Need help for gaming computer

[alexandre_clezardin]

Hi guys . I need your help ^^ I just decided to realise my dream and spend a good amount of money for a beast for gaming . A good tower which can hold any game at maximum capacity . The problème is I’m a pastry chef lol so my previous study didn’t help for computers knowledge. So I’ve done some looking about that’s and it looks very complicated . I’ve got 2 choices : ether buy a «  shop computer at curry’s pc world «  this the one I’ve looked at : https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/desktop-pcs/desktop-pcs/hp-omen-880-112na-gaming-pc-10175449-pdt.html
this one look very well equipped in thermes of components but I’m anable to say if they are compatible between each other ...
The second possibility is to use one of the website and to choose my own components .
So I went on this website and I’ve chosen theses components :


Aerocool Quartz RGB: 1x Top USB 3.0, 2x USB 2.0 & Audio.
Thermaltake TR2 S 600W 80+ Power Supply Unit.
ASUS Z370-P: 4x USB3.0 & 2x USB2.0.
Intel Core i7 8700K Six Core 3.7GHz 12MB Cache (12 Threads) TurboBoost Upto 4.7GHz Retail Box.
Corsair H75 Liquid CPU Cooler.
16GB (2x8GB) Samsung 2400MHz DDR4.
Samsung 250GB 970 EVO M.2 Solid State Drive (Read 3400MB/sec, Write 1500MB/sec, 200k/350k IOPS).
Seagate 2TB Hard Drive.
Nvidia GTX 1070 8GB.
Built-in audio.
Built-in GB LAN.
Addon AWP1200E 1200Mbps PCI-Express AC Wireless adapter.
Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64-bit.
2 Year Parts & Labour Warranty Includes 2 Year Collect & Return.
System Built and tested in 1-3 Working days.


It’s quiet expensive ( 1500£ ) and for that amount of money I want to make sure that I’ve chosen the right things .


If any of you could explain why if theirs is something wrong it would help me in the future to understand if I have to upgrade it to keep it at the top

Thank you very much In advance ( by the way sorry for my English , I am French so I give my best I’ve ask the French community on Tom hardware.fr but they send me to you as I live in uk and you might know better the market

 

[feelinfroggy777]

What monitor will you be using? It is important to know the resolution and refresh rate in order to select the right GPU.

 

[alexandre_clezardin]

Ho ... ok I’ve got it the wrong way lol that was my next question . So I’ve found this one : https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/pc-monitors/pc-monitors/samsung-c27f396-full-hd-27-curved-led-monitor-10146154-pdt.html but I was going to ask if , regarding the quality of the tour I’m going to buy , do I must buy something more expensive to make the most of my tour ? And I you think you can explain me a bit more about this refresh process ? What’s happening between components and the monitor ? Thanks

 

[feelinfroggy777]

Use pcpartpicker.com and select your location. It will filter out compatible products and makes choosing the correct parts very easy. Most prebuilt systems don't have very good PSUs. I am not a big fan of Thermaltake in the build above and I would go with something different.

Here is a comparable rig to the prebuilt and it has a much better PSU for a cheaper total cost.

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/zb9kD2
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/zb9kD2/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor (£303.59 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£44.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370 TOMAHAWK ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£105.48 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: ADATA - XPG GAMMIX D10 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory (£147.32 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£89.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£73.19 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB GameRock Video Card (£342.98 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case (£74.88 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£69.59 @ Aria PC)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£99.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1352.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-28 17:05 BST+0100

 

[feelinfroggy777]

Ho ... ok I’ve got it the wrong way lol that was my next question . So I’ve found this one : https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/pc-monitors/pc-monitors/samsung-c27f396-full-hd-27-curved-led-monitor-10146154-pdt.html but I was going to ask if , regarding the quality of the tour I’m going to buy , do I must buy something more expensive to make the most of my tour ? And I you think you can explain me a bit more about this refresh process ? What’s happening between components and the monitor ? Thanks

Refresh rate is how many times the monitor will refresh per second. The monitor that you selected has a 60hz refresh rate. That means every second the monitor's pixels can change colors 60 times. Frames Per Second is how you calculate gaming performance. How many times a frame can be updated each second. If you have a system that is pushing out 120fps, but a monitor that only runs on 60hz, then you will only see 60fps. Therefore, all of that extra performance is lost.

