Need help overclocking AMD FX-8370 on Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 R5 Motherboard

[dkD0nkeyniks]

MOBO: Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 R5
Processor: AMD FX-8370
RAM: Corsair Vengeance Pro 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400
Graphics Card: MSI Geforce GTX 1070 Gaming X 8GB
SSD: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5"
HDD: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM
CPU Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper Evo 212
Case Fans: 3 front intakes (2000 rpms) 1 rear exhaust (2000 rpms) 2 top exhast (1000 rpms)

Can someone help? whats steps do i need to take?

 

[MeanMachine41]

Please study this guide first: http://www.overclock.net/t/1140459/bulldozer-overclocking-guide-performance-scaling-charts-max-ocs-ln2-results-coming. If you have any issues just ask.

 

[sizzling]

You left out one of the most important components, what exact PSU do you have?

 

[dkD0nkeyniks]

You left out one of the most important components, what exact PSU do you have?

Oh sorry here it is
EVGA SuperNOVA 750 80+ GOLD

 

[dkD0nkeyniks]

Please study this guide first: http://www.overclock.net/t/1140459/bulldozer-overclocking-guide-performance-scaling-charts-max-ocs-ln2-results-coming. If you have any issues just ask.

Hi, I followed the steps, but after I change the multilplier to 4.5 Ghz and vCore to 1.45v, as well as LLC set to highest I cant boot into windows

 

[MeanMachine41]

Please study this guide first: http://www.overclock.net/t/1140459/bulldozer-overclocking-guide-performance-scaling-charts-max-ocs-ln2-results-coming. If you have any issues just ask.

Hi, I followed the steps, but after I change the multilplier to 4.5 Ghz and vCore to 1.45v, as well as LLC set to highest I cant boot into windows

LLC set to highest and a core voltage of 1.45V is too much. Don't rush it.
Clear CMOS and start again and do your OC in smaller steps.
You should first fix your frequency at 4.4GHz with a core voltage of 1.375V then stress test the CPU to see how your Cooler Master Hyper Evo 212 is coping.
Do not go beyond 1.4V on the core.
If stress test is stable and temps OK then increase frequency to 4.5GHz and test again.
LLC comes into play at the higher OCs to prevent Vdroop.

I use AIDA64 and HWMonitor when testing so download them and put them side by side on your desktop.
In AIDA64, go to the Tools menu and select the stress test, check boxes for CPU, FPU and Cache.
Run the test for 10 mins and shut it down if temps reach 75C.
Take screen shots at the 10min mark and post the results here for analysis.

 

[dkD0nkeyniks]

Please study this guide first: http://www.overclock.net/t/1140459/bulldozer-overclocking-guide-performance-scaling-charts-max-ocs-ln2-results-coming. If you have any issues just ask.

Hi, I followed the steps, but after I change the multilplier to 4.5 Ghz and vCore to 1.45v, as well as LLC set to highest I cant boot into windows

LLC set to highest and a core voltage of 1.45V is too much. Don't rush it.
Clear CMOS and start again and do your OC in smaller steps.
You should first fix your frequency at 4.4GHz with a core voltage of 1.375V then stress test the CPU to see how your Cooler Master Hyper Evo 212 is coping.
Do not go beyond 1.4V on the core.
If stress test is stable and temps OK then increase frequency to 4.5GHz and test again.
LLC comes into play at the higher OCs to prevent Vdroop.

I use AIDA64 and HWMonitor when testing so download them and put them side by side on your desktop.
In AIDA64, go to the Tools menu and select the stress test, check boxes for CPU, FPU and Cache.
Run the test for 10 mins and shut it down if temps reach 75C.
Take screen shots at the 10min mark and post the results here for analysis.

When you say clear CMOS, is that the same as Loading the default settings? Also, is Prime95 ok instead of AIDA64?

 

[MeanMachine41]

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When you say clear CMOS, is that the same as Loading the default settings? Also, is Prime95 ok instead of AIDA64?[/quotemsg]

Yes its basically the same as clearing CMOS if your able to access Bios.
I don't use P95 myself as it will torture your CPU and should never be left unattended. P95 does not test your sub systems ie: RAM, GPU, disks.
Aida64 in conjunction with HWMonitor is best for analysis and provides more comprehensive information or you can use Realbench which is a realworld tester and pass that test and you can consider your system stable.

