Question Need help picking parts for a gaming PC.

[Mr.snobdam]

I'm helping my brother to build his first pc but I am not the best at picking parts, would be great if someone could help me a bit.

System Builder

pcpartpicker.com

He mainly plays Minecraft and wants to be able to play it at 144fps and it would be nice if he could play some other (maybe more GPU based) games at 60fps. I feel like this system would work but I could probably make it a lot cheaper so if anyone has some feedback I would appreciate it!

PS: it would be nice if all parts can be bought from Amazon.

 

[Eximo]

You have linked to the basic PCPartPicker system builder. To link your specific copy the link right above the parts list. Or click the BB option at the top right of the build list and copy that over.

 

[Why_Me]

I'm helping my brother to build his first pc but I am not the best at picking parts, would be great if someone could help me a bit.

System Builder

pcpartpicker.com

He mainly plays Minecraft and wants to be able to play it at 144fps and it would be nice if he could play some other (maybe more GPU based) games at 60fps. I feel like this system would work but I could probably make it a lot cheaper so if anyone has some feedback I would appreciate it!

What's your budget and monitor resolution or is the monitor to be included in the build?

 

[Mr.snobdam]

You have linked to the basic PCPartPicker system builder. To link your specific copy the link right above the parts list. Or click the BB option at the top right of the build list and copy that over.

My bad, i think this one should work:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8sw7C6

 

[Mr.snobdam]

What's your budget and monitor resolution or is the monitor to be included in the build?

Monitor is 144hz and 1080p and I already have it.
The budget is around €800 but the cheaper the better as long as it reaches the right fps

 

[Eximo]

We can do a little better than that for the money. Not really any cheaper though.

A little more bling, faster video card (double the VRAM, which will help later on)

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor ($169.94 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Vetroo V5 52 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B660-PLUS D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($62.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3050 8GB 8 GB XC GAMING Video Card ($329.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P360A ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GA 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $947.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-06-15 15:07 EDT-0400

 

[Eximo]

Your previous build with the 5600X swapped out for a Ryzen 5500 and the RTX 3050 swapped in:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5500 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($138.97 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($62.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($49.99 @ Western Digital)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3050 8GB 8 GB XC GAMING Video Card ($329.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GA 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $821.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-06-15 15:09 EDT-0400

 

[Mr.snobdam]

Your previous build with the 5600X swapped out for a Ryzen 5500 and the RTX 3050 swapped in:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5500 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($138.97 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($62.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($49.99 @ Western Digital)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3050 8GB 8 GB XC GAMING Video Card ($329.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GA 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $821.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-06-15 15:09 EDT-0400

Do you think something like this would be the minimum to get the 144fps in Minecraft and 60fps in some other games? Or could it be downgraded in some way?

 

[Why_Me]

Monitor is 144hz and 1080p and I already have it.
The budget is around €800 but the cheaper the better as long as it reaches the right fps

https://www.box.co.uk/LANCOOL-205-MESH-BLA-Lian-Li-Lancool-205-Mesh-Tempered-Glass-_3777523.html
Lian-Li Lancool 205 Mesh Mid Tower Case £67.99

https://lian-li.com/product/lancool-205/

https://www.box.co.uk/PRIME-B660M-A-WIFI-D4-ASUS-PRIME-B660M-A-WIFI-D4-Motherboard_4108117.html
ASUS PRIME B660M-A WIFI D4 £89.16

PRIME B660M-A WIFI D4｜Motherboards｜ASUS Global

ASUS Prime series is expertly engineered to unleash the full potential of AMD and Intel processors. Boasting a robust power design, comprehensive cooling solutions and intelligent tuning options, Prime series motherboards provide daily users and DIY PC builders a range of performance tuning...

www.asus.com

https://www.awd-it.co.uk/components/processors/intel/socket-1700-alder-lake/intel-core-i5-12400f-six-core-2-50ghz-cpu-alder-lake-processor-lga-1700.html
Intel Core i5-12400F £163.99

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...2400f-processor-18m-cache-up-to-4-40-ghz.html

https://www.technextday.co.uk/product/deepcool-gammaxx-gte-v2-black-universal-socket-120mm-pwm-1650rpm-black-fan-cpu-cooler
DeepCool GAMMAXX GTE V2 BLACK CPU Cooler £27.83

https://www.deepcool.com/products/Cooling/cpuaircoolers/2021/11879.shtml

https://www.ebuyer.com/1265314-king...-x-8gb-3200mhz-ddr4-ram-black-kf432c16bbk2-16
Kingston FURY Beast DDR4 3200MHz 16GB (2x8GB) CL16 £56.99

https://www.ebuyer.com/1416628-msi-...ventus-2x-graphics-card-rtx-3050-ventus-2x-8g
MSI GeForce RTX 3050 8GB VENTUS 2X Graphics Card £274.98

i5 12400 / 12400F gaming benchmarks.

 

[Eximo]

Well, you were already looking at hundreds of FPS for minecraft. It is the 'other' games where a faster GPU will come in handy. Also going to be ALOT longer before this needs to be replaced. Another reason I like the Intel build is there is room for some improvement on the CPU in the future. (It also looks cooler, which should appeal to younger people).

Minecraft stock will run on a potato. But there are modifications, shaders, texture packs, ray-tracing (by the by, RTX3050 can do that last one, the GTX1650 would not) to consider.

