Need Help On Deciding Which HDD & SSD To Get

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you are on the right track. storage should be on the platters however you will need to stick to small video files if you plan to edit them all on the SSD. i dont know what kind of editing you do but as for myself an average file size is anywhere from 650GB-1.5TB. how large are your files?

now this may not be what you want but im going to assign 200.00 price point PER HD.
here is a fast platter: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136284
let me know if you need more space
SSD: i would press you to buy 2 of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227726
stick them into raid-0, i run a 240GB C drive and come close to running out of space.

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sata 2 or sata 3? how much space do you need on your SSD? i am a huge proponent of putting more than 1 smaller SSD into a raid0 array to get more speed, is this somthing you think you may want?
 
For the SSD, try this article: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-storage-value,3184-3.html . It puts you into a 180 GB Vertex 3, or 128 GB Samsung 830.

For the HDD, the biggest you can afford. Heck, that's the answer for SSDs, too: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sata-6gbps-performance-sata-3gbps,3110-8.html .

If your motherboard has only SATA II ports, these will somewhat limit the speed of your SSD transfers, but the system will still be snappy as all heck.

ncc74656, could we talk about your experience in PM, or in another thread? Most of the advice that I have seen is to buy the larger SSD, not RAID them. It would be interesting for me to learn about your experience.
 

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Importantly is what do you have currently? That could change the outlook of that question quite a bit. Each have their uses. For example I wouldn't recommend an SSD if that is going to be your only drive.

Not to flame on you or anything, but your thread is a really poorly constructed one. You simply ask, an HDD or SDD? and you give some arbitrary prices that don't have any drive specs associated with them.

 

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Agreed....You are going to need to post more info than just prices and hard drive type.


What are you going to be using these drives for?

How fast do you want your hard drive to be? (7200 rpm, 5400 rpm, etc...)

How big do you want your ssd?

Do you care what the read and write speeds of the ssd are going to be?

Which is going to be your boot drive? (Definitely go with SSD)

Once you answer some of these then some of the guys here will be able to give you more details and info.
 

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Huh, I Have a 7 Year Old Laptop :p. This is for my new build in June, Once I get honor roll in school :D.


CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5 GHz
Graphics Card: EVGA Hydro Copper GTX 680
RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 1600 MHz
HDD:
SSD:
MotherBoard: G1 Sniper 3
Optical Drive:
Power Supply:
Liquid Cooling:
Case: NZXT Switch 810 White


My Unfinished Specs For Your Information.

SSD is my boot drive with games and stuff. This Build Is for gaming and video encoding if i make videos in the future. I Need Fast Read n Write Speeds n SATA 3- 6Gb. SSD capacity, 120 GB Should be good, 240 GB Maybe? I need it around $200.

For the HDD I think i would want a 7200 RPM one. As this is for storage etc.
 

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This should've been your first post then. That's how you start a thread. It sounds like you have everything figured out. Good luck with your build.
 

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you are on the right track. storage should be on the platters however you will need to stick to small video files if you plan to edit them all on the SSD. i dont know what kind of editing you do but as for myself an average file size is anywhere from 650GB-1.5TB. how large are your files?

now this may not be what you want but im going to assign 200.00 price point PER HD.
here is a fast platter: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136284
let me know if you need more space
SSD: i would press you to buy 2 of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227726
stick them into raid-0, i run a 240GB C drive and come close to running out of space.
 
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What the heck are you editing!!! :eek: I had to ask because this sounds like some extremely large video files.

I think is probably referring to "gaming" videos or montages, but I am not 100% sure....
 

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i edit raw 1080 video quite often. we use cameras connected via HDMI to a 1720 dell laptop with dual 120SSD's in raid-0 for cache and a external storage array. im not much into filming but i just happen to be the guy with a very powerfull desktop and editing skills so i got involved in it.
 

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Yea i mean gaming videos and montages rofl? As for the SSD, wouldn't RAID 0 make it twice as likely for hard drive failure? Should I Get the 240 GB Model?

As for the HDD Isn't that SATA 3.0 Gb/s , I went to look at the SATA 6.0 Gb/s Model (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533), I Read that the drive was failing a few days after using it, loud noise like a coffee grinder, and errors?
 

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I was going to say...You must be editing some high quality stuff.

I remember hearing that 15 minutes or so of uncompressed 1080 video would take up 30gb of space no problem.

I know it is off topic, but what do you edit?
 

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nature videos for the most part (in that quality anyway) outside of that i do weddings, birthdays, strong man competitions... really anything that people want. VHS to blueray and a bit of vhs digital enhancement.
 

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Thats cool. Sounds like a decent field to go into. Do you have your own business?
 

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sorry i didnt see your questions in the mix of my answers. sata 3 or 6 on a platter drive is a moot point imo... the damn thing cant read or write over 120MB/s anyway. for all intensive purposes IDE would not be maxed out... (not counting over head).

as for the SSD's yes raid-0 is less stable but they are solid state drives, there is not much to go wrong. the raid would double your performance over a single 240GB drive and its cheaper. i run 3 intel X25 2nd gens 80GB sata II in raid-0 and there is to this day not a sata III drive that beats them performance wise.
 

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CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5 GHz
Graphics Card: Nvidia GTX 680
RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 1600 MHz
HDD: Western Digital Black Caviar 7200 RPM SATA 3.0 Gb/s
SSD: OCZ Agility 3 120GB x2
MotherBoard: G1 Sniper 3
Optical Drive:
Power Supply:
Liquid Cooling:
Case: NZXT Switch 810 White

Looks better? Mind helping me with my optical and PSU too?
 

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good luck finding a 680 nvidia in stock. i just got a 7950 as i could not find any stores that had the 680.

i am sure somone will disagree with me on this but i love roswill PSU's. ive used them in all of my personal builds and most of my client builds. most i have ever had go wrong is a PSU fan failure and those are easily replaced.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182188

i have used this drive in teh past with out issue. i have two of its bigger brothers in my comp now (the RW kind) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136246

i see you have LC on your list... do you intend to over clock this?
 

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ive used 3 corsair PSU's in the past, all 3 died so i will have to say no.

as for LC you ONLY want LC if you plan to really push your comp and have the extra cash. there is yearly maintenance needed, cleaning, water getting into your comp, and proper pump setups/routing of tubing. air cooling with a good heatsink is more than good enough for most people OC. if you do want to run LC tho the kits are mostly junk. i spent 315.00 on my LC kit for the CPU only and ordered from 12 separate websites. never use thermaltake LC parts, they are ***.
 

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