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More info?)
David.... in researching, you name is everywhere, you are the guru!! Thank
you!
If this is the case, and it make sense, how are both PowerLeap and
Upgradeware claiming it works? In Upgradwares case, I tried 2 adapters/
CPU's, same results.
I wonder about a few things, which I am trying to find out- was it tested to
work under XP/ SP2, also, doesn't XP incorporate their own software version
of something Intel added (idling/stepping something like that...?), and, is
there software or even BIOS settings that might better control the CPU
and/or memory?
"Uncle Vinnie" <vinrin57@nospam.optonline.net> wrote in message
news:O2lpe.9037$hg.8865@fe12.lga...
>I have not put a meter to it however I have a few programs... Intel's
>Monitor as well as CPUZ, Sandra, CPUID...
>
> I know software isn't the best way to tell...
>
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> "David Maynard" <nospam@private.net> wrote in message
> news:11abivbt3dro08f@corp.supernews.com...
>> Uncle Vinnie wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, the board is indeed an Intel D815EEA. Using XP Home. Bios is Intel
>>> Bios P10. I am not sure what the number signify- 2, 3, Automatic- It
>>> has
>>> something to do with configuring SDRam, as follows: CAS latency-
>>> 3,2,Auto, RAS to CAS 3,2,Auto, RAS Precharge, 3,2, Auto.
>>>
>>> I have left everything as Auto...
>>>
>>> Because I have had the same problems on 2 different boards, 2 different
>>> adapters, 1.2 piii's, Power Supplies, it is not any one broken item.
>>> What frustrates me is that in all cases, the board may take minutes to
>>> restart... where the cpu fan may not go on, or the power light might
>>> not.. I would think this might be something overclockers might
>>> recognize...
>>>
>>> Thanks Phil... your insight is greatly needed and appreciated!
>>
>> I haven't used that particular board but it sounds suspiciously like the
>> Vcore regulator can't handle the load and is OC shutting down. Which
>> would not be terribly surprising because the Tualatins draw more current,
>> at a lower voltage, than the board was originally designed for. And it
>> would be even worse if the adapter is setting Vcore too high. And then
>> there's the issue of what the Vcore reg is interpreting the setting as
>> since it may not have been originally designed to know what those low
>> Vcore settings mean (so it may put out nothing, or default to the lowest
>> thing it knows, which would be too high).
>>
>> Have you put a meter to it and checked Vcore?
>>
>>
>>> "Phil Weldon" <notdiscosed@example.com> wrote in message
>>> news:6Umoe.15388$w21.8279@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>>>
>>>>Investigation is the way to go, but I can't comment intelligently
>>>>without
>>>>further knowledge. Perhaps if you could answer a few questions;
>>>>
>>>>Is your motherboard produced by Intel? I ask because the
>>>>indentification
>>>>you gave is so close to an Intel chipset name.
>>>>
>>>>Directions, settings, and descriptions vary greatly from BIOS to BIOS.
>>>>Not only are there more than one BIOS manufacturer, but motherboard
>>>>manufacturers choose what the BIOS displays and what modifications to
>>>>make. Is there any further description of exactly what the choices of
>>>>'automatic', '3', and '2' actually DO, included in the manual?
>>>>
>>>>What operating system do you use? Windows 2000 and Windows XP generate
>>>>low-power-consumption-instructions what the CPU is idle; consequently
>>>>the
>>>>CPU is unlikely to over heat when not loaded by tasks, and should not be
>>>>overheating, even with a poor cooling solution.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>About the 'overheating' possibility. If the problem IS overheating, it
>>>>should not take several minutes to cool off before being able to boot up
>>>>again. You should be able to reboot almost immediately, as the heat
>>>>stored in the CPU is very small. Is there no report of the 'CPU
>>>>temperature' in the BIOS? This reading in the BIOS is not too useful,
>>>>as
>>>>the CPU does not generate very much heat before the operating system is
>>>>loaded.
>>>>
>>>>People who use this newsgroup tend not to have Intel motherboards, so to
>>>>get much in the way of help, if you DO have an Intel motherboard, you
>>>>need
>>>>to give a lot more information to get help.
>>>>
>>>>Phil Weldon
>>>>
>>>>"Uncle Vinnie" <vinrin57@nospam.optonline.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:l1hoe.39776$NZ1.5855@fe09.lga...
>>>>
>>>>>I just came across something.. could it be the cpu is overheating???? I
>>>>>also found something, go into BIOS and change the settings from
>>>>>automatic,
>>>>>to '3' (versus '2'), this is uncharted territory for me.. does it make
>>>>>sense??