The minimum for PC gaming is 60fps. So with that monitor you will be running the minimum standards. For 1500 you should be closer to high end standards. I suggest getting a 1080p/144hz monitor or a 1440p/144hz monitor to pair with a gtx 1070. If you are going to stick with the 1080p/60hz monitor, then you should save yourself some money and choose a cheaper GPU because your monitor will be the weakest link in your system.

 

[alexandre_clezardin]

Wow that’s really like Chinese for me . I need a lesson . So your not a big fan of built ones ? What about this : https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/qWLrxr/excellent-amd-gaming-build or if you think an other one is better could you send it to me ? Thanks

 

[feelinfroggy777]

I swapped out the 8700k for a 8400. It saved money on the CPU cooler and motherboard. Used that to get a better monitor. This rig would get you out the door with everything and still be cheaper than the prebuilt.

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/kHyYXP
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/kHyYXP/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor (£147.97 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B360M DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£64.97 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: ADATA - XPG GAMMIX D10 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory (£147.32 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£89.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£73.19 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB GameRock Video Card (£342.98 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case (£74.88 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£69.59 @ Aria PC)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£99.99 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: Acer - KG271B 27.0" 1920x1080 240Hz Monitor (£229.98 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1340.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-28 17:17 BST+0100

 

[feelinfroggy777]

Wow that’s really like Chinese for me . I need a lesson . So your not a big fan of built ones ? What about this : https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/qWLrxr/excellent-amd-gaming-build or if you think an other one is better could you send it to me ? Thanks

That is a great build, if it is in your budget, then go for it. For gaming, Intel CPUs have an edge, but not by much. For workstation tasks, AMD CPUs have bigger lead. Both are excellent CPUs but it can depend on your use case. If you are only going to game on the PC, then Intel maybe a better option.

 

[alexandre_clezardin]

Wow feelingfroggy thanks that’s very clearly explained I’m going to look for a better screen then I understand this part better now . That’s the kind of answer I’m looking for

Now next step , I know the i7 is the last processor ( maybe i9 but not sure ) so why going back to the i5? It’s probably related to the other components but once more I don’t understand how they work . I understand the gpu now though .

 

[alexandre_clezardin]

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/pc-monitors/pc-monitors/msi-optix-mag24c-full-hd-24-curved-led-gaming-monitor-black-red-10177726-pdt.html This monitor would be more adapted then feelingfroggy ?

 

[feelinfroggy777]

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/pc-monitors/pc-monitors/msi-optix-mag24c-full-hd-24-curved-led-gaming-monitor-black-red-10177726-pdt.html This monitor would be more adapted then feelingfroggy ?

That monitor is fine, it is just a little small. The curve is just a gimmick at that size. The purpose of the curve is to bring the screen in from your peripherals. This is why some ultra wide monitors are curved because you will have to turn you head to see the edges of the screen. With a 24" or 27" monitor, you wont need to turn your head to see the edge of the screen.

The i7 is the top of the mainstream lineup for Intel. The i9 CPUs are not gaming CPUs, they are for workstations and are more expensive. The i7 will get better gaming performance than the i9. The i5 is still a solid performer when it comes to gaming. The 8400 is a 6 core/6 thread CPU that can handle any gaming task. The 8700k is a 6 core/12 thread CPU that supports overclocking. Games just don't use that many threads. This is why there is a 5% difference in fps between a i5 8400 and the i7 8700k. But the 8700k cost almost twice as much as the 8400.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_7_2700X/13.html

So the better buy is the 8400. If you want the best of the best and price is no problem, then the 8700k is great. But if you want the most bang for you buck, then it is not so great. GPU performance is much more important in AAA games today. For a gaming rig, build your system around the GPU, not the CPU.