You can use IMIGUR to host the screen shots. Upload your image files to IMIGUR and when uploaded go to your Images and obtain the BBurl as a link here.

 

[dkD0nkeyniks]

When you say clear CMOS, is that the same as Loading the default settings? Also, is Prime95 ok instead of AIDA64?

Yes its basically the same as clearing CMOS if your able to access Bios.
I don't use P95 myself as it will torture your CPU and should never be left unattended. P95 does not test your sub systems ie: RAM, GPU, disks.
Aida64 in conjunction with HWMonitor is best for analysis and provides more comprehensive information or you can use Realbench which is a realworld tester and pass that test and you can consider your system stable.

You can use IMIGUR to host the screen shots. Upload your image files to IMIGUR and when uploaded go to your Images and obtain the BBurl as a link here.

Hey I actually attempted to OCing last night and here's what I have so far:

I started at 4.3GHz at first running at 1.35V, Ran Prime95 for 20 to 30 min (can remember) and did not get an error/warnings while staying below 60C

I kept increasing the freq, without touching the core voltage and was able to get to 4.7GHz.
I actually ran Prime95 for 4 hours at 4.7GHz and 1.35V and passed (no errors/warnings) and still keeping below 60C
tried for 4.8GHz at 1.35V and got error/warnings, so I went into bios and set core voltage to 1.4V and this is what I got after 10 mins of Prime95 :

Should I start over and try your method? because I would like to get as high an OC as I can, while being as safe as possible. and if I need to start over I'm ok with that

 

[MeanMachine41]

That would be a very decent overclock and almost unbelievable at 4.7GHz using Air cooler and temps at 60C using P95. Something is incorrect here.

I don't see 4.7GHz anywhere and open HWMonitor reads 4.2GHz and showing MAX frequency at 10247MHz which can't be correct. Also your Core voltage is too high at 1.488V if you want the processor to last. It's best to get a max OC without exceeding 1.4V on the Core.
Up to you how you go about this but your not being safe atm.

 

[dkD0nkeyniks]

That would be a very decent overclock and almost unbelievable at 4.7GHz using Air cooler and temps at 60C using P95. Something is incorrect here.

I don't see 4.7GHz anywhere and open HWMonitor reads 4.2GHz and showing MAX frequency at 10247MHz which can't be correct. Also your Core voltage is too high at 1.488V if you want the processor to last. It's best to get a max OC without exceeding 1.4V on the Core.
Up to you how you go about this but your not being safe atm.

Ok I will start over and just follow you're instructions.

AIDA64 Extreme is what I should be getting correct?

From the guide you sent me earlier it says to disable Core Performance Boost, C1E, Cool n' Quiet, and C6 Support. Is there anything else I should dsable?

 

[MeanMachine41]

That would be a very decent overclock and almost unbelievable at 4.7GHz using Air cooler and temps at 60C using P95. Something is incorrect here.

I don't see 4.7GHz anywhere and open HWMonitor reads 4.2GHz and showing MAX frequency at 10247MHz which can't be correct. Also your Core voltage is too high at 1.488V if you want the processor to last. It's best to get a max OC without exceeding 1.4V on the Core.
Up to you how you go about this but your not being safe atm.

Ok I will start over and just follow you're instructions.

AIDA64 Extreme is what I should be getting correct?

From the guide you sent me earlier it says to disable Core Performance Boost, C1E, Cool n' Quiet, and C6 Support. Is there anything else I should dsable?

Yes the self extracting .exe is what you should get. Its free trial version for a month and that should be long enough to get you sorted.

The guide is correct in that all sleep or Cstates should be disabled as this can affect a decent OC. They are just a power saving feature and can be turned back on when the system is stable. Turbo boost, Cool and Quiet disabled.
Just use your multiplier for the moment to OC at 4.4GHz and a CPU Core voltage of 1.375V, leave the rest on Auto.
You can enable your XMP profile for your RAM.
I want to see what's happening at 4.4GHz fixed frequency before we move on.

