Build Advice Need help minimising cost of build

[Griffint]

Hi all, I was recently recommended the below build:

CPU		Intel Core i5-13500 2.5 GHz 14-Core Processor	£264.48
CPU Cooler		Deepcool AK500 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler	£56.04
Motherboard		Gigabyte B660M AORUS Pro AX DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard	£152.18
Memory		Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory	£87.99
Storage		Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive	£179.17
Case		Lian Li LANCOOL 215 ATX Mid Tower Case	£129.99
Power Supply		Corsair RM750x (2021) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	£75.00
GPU	​	Zotac GEFORCE GTX 1070	(Owned)

Total : Approx £960


Desired specs:

32GB RAM
8-Core Min.
8GB VRAM

For some triple-A gaming but mainly 3D modelling, rendering and using Adobe software.

Ideally I’d like to bring the initial cost down a bit. Is there any way I could achieve the desired specs with some cheaper components to get by on and then upgrade to all the components on this list over the next few months?



Thanks for any help.

 

[Eximo]

A little cheaper. If you can snag that PSU for 75, then it is quite the deal, otherwise:

B760 motherboard for less, also with wireless.
PCIe 4.0 NVMe for the same price as the PCIe 3.0 drive you were looking at (not much in the way of cheaper 3.0 drives at 2TB)
Cheaper case that also has RGB fans (You can save a lot by not having RGB fans and going with a more basic case)
Semi-modular power supply. Not ideal, but PSU prices in the UK are a bit crazy at the moment.
Slightly more expensive ram, but it is CL16 instead of CL18.
Heatsink is cheaper, and a pretty decent one for a locked processor.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-13500 2.5 GHz 14-Core Processor (£249.00 @ Computer Orbit)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H5 Ultimate 76 CFM CPU Cooler (£45.65 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B760M GAMING X AX DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (£129.94 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Kingston FURY Renegade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (£91.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£180.49 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Zotac AMP Extreme GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB Video Card
Case: Antec NX800 ATX Mid Tower Case (£96.25 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair TX650M Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (£79.98 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £873.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-01-13 17:04 GMT+0000

 

[Nighthawk117]

PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/6YyQQ6

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor (£185.00 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK500 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler (£55.47 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard (£154.97 @ Box Limited)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory (£87.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£177.71 @ Technextday)
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 215 ATX Mid Tower Case (£101.09 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750x (2021) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£149.99 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £912.22

I don't know where you found the RM750x but if you got it for £75 then that would bring the above to £837. That still get's you an 8 core CPU.

 

[Griffint]

A little cheaper. If you can snag that PSU for 75, then it is quite the deal, otherwise:

B760 motherboard for less, also with wireless.
PCIe 4.0 NVMe for the same price as the PCIe 3.0 drive you were looking at (not much in the way of cheaper 3.0 drives at 2TB)
Cheaper case that also has RGB fans (You can save a lot by not having RGB fans and going with a more basic case)
Semi-modular power supply. Not ideal, but PSU prices in the UK are a bit crazy at the moment.
Slightly more expensive ram, but it is CL16 instead of CL18.
Heatsink is cheaper, and a pretty decent one for a locked processor.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-13500 2.5 GHz 14-Core Processor (£249.00 @ Computer Orbit)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H5 Ultimate 76 CFM CPU Cooler (£45.65 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B760M GAMING X AX DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (£129.94 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Kingston FURY Renegade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (£91.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£180.49 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Zotac AMP Extreme GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB Video Card
Case: Antec NX800 ATX Mid Tower Case (£96.25 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair TX650M Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (£79.98 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £873.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-01-13 17:04 GMT+0000

Thanks for the advice. Would a Corsair RM650x (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply work? Because that’s what I’m running at the minute. I’m also cautious of mixing RAM but I’ve got 2 Vulcan 8GB-3600 DDRs too.

