaking at some point and possibly ruining your parts.

I can't really speak for pricing as it differs around the world but the build plus your labor cost would be about $1400 here in the US which I think is reasonable.
 
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I'd agree with the custom part list. You know exactly what you're getting.

The only change I might suggest to @WildCard999 's build is:

https://se.pcpartpicker.com/product/2HbwrH/corsair-rmx-2018-650w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020178-na
650W, so 100W more headroom, and brings the PSU price down to kr1299

Or
https://se.pcpartpicker.com/product/WxL48d/corsair-rm-2019-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020194-na
Also 650W, but slightly cheaper at kr1159 while still being a good quality PSU.
 

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