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hello, was wondering if asus 5 way optimization is the way to go for a new builder and new overclocker or if i should do it manually? any help would be great.

i have used asus 5 way, and got it to 4.3ghz and 1.345 max volt, i tried it before setting it to 4.3 and got it to 4.7ghz and about under 1.4volts, think it was around 1.6v but wanted to be in the safe zone so moved it down a bit.


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Hi,
Your voltages are pretty high, i am running i7 2600k @4.2Ghz with 1.150V , while my brother runs his i5 4690k @4.7Ghz with 1.275v.
You just simply do the overclock manually.
Go to BIOS, and under the Tab-Tweak, go to CPU Ratio, set it manually/sync all cores and set it to 40, while the BCLK is at 100 (40x100=4000Mhz or 4.0Ghz), set the voltage to auto.
Go into desktop and try the overclock with prime 95, real temp, and CPUZ to see the temperatures and voltages used (observe the voltage used during full stres).
After the stress test, you will have a broad picture where your overclock stands in therms of temperature and voltage.

Mind you, there is also the ''silicon lottery'' in question, some CPU's can reach 5.0Ghz , while some...
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Hi,
Your voltages are pretty high, i am running i7 2600k @4.2Ghz with 1.150V , while my brother runs his i5 4690k @4.7Ghz with 1.275v.
You just simply do the overclock manually.
Go to BIOS, and under the Tab-Tweak, go to CPU Ratio, set it manually/sync all cores and set it to 40, while the BCLK is at 100 (40x100=4000Mhz or 4.0Ghz), set the voltage to auto.
Go into desktop and try the overclock with prime 95, real temp, and CPUZ to see the temperatures and voltages used (observe the voltage used during full stres).
After the stress test, you will have a broad picture where your overclock stands in therms of temperature and voltage.

Mind you, there is also the ''silicon lottery'' in question, some CPU's can reach 5.0Ghz , while some can't even pass 4.4Ghz.

My guideline for OC (maybe not 100% accurate, you will have to find your own settings for core clock and voltage)

-4.0Ghz @ 1.110V
-4.1Ghz @ 1.125V
-4.2Ghz @ 1.150V
-4.3Ghz @ 1.175V
-4.4Ghz @ 1.200V
-4.5Ghz @ 1.250V

Beyond that, do not go over 1.350V

Also before you try the manual overclock, enter the BIOS and set everything to default values.
 
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As simple and convenient as the ASUS software is, it runs as a program installed on Windows. Meaning that it is possible for problems in Windows to cause problems in the program -and then possibly your OC settings. I personally feel that having the software/Windows as kind of a "middle man" between you and your mobo/CPU is unnecessary.

I recommend cutting out the middle man and making changes directly in BIOS.

I would start with resetting everything, and then start by just adjusting by changing the ratio on each core. If your bus is at 100 (which it should be by default) change each core to say 40 to start with - 40 x 100 = 4000 Mhz = 4.0Ghz. I believe you could pull that off -if not more- without even touching the voltage.

Once you start crashing/instability - then start slowly increasing the voltage. Make sure you are monitoring your temperatures.! Aida64 and RealTempGT are both great (and free) programs that can easily do this.
 
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Agreed! I stepped away for a minute and completed my post - I didn't see yours.
 
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Although, I would use something else other than Prime95 to benchmark. It has been known to overtax the last two generations of Intel CPUs and skew temps.

Aida64 comes with benchmarks -specifically the "Stability" benchmark. You can monitor temps and speeds all on one window.
 
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Did you set your entire BIOS back to defaults, or just change back the OC settings? I would reset entire BIOS back to default. But as long as your CPU temps are good and don't keep rising -it should hit a ceiling and your cooling should keep it hovering around your highest temp under full load. I would give the Aida64 "System stability Test" (little button that looks like a graph on top/menu-bar area) a good 20-30 minute run and verify that the temps level out and that you are stable.
 