Do not make arbitrary changes in Bios without knowing the consequence of the change. The higher you go in voltage the more heat is generated at an exponential rate and the more dangerous it becomes.
Just realize that 100-200Mhz is not going to make much difference in performance and its best to have your OC based on ambient temperatures. A stable OC during Winter may be too hot during Summer months so its best to save profiles accounting for these conditions. Your Bios should allow these profile saves in the Tools section.

 

[dkD0nkeyniks]

That would be a very decent overclock and almost unbelievable at 4.7GHz using Air cooler and temps at 60C using P95. Something is incorrect here.

I don't see 4.7GHz anywhere and open HWMonitor reads 4.2GHz and showing MAX frequency at 10247MHz which can't be correct. Also your Core voltage is too high at 1.488V if you want the processor to last. It's best to get a max OC without exceeding 1.4V on the Core.
Up to you how you go about this but your not being safe atm.

Ok I will start over and just follow you're instructions.

AIDA64 Extreme is what I should be getting correct?

From the guide you sent me earlier it says to disable Core Performance Boost, C1E, Cool n' Quiet, and C6 Support. Is there anything else I should dsable?

Yes the self extracting .exe is what you should get. Its free trial version for a month and that should be long enough to get you sorted.

The guide is correct in that all sleep or Cstates should be disabled as this can affect a decent OC. They are just a power saving feature and can be turned back on when the system is stable. Turbo boost, Cool and Quiet disabled.
Just use your multiplier for the moment to OC at 4.4GHz and a CPU Core voltage of 1.375V, leave the rest on Auto.
You can enable your XMP profile for your RAM.
I want to see what's happening at 4.4GHz fixed frequency before we move on.

Do not make arbitrary changes in Bios without knowing the consequence of the change. The higher you go in voltage the more heat is generated at an exponential rate and the more dangerous it becomes.
Just realize that 100-200Mhz is not going to make much difference in performance and its best to have your OC based on ambient temperatures. A stable OC during Winter may be too hot during Summer months so its best to save profiles accounting for these conditions. Your Bios should allow these profile saves in the Tools section.

Here are my results:
**when I change the Core Voltage in the bios, the Voltage display to the left of where I type the new Voltage in does not change and stay on 1.35V for some reason.

*** I know the core speed display is wrong. For some reason when I use the Snipping Tool the Core Speed and multiplier display drops from 4400MHz and x 22.0
to what you see in the picture

**** I manage to get it to show properly on CPUZ, but I noticed that when the stress test is OFF the Core Voltage display shows somewhere around 1.368V but when I start the test it goes down to around 1.320V

 

[MeanMachine41]

Ok now results are good at 4.2Ghz and temps are excellent, so try for 4.4GHz and test again.
Core voltage is better at 1.332V and if the OC fails at 4.4GHz then raise core voltage in small .010 steps till stable.
If stable then again try 4.6GHz with LLC set to high but not extreme. If you have CPU current Capability then raise this to 120%. Same core voltage and if not stable then increase Core voltage as before. Rinse and repeat. Are you getting the picture.?

Your open source HWMonitor does not show all rail voltages 12V, 5v,and 3.3vto to check your PSU under load.
I use HWMonitor from CPUID as we will need to know these values when trying for max OC to see if you have voltage droop.

Don't be concerned with CPUz readout nor fan control. We have all the info we need from AIDA64 and CPUID HWMonitor.

 

[dkD0nkeyniks]

Ok now results are good at 4.2Ghz and temps are excellent, so try for 4.4GHz and test again.
Core voltage is better at 1.332V and if the OC fails at 4.4GHz then raise core voltage in small .010 steps till stable.
If stable then again try 4.6GHz with LLC set to high but not extreme. If you have CPU current Capability then raise this to 120%. Same core voltage and if not stable then increase Core voltage as before. Rinse and repeat. Are you getting the picture.?

Your open source HWMonitor does not show all rail voltages 12V, 5v,and 3.3vto to check your PSU under load.
I use HWMonitor from CPUID as we will need to know these values when trying for max OC to see if you have voltage droop.

Don't be concerned with CPUz readout nor fan control. We have all the info we need from AIDA64 and CPUID HWMonitor.

Hi sorry for the late response.

I'm confused. The test I ran was for 4.4GHz at 1.375V. Do you want me to bring it down to 4.2GHz at 1.332V, and then do the increment steps up?