 

[Griffint]

PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/6YyQQ6

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor (£185.00 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK500 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler (£55.47 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard (£154.97 @ Box Limited)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory (£87.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£177.71 @ Technextday)
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 215 ATX Mid Tower Case (£101.09 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750x (2021) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£149.99 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £912.22

I don't know where you found the RM750x but if you got it for £75 then that would bring the above to £837. That still get's you an 8 core CPU.

Thanks for the advice. Yea the PSU was refurbished on eBay but already disappeared so think someone got on it pretty quick.

 

[Eximo]

Thanks for the advice. Would a Corsair RM650x (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply work? Because that’s what I’m running at the minute. I’m also cautious of mixing RAM but I’ve got 2 Vulcan 8GB-3600 DDRs too.

RM650x is fine to run, yes. When you start looking at a GPU upgrade in the future, it would just limit you there.

Not recommended to try mixing memory at all, chances are pretty low of getting it to work at XMP speeds, if it boots at all.

 

[Griffint]

RM650x is fine to run, yes. When you start looking at a GPU upgrade in the future, it would just limit you there.

Not recommended to try mixing memory at all, chances are pretty low of getting it to work at XMP speeds, if it boots at all.

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RM650x is fine to run, yes. When you start looking at a GPU upgrade in the future, it would just limit you there.

Not recommended to try mixing memory at all, chances are pretty low of getting it to work at XMP speeds, if it boots at all.

Ok great that helps. Was thinking of upgrading to a 3060 asap. Assuming I get a new psu would a new graphics card be easy to drop into this build?

 

[Eximo]

3060 and 1070 have pretty similar power requirements, you would be fine for now.

If you wanted to get something beefier like a 3070Ti and up or a 4070Ti and up, then you would need to look at a new PSU.

Any GPU likely to come out in the next 5 years would be fine with a new PSU.

 

[Griffint]

3060 and 1070 have pretty similar power requirements, you would be fine for now.

If you wanted to get something beefier like a 3070Ti and up or a 4070Ti and up, then you would need to look at a new PSU.

Any GPU likely to come out in the next 5 years would be fine with a new PSU.

Ok great, thanks again for all the help. I suspect I’ll be changing parts out more often in the future but pretty limited knowledge and compatibility issues scare the life out of me, are there any good resources to learn pc building or just pick stuff up as you go along?

 

[Eximo]

These days a few youtube videos and the manuals that come with hardware is enough. Toughest part of a build these days is still the front I/O headers and RGB wiring (Different voltages and connectors).

Nothing hugely significant has changed since the introduction of PCIe and SATA except the move to NVMe storage, which is even simpler.

New Nvidia GPUs require a new power connector, but at the moment they all ship with adapters (like early PCIe GPUs did)

More specific knowledge would be things like not plugging an RTX4080 into a 1st gen Intel system. Not because it wouldn't work, but because the CPU is so outdated the GPU will have almost nothing to do. CPU/Motherboard compatibility can be tricky, but if you stick with hardware that is launched at the same time, you can avoid most of those issues.

USB revisions are a bit silly. HDMI and DisplayPort can be a little confusing.

 

[logainofhades]

Trimmed a bit more of the price.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-13500 2.5 GHz 14-Core Processor (£247.83 @ Technextday)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Pure Rock 2 Black CPU Cooler (£35.82 @ Technextday)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B760M GAMING X AX DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (£129.94 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Kingston FURY Beast 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£79.02 @ Technextday)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£149.99 @ Ebuyer)
Video Card: Zotac AMP Extreme GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB Video Card
Case: Antec NX410 ATX Mid Tower Case (£61.72 @ Technextday)
Power Supply: Corsair TX650M Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (£79.98 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £784.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-01-13 19:13 GMT+0000

 

[geofelt]

All are reasonable suggestions.
The 13500 is a strong processor.
Your most likely future upgrade will be to a stronger graphics card that may well need 850w or more.
It will pay to buy one up front.