Really start running into bad value for money below the RX6600 and RTX3050. GTX1650 is a decent upgrade to an existing low power system, but not something I would pick for a new build.

 

[Mr.snobdam]

https://www.box.co.uk/LANCOOL-205-MESH-BLA-Lian-Li-Lancool-205-Mesh-Tempered-Glass-_3777523.html
Lian-Li Lancool 205 Mesh Mid Tower Case £67.99

https://lian-li.com/product/lancool-205/

https://www.box.co.uk/PRIME-B660M-A-WIFI-D4-ASUS-PRIME-B660M-A-WIFI-D4-Motherboard_4108117.html
ASUS PRIME B660M-A WIFI D4 £89.16

PRIME B660M-A WIFI D4｜Motherboards｜ASUS Global

ASUS Prime series is expertly engineered to unleash the full potential of AMD and Intel processors. Boasting a robust power design, comprehensive cooling solutions and intelligent tuning options, Prime series motherboards provide daily users and DIY PC builders a range of performance tuning...

www.asus.com

https://www.awd-it.co.uk/components/processors/intel/socket-1700-alder-lake/intel-core-i5-12400f-six-core-2-50ghz-cpu-alder-lake-processor-lga-1700.html
Intel Core i5-12400F £163.99

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...2400f-processor-18m-cache-up-to-4-40-ghz.html

https://www.technextday.co.uk/product/deepcool-gammaxx-gte-v2-black-universal-socket-120mm-pwm-1650rpm-black-fan-cpu-cooler
DeepCool GAMMAXX GTE V2 BLACK CPU Cooler £27.83

https://www.deepcool.com/products/Cooling/cpuaircoolers/2021/11879.shtml

https://www.ebuyer.com/1265314-king...-x-8gb-3200mhz-ddr4-ram-black-kf432c16bbk2-16
Kingston FURY Beast DDR4 3200MHz 16GB (2x8GB) CL16 £56.99

https://www.technextday.co.uk/product/gigabyte-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3050-8gb-eagle-lhr-graphics-card
Gigabyte NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 8GB EAGLE LHR Graphics Card £310.86

i5 12400 / 12400F gaming benchmarks.

Isn't this missing a graphics card?

 

[Mr.snobdam]

Well, you were already looking at hundreds of FPS for minecraft. It is the 'other' games where a faster GPU will come in handy. Also going to be ALOT longer before this needs to be replaced. Another reason I like the Intel build is there is room for some improvement on the CPU in the future. (It also looks cooler, which should appeal to younger people).

Minecraft stock will run on a potato. But there are modifications, shaders, texture packs, ray-tracing (by the by, RTX3050 can do that last one, the GTX1650 would not) to consider.

Really start running into bad value for money below the RX6600 and RTX3050. GTX1650 is a decent upgrade to an existing low power system, but not something I would pick for a new build.

Ok I'll see if I can get him to up his budget a bit 😉

 

[Why_Me]

Isn't this missing a graphics card?

Check that post now. ^^

 

[Zerk2012]

Isn't this missing a graphics card?

What country do you live in your using US dollars but that is not what you said?

Edit. Prices very depending on where you live.

 

[Eximo]

Ok I'll see if I can get him to up his budget a bit 😉

We can always go lower, just depends on where you want to compromise. There is also the used market to look at. Should be tons of used mining GPUs flooding the markets about now.

GTX 1650 launched in 2019 and is the cheap version of the RTX 20 series.
GTX3050 launched in January of this year. With 8GB of VRAM it has a much better chance of an enjoyable experience with more recent games and games that are coming out. Going to be a lot of gaming laptops with the lighter version of this GPU.

If it is a specific Euro country, then we could be more definitive.

 

[Mr.snobdam]

What country do you live in your using US dollars but that is not what you said?

Edit. Prices very depending on where you live.

Oh yeah I should have propably mentioned that, i live in the Netherlands so I use euro's.

 

[Eximo]

A little worse, but not too bad.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i3-12100F 3.3 GHz Quad-Core Processor (€119.00 @ Amazon Netherlands)
Motherboard: ASRock B660M Steel Legend Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (€198.62 @ Amazon Netherlands)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (€64.90 @ Amazon Netherlands)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN570 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (€54.90 @ Amazon Netherlands)
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Speedster SWFT 210 Video Card (€332.29 @ Amazon Netherlands)
Case: Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case (€59.90 @ Amazon Netherlands)
Power Supply: Cooler Master MWE Bronze V2 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€58.76 @ Amazon Netherlands)
Total: €888.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-06-15 22:12 CEST+0200


If I were to make decent price/performance choices and with a mind towards Minecraft RTX.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor (€189.00 @ Amazon Netherlands)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition 57.3 CFM CPU Cooler (€44.95 @ Amazon Netherlands)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B660-PLUS D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (€167.99 @ Amazon Netherlands)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (€64.90 @ Amazon Netherlands)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN750 SE 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (€112.00 @ Amazon Netherlands)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3050 8GB 8 GB VENTUS 2X OC Video Card (€379.00 @ Amazon Netherlands)
Case: BitFenix Nova Mesh SE ATX Mid Tower Case (€65.66 @ Amazon Netherlands)
Power Supply: Cooler Master MWE Bronze V2 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€58.76 @ Amazon Netherlands)
Total: €1082.26
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-06-15 22:17 CEST+0200