 

[MeanMachine41]

Ok now results are good at 4.2Ghz and temps are excellent, so try for 4.4GHz and test again.
Core voltage is better at 1.332V and if the OC fails at 4.4GHz then raise core voltage in small .010 steps till stable.
If stable then again try 4.6GHz with LLC set to high but not extreme. If you have CPU current Capability then raise this to 120%. Same core voltage and if not stable then increase Core voltage as before. Rinse and repeat. Are you getting the picture.?

Your open source HWMonitor does not show all rail voltages 12V, 5v,and 3.3vto to check your PSU under load.
I use HWMonitor from CPUID as we will need to know these values when trying for max OC to see if you have voltage droop.

Don't be concerned with CPUz readout nor fan control. We have all the info we need from AIDA64 and CPUID HWMonitor.

Hi sorry for the late response.

I'm confused. The test I ran was for 4.4GHz at 1.375V. Do you want me to bring it down to 4.2GHz at 1.332V, and then do the increment steps up?

Sorry for the confusion dkD0nkeyniks. Yes the test was for 4.4GHz and you should now try for 4.6GHz.
I want to see all rail voltages and temperatures in CPUID HWMonitor with 100% utilization on all cores.

 

[dkD0nkeyniks]

Here are my Results:
4.6GHz 1.375V and went to Medium LLC (only options were normal, extreme, medium, standard. There was no high)

 

[MeanMachine41]

Excellent results dkD0nkeyniks

Your voltages are steady and no droop at 4.6ghz so your PSU is doing it's job.
Your temperatures are excellent with a good Core voltage. This is a sweet spot and you should save that profile.
OK you can try for 4.7GHz - 4.8GHz without further increasing Core Voltage and see how your temps are.
Remember no more than 1.4V on the core if required for stability.
This is one decent chip you have and definitely above average.

 

[dkD0nkeyniks]

Excellent results dkD0nkeyniks

Your voltages are steady and no droop at 4.6ghz so your PSU is doing it's job.
Your temperatures are excellent with a good Core voltage. This is a sweet spot and you should save that profile.
OK you can try for 4.7GHz - 4.8GHz without further increasing Core Voltage and see how your temps are.
Remember no more than 1.4V on the core if required for stability.
This is one decent chip you have and definitely above average.

Awesome!

so incrementing voltage by 0.01 if I need to increase it but never go over 1.4V.
I am curious, in the guide that you linked to me, it talks about increasing the HTT/FSB, CPU-NB, HT, and DRAM.
What are the advantages of tweaking these? As in, what do each one of them do?

 

[dkD0nkeyniks]

I just tested 4.7GHz while leaving the Core Voltage at 1.375V and here is the result:

 

[MeanMachine41]

Excellent results dkD0nkeyniks

Your voltages are steady and no droop at 4.6ghz so your PSU is doing it's job.
Your temperatures are excellent with a good Core voltage. This is a sweet spot and you should save that profile.
OK you can try for 4.7GHz - 4.8GHz without further increasing Core Voltage and see how your temps are.
Remember no more than 1.4V on the core if required for stability.
This is one decent chip you have and definitely above average.

Awesome!

so incrementing voltage by 0.01 if I need to increase it but never go over 1.4V.
I am curious, in the guide that you linked to me, it talks about increasing the HTT/FSB, CPU-NB, HT, and DRAM.
What are the advantages of tweaking these? As in, what do each one of them do?

Yes tha'ts correct and I say that if you want your CPU to last.

The Front-Side Bus (FSB) is the interface that carries data between the central processing unit (CPU) and a memory controller hub, known as the northbridge and connects the CPU (chipset) with RAM memory and L2 cache. AMD CPUs however have the IMC (Integrated Memory Controller) built into the CPU.

Little to gain with FSB overclocks and usually with poor results and improper settings may cause issues such as hardware lockups, data corruption.
OCing the FSB will in effect, increase your HHT and can help with higher frequency RAM. If you want to go that way, just increase FSB in small amounts and adjust RAM frequency to match.
I have an FX-9590 and tried those settings in the guide without any noticeable increase in performance.
Best leave it at default as it is designed to do IMAO.