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Phil Weldon" <notdiscosed@example.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:GZ3oe.15002$w21.2132@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Uncle Vinnie" asks "The adaptor is supposed to correct voltage.. is
>>>>>>there a way, software wise, to check or even adjust?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The following are just suggestions, as I am not familiar with the
>>>>>>adapter nor the motherboard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>An Intel CPU sets its default core voltage with logic levels present
>>>>>>at
>>>>>>certain pins; the adapter changes the default core voltage by
>>>>>>intercepting the pins and presenting different logic levels to the CPU
>>>>>>socket on the motherboard. As I remember, the adapter also provides
>>>>>>Vcc
>>>>>>to pins on the CPU that would not be supplied from the motherboard
>>>>>>(also
>>>>>>by intercepting the pins from the motherboard socket. Unless there
>>>>>>are
>>>>>>jumpers on the adapter (or unless there is installable software
>>>>>>provided
>>>>>>with the adapter) you won't be able to vary the Vcc voltage provided
>>>>>>by
>>>>>>the adapter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If the motherboard has a chip that monitors parameters like supply
>>>>>>voltages, CPU voltage, CPU temperature, motherboard temperature, fan
>>>>>>speeds, etc., then software like MotherBoard Monitor can display the
>>>>>>readings in Windows, either on request, or on the right side of the
>>>>>>task
>>>>>>bar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If, as it seems, you have an Intel motherboard, don't expect much in
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>way of available adjustments. Intel motherboards are designed and
>>>>>>constructed to be very stable... but also to accept only specified
>>>>>>CPUs
>>>>>>with no changable parameters. I once had an Intel motherboard that
>>>>>>would accept Celerons without L2 caches, but not those with. Intel
>>>>>>never issued any BIOS update to allow use of anything but the original
>>>>>>two Celeron models. Consequently I have never since purchased an Intel
>>>>>>motherboard. I suspect you just may be out of luck.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Phil Weldon
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Uncle Vinnie" <vinrin57@nospam.optonline.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:7U2oe.5210$HP1.2772@fe08.lga...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Good question... I believe all is well with the fan/heatsink. I have
>>>>>>>the same set up in my Compaq, no problems...I could double check...
>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>is very tight....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The adapter is supposed to correct voltage.. is there a way, software
>>>>>>>wise, to check or even adjust?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Pat" <no@spamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:42a07f9c$1_1@spool9-west.superfeed.net...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Uncle Vinnie wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I am trying to upgrade an Intel D815EEa with a 1.2 Piii and
>>>>>>>>>Upgradeware adaptor, but it has been crashing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>This board, similar to one in a Dell Dimension 4100, has been
>>>>>>>>>tested
>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>work with both the PowerLeap and Upgradeware adaptors. In my case,
>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>board runs fine with an 800mhz Piii. I have experienced
>>>>>>>>>instability
>>>>>>>>>when using the adaptor/1.2 combo, even with the specified Bios P10.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I believe it's must be hardware related, using the adaptor and a
>>>>>>>>>1.2
>>>>>>>>>Piii. I have
>>>>>>>>>swapped the adapters and 1.2's from my Compaq in an effort to see
>>>>>>>>>if
>>>>>>>>>it's a
>>>>>>>>>particular adapter, a particular CPU, and no difference. Same for
>>>>>>>>>memory
>>>>>>>>>(different speeds, brands, etc..), power supply, hard drives, even
>>>>>>>>>motherboards... no luck. Yet both claim it should work...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The reason I believe it's hardware is because when the system does
>>>>>>>>>go
>>>>>>>>>dead
>>>>>>>>>(lights on) or BSOD, it might take minutes, unplugged, before it
>>>>>>>>>will
>>>>>>>>>go
>>>>>>>>>back on again. Or even a clearing of the CMOS.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>It's running fine at 800... but I wish I could resolve the
>>>>>>>>>issue....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>You guys are experts in this area, can you give me some insight as
>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>where to look, adjustments to make to the Bios, etc, which has been
>>>>>>>>>cleared... and left at it's defaults, which are automatic,....
>>>>>>>>>thank
>>>>>>>>>you!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Just a thought... is the voltage too high? causing it to overheat,
>>>>>>>>then taking a few minutes to cool down before it will power up
>>>>>>>>again?
>>>>>>>>Or is the heatsink properly mounted? I seem to remember that adaptor
>>>>>>>>was a PITA to mount the heatsink and CPU into.
>>>>>>>>
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