Need Help on new Build!

tzammit_96

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Hi all, I'm planning my first build and I'd appreciate it greatly if you gave me advice :)

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Ymw6XH

So above is the current planned build. My budget is around 1700ish euro, the cost of the above build.

CPU: I chose the i5-6500 as I have no experience in overclocking, don't know how to do watercooling and don't have the budget for it, and I read overclocking your cpu won't make such a high difference in performance. Also I read that since I'm going stock cpu the fan that comes with it is enough.

Motherboard: All sources I have read point towards this one being the best option. I know I said I don't know anything about overclocking however this doesn't mean I won't research about it and even give it a go in the future. And for a difference of 30 euro I'd rather have the best motherboard option.

Ram: I need guidance here. I chose the DDR4 2666 memory ram because the difference between the 2666mhz and 2133mhz is only around 6ish euro. However as I said I don't know what this means, I only went the assumption that the higher number means higher performance. Again I need help here.

SSD: pretty much the best SSD I could find, cheap.

HardDrive: pretty standard, I could add more storage if I need in the future.

Graphics Card: This is where it gets interesting. I chose the GTX 1080 because I can get it at a relatively cheap price ~600 euro. I went with the EVGA model after some research showing that the difference between 3rd party models is minimal and that EVGA warranty doesn't become void when overclocking and they have the step up program (I haven't researched this fully yet).

Case: sleek, good cable management, I like it.

Power Supply: enough wattage, good power supply

Now I need some help with regards to the graphics card and the monitor. I was originally going to get a gtx 1070 and a 1080p 144z monitor. However since I can get a good price on the gtx 1080 I chose to get that and a 1440p 144hz monitor. I have no experience with this, that's why I need your help. I won't be gaming competitively, I will be mostly playing with friends online just to have fun. I'll surely be playing a bit of everything, CS GO, battlefield, GTA V, the witcher, dark souls 3, and similar RPGs. I could have gone with a gtx 1070 and 1440p 60hz monitor or 1080p 144hz monitor. I chose the 1440p 144hz version with the gtx 1080 since as I will be playing some RPGs I'd like to have a nicer picture, rather than just for playing competitively. I also don't want to upgrade everything every summer, I'd like to just build this pc to be covered for the next 3 years, hence why I chose the 1440p 144hz monitor. If further on the gpu won't be able to handle new games at 1440p, I'll downscale to 1080p and play at 144hz. However this is all just my opinion, and I greatly value yours as, again, I don't have much experience. Thanks :)
 
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I'd get a 1070 and a 1920x1080 144hz screen or a GTX 1080 and a 1440p 144hz screen.
Either way, as new games come out in the years to come, you're going to need to turn down settings to maintain frame rates.

If you're a serious FPS player, you haven't seen anything since you've tried a 144hz screen.
If you don't really care, just get a 60hz screen and a 1070 so you can turn the settings up and not worry about getting more than 60fps.

With the pascal nvidia cards, I believe we'll be needing a new card within a year or two anyway. But that's my two cents.

Faux_Grey

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Looks good to me.
People might complaint that you've only got 1 stick of ram and that you lose your dual-channel - but believe me, you won't notice.

Nice so you can upgrade and buy another 8Gb later.

I've got myself a 144hz 1440p monitor for my 1080 as well.

You could get a cheaper motherboard, but for 30 euro more, the Asus is nice.
 

tzammit_96

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Which monitor did you get? Do you get to use the full 144hz with 1440p gaming? Also how long do you think will the gtx 1080 cope with 1440p gaming while maintaining high fps (80+)?
 

Faux_Grey

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I gotmyself a Acer XG270HU 27" WQHD (2560x1440) 1ms 144HZ Adaptive-Sync (Free Sync) LED Desktop Monitor.

The 1080 should has no trouble hitting 80+ FPS at WQHD in intensive games.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/palit_geforce_gtx_1080_gamerock_premium_edition_g_panel_review,25.html

Games like counter strike can run at 144fps on my netbook, so no worries there.



Also, if you've got a little money left over, I'd recommend a non-stock CPU cooler, it just helps keep the noise down if that sort of thing bothers you.
 
Like Faux_Grey said, you're memory choice is wrong. You should do 2x4GB = 8GB for dual channel operation. In some games and applications 1 x 8GB vs 2 x 4GB is about a 7% difference in performance. There is not a huge difference in price were talking a few Euros to do it right, so why skimp on a decent build. You absolutely do not need DDR4-2666 on a non-k CPU. Switch back to DDR4-2133 and take the Euros saved and get a proper dual channel kit.

Since this is a gaming build you really should consider 2x8GB DDR4-2133 for 16GB total, some games run better if they have access to more then 8GB of RAM. In 3 years or less most new games are going to want 16GB to run well.

You don't need a Z170 motherboard with a non-k CPU. The Z motherboards primary reason for existing and price premium is for over clocking. Get the best H170 motherboard you can find. One exception to this rule would be if you eventually want to run SLI 1080 then a Z170 motherboard makes sense.
However, choosing a Z170 motherboard won't hurt anything either, except your budget.

The rest of this build looks fine.
 

tzammit_96

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how about going with a 1440p 144 hz monitor? Will the gtx 1080 handle it for a few years without having to upgrade my gpuor should I go for a gtx 1070 and a 1440p 60hz monitor? This is my primary concern
 

Faux_Grey

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I'd get a 1070 and a 1920x1080 144hz screen or a GTX 1080 and a 1440p 144hz screen.
Either way, as new games come out in the years to come, you're going to need to turn down settings to maintain frame rates.

If you're a serious FPS player, you haven't seen anything since you've tried a 144hz screen.
If you don't really care, just get a 60hz screen and a 1070 so you can turn the settings up and not worry about getting more than 60fps.

With the pascal nvidia cards, I believe we'll be needing a new card within a year or two anyway. But that's my two cents.
 
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