 

[dkD0nkeyniks]

Excellent results dkD0nkeyniks

Your voltages are steady and no droop at 4.6ghz so your PSU is doing it's job.
Your temperatures are excellent with a good Core voltage. This is a sweet spot and you should save that profile.
OK you can try for 4.7GHz - 4.8GHz without further increasing Core Voltage and see how your temps are.
Remember no more than 1.4V on the core if required for stability.
This is one decent chip you have and definitely above average.

Awesome!

so incrementing voltage by 0.01 if I need to increase it but never go over 1.4V.
I am curious, in the guide that you linked to me, it talks about increasing the HTT/FSB, CPU-NB, HT, and DRAM.
What are the advantages of tweaking these? As in, what do each one of them do?

Yes tha'ts correct and I say that if you want your CPU to last.

The Front-Side Bus (FSB) is the interface that carries data between the central processing unit (CPU) and a memory controller hub, known as the northbridge and connects the CPU (chipset) with RAM memory and L2 cache. AMD CPUs however have the IMC (Integrated Memory Controller) built into the CPU.

Little to gain with FSB overclocks and usually with poor results and improper settings may cause issues such as hardware lockups, data corruption.
OCing the FSB will in effect, increase your HHT and can help with higher frequency RAM. If you want to go that way, just increase FSB in small amounts and adjust RAM frequency to match.
I have an FX-9590 and tried those settings in the guide without any noticeable increase in performance.
Best leave it at default as it is designed to do IMAO.

Hey so I couldn't get a hardware failure warning when I try to go for 4.8GHz (which I had to raise core voltage to 1.395V)
so I dropped back to 4.7GHz at 1.375V (which passed the AIDA64 test when I ran it for 10 mins last night: posted the results in a previous reply) I decided to test again this time around I got blue screened after 15 mins or so and pc restarted.
I went into bios and changed from 1.375V to 1.385V while staying at 4.7GHz
I went back into AIDA 64 and got another PC restart, this time around 19 mins

Should I just go back to 4.6GHz at 1.375V? or Should I not be running AIDA64 for more than 10 mins?

 

[MeanMachine41]

I'm not familiar with all the Bios settings available with your MB dkD0nkeyniks, However you are close to MAX OC at 4.6GHz and chasing the 100-200MHz will make no difference. Better to be stable than have the occasional crash, although you will never encounter stress as applied by the stress tester during normal conditions.
You now have the tools and know-how to OC and there's no problem trying to improve your OC. Some have OCed to 4.8GHz on that chip by exceeding 1.4V on the core however, I don't recommend it.

The problem and probable reason that your higher OCs are failing would be due to your VRMs (Voltage Regulator Modules) on the MB overheating. Some MBs have better and more substantial VRMs and this is refered to as "power phase control" In other words, Some MBs OC better than others.

To more fully understand what your dealing with, Go here: http://www.overclock.net/t/943109/about-vrms-mosfets-motherboard-safety-with-125w-tdp-processors

 

[dkD0nkeyniks]

I'm not familiar with all the Bios settings available with your MB dkD0nkeyniks, However you are close to MAX OC at 4.6GHz and chasing the 100-200MHz will make no difference. Better to be stable than have the occasional crash, although you will never encounter stress as applied by the stress tester during normal conditions.
You now have the tools and know-how to OC and there's no problem trying to improve your OC. Some have OCed to 4.8GHz on that chip by exceeding 1.4V on the core however, I don't recommend it.

The problem and probable reason that your higher OCs are failing would be due to your VRMs (Voltage Regulator Modules) on the MB overheating. Some MBs have better and more substantial VRMs and this is refered to as "power phase control" In other words, Some MBs OC better than others.

To more fully understand what your dealing with, Go here: http://www.overclock.net/t/943109/about-vrms-mosfets-motherboard-safety-with-125w-tdp-processors

Yeah I went back down to 4.6GHz at 1.375V and ran for 25+mins and did not get any errors, so I am gonna stick with that
Thanks for helping me each step of the way!

 

[MeanMachine41]

dkD0nkeyniks Said:
Yeah I went back down to 4.6GHz at 1.375V and ran for 25+mins and did not get any errors, so I am gonna stick with that
Thanks for helping me each step of the way!
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Your Welcome dkD0nkeyniks Glad I could help.