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Did you set your entire BIOS back to defaults, or just change back the OC settings? I would reset entire BIOS back to default. But as long as your CPU temps are good and don't keep rising -it should hit a ceiling and your cooling should keep it hovering around your highest temp under full load. I would give the Aida64 "System stability Test" (little button that looks like a graph on top/menu-bar area) a good 20-30 minute run and verify that the temps level out and that you are stable.
 
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Yeah I would say that is fine. The main thing you need to worry about is your temps. The higher the voltage the higher the temperatures will be. So, as long as your temps don't get to high under full load/benchmark, you are good to go.

Also remember that it wont always be running at 1.4 -only under load- that is unless you set the voltage manually/statically, and you have Intel Speed Step enabled so it throttles the CPU and volts down when there is no load on the CPU.

Some people prefer to set a static voltage and turn off the Speed stepping. This way the CPU is always running at the OC speed and the voltage you set. Arguably, this can be more stable -although you are potentially shortening the lifespan of your chip. There is no real need to have the CPU running at full OC speed all the time - when you benchmark/utilize the CPU it will step up to the speed/voltage, and then drop back down when the system is idle.

Making sure your temps don't keep spiking and/or are not to high is key.
 
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Personally, 78C is a little bit high for my comfort level. My i7-5820k is running at 4.1Ghz on air cooling (EVO 212 -same as you) and my highest temps are 60-65C under full load and my voltage is at 1.25 - on auto setting as well.

You have a newer chip/motherboard -so it will vary slightly. But Intel chips have a TJmax temp of ~95c -meaning if it hits that temp it will crash the system or throttle back to avoid damage.

You may want to try re-applying the heat sink making sure to that the thermal paste is evenly spread and covering the entire surface of the chip. Let it set for a bit and re-run benchmarks.

Below is a link that describes how you should apply thermal paste depending on your CPU, it is arctic silver's brand site -but the guide will work for any paste.
http://www.arcticsilver.com/intel_application_method.html#

Frankly, if you want to OC upwards and above of 4.1Ghz - liquid cooling is the only way to go.
 
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yeah temp idle is at 30, and yeah i am at 4.2ghz atm, thats as high as i wanted to go and temp and volts stay same as 4.0, but i'm pretty sure the paste is even, because i might have even put to much when setting it, could it be that the heat sink isn't tightened enough?
 
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after changing it back to 4.1 and stress testing and seeing it close to 80c i just went back to default and am thinking of buying a different type of thermal paste, i used the one that came with the heat sink, any recommendations?
 
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Too much paste can make things way worse - don't put too much - just a thin layer. In your case a vertical line down the middle form top to bottom. Then twist the heat-sink as you set it into 'move it around' a little bit.

Having way too much paste can be worse than having to little paste....
 
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ah thanks for the tip, i took it out, seems the paste didn't spread evenly about 85% of the cpu was covered, guess i'll be doing the straight line one now. hope i do it right because would suck to do it again, i don't trust myself lol.
 
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When you run the aida64 stability test, it maxes out CPU and RAM to 100%. So it will sometimes "hang" because it basically almost leaves no room for itself to run -if that makes any sense - this happens more often if you have other apps open. Turn off Anti-Virus and close all browsers and windows while doing the stability test and it will happen less.
 
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70C under max load is fine -just make sure you run it for a good 30 min to an hour to make sure the temp levels out at around 70C and doesn't eventually start creeping up. Also, If you clear the FPU checkbox it will put a lot less stress on the system,

Also, if you know your memory is stable -you can clear that checkbox -and just benchmark the CPU, you will avoid that freezing you were talking about because your system will have free RAM to work with.

 
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Yeah I know that EVO bracket is annoying!! But if you get it on there nice and good it performs well. If you get new paste in the future -go with Arctic Silver - arguably the best! Been using it for 10 years.

It was probably too much paste that was causing those 80C and up temps. I'm glad you got it working.
 
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