need help which laptop best for gaming and future proof

[goldsmit409]

Hi I am planning to buy a laptop here are the few I shortlisted can you guys tell me which Is the way to go
This is the dell with 8850 ddr5 but comparatively I see it 4500u is not great
http://www.flipkart.com/dell-inspiron-15-laptop-4th-gen-ci7-8gb-1tb-win8-2gb-graph/p/itmdpzjm3hyzfbfg?pid=COMDPZJC9STYFRP9&otracker=browse&pageNum=1

This lenovo is almost final only thing making me think is the ddr3 740m will it be future proof? Also If it's 64 bit or 128 I m not sure
But it 4207mq is great also I get a 8gb ssd in a very nice price the spot
http://www.flipkart.com/lenovo-ideapad-z510-59-398016-laptop-4th-gen-ci7-8gb-1tb-8gb-ssd-win8-1-2gb-graph/p/itmdsj3yfucyaddr?pid=COMDSJ3XGGH88QZD&otracker=browse&pageNum=1

Here i5 4200m is good but again 740m for such a price difference
http://www.flipkart.com/hp-envy-15-j110tx-laptop-4th-gen-ci5-8gb-1-tb-win8-1-2gb-graph/p/itmdryz5r3thcj7n?pid=COMDRYNYKHBXWSGH&otracker=browse&pageNum=1

Finally this, a little over my budget but then again it 4200m will be good I think and it has 740m n14p gt1 I think it's the slides version with ddr5 also with the lenovo ultrabay so is it worth all the money?
http://www.flipkart.com/lenovo-ideapad-y510p-59-389687-laptop-4th-gen-ci5-8gb-1tb-win8-2gb-graph/p/itmdstxzmjmqwzhk?pid=COMDSTXHU8WB8UVZ&otracker=browse&pageNum=1

My budget is almost 60000k~950$
I am looking to game I know laptop are not great for gaming and all but still I have to have portability I need to be future proof
My last laptop with core2duo and hd4670 was bought on 2010 and lasted with me all the way till now n played all I could throw on it until recently
So guys plz help me out
Also I am looking to develop for windows phone 8 it's sdk needs hardware virtualization so above processors support that?

Thanx a lot guys it will be great help

 

[lmaonade200]

if you want to get a gaming laptop, I'd say look less at casual consumer brands like lenovo and dell (though they do offer top line laptops that can game), and more at custom/gaming laptop boutiques like CyberPowerPC, iBuyPower, Sager, Alienware, etc.

what's your budget? a powerful gaming laptop can go for anywhere from $1000-$2000

 

[goldsmit409]

@lmaonade200 I updated the question
Before it dint show the whole of it

 

[lmaonade200]

okay, out of all of the ones you listed, the best one would be the first one, the i7 4500U + 8850M, the CPU is a low powered variant, but that can't be helped when you need graphics power to run games well, it'll turbo boost higher when needed so imo it'll be fine

to game with higher settings on a laptop you need a high end graphics chip, a DDR3 GT740M will not cut it, it still depends on what kind of games you want to play, if it's not too demanding then get a stronger CPU. If you want to play the latest and greatest games, you'll need a graphics chip with GDDR5 memory, or the bandwidth will not be able to keep up

 

[goldsmit409]

I am looking to play games like battlefield 4 assassin creed 4 cod ghost and others
So will it 4500u cut it with a 8850 it's that I was really impressed with lenovo laptop with 4702mq and also it had a backlog keyboard

 

[lmaonade200]

if you want to play those games then the 8850 is your best bet, most of the newer games nowadays are more graphics intensive than CPU intensive.

a strong processor like an i7 4700mq is nice but a GT740m will not run these games very well, if at all

 

[goldsmit409]

http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-HD-8850M-vs-GeForce-GT-740M

www.game-debate.com/gpu/index.php?gid=1852&gid2=1484&compare=geforce-gt-740m-64-bit-edition-vs-radeon-hd-8850m-2gb-gddr5

 

[lmaonade200]

memory bandwidth in the 8850M is much better, which is needed when you're running games that will transfer huge amounts of information through your graphics chip.

 

[g-unit1111]

The bad thing is there's absolutely no such thing as future proofing when it comes to laptops. The only thing you can really upgrade is the RAM and hard drive. Everything else is pretty much made for that laptop. For gaming the best laptop GPUs are the GTX 755M and the Radeon 8850M, but keep in mind that they're not their desktop equivalents.

 

[aakarshan]

The 740M in lenovo is 64 bit not 128 bit.so, that's out of the question.
Get this laptop http://www.flipkart.com/samsung-np550p5c-s05in-laptop-3rd-gen-ci7-8gb-1tb-win8-2gb-graph/p/itmdhwrq5xguxyvz it is perfect for daily purpose.

 

[goldsmit409]

i realize that i could a rig with such money but i cant lose the portability option....
also the budget is also the constraint to me or else i had my eye on this one...
http://www.flipkart.com/lenovo-ideapad-y510-59-390016-laptop-4th-gen-ci7-8gb-1tb-win8-2gb-graph/p/itmdr5tthexkfgrf?pid=COMDZ59FESCW6E46

 

[goldsmit409]

samsung??
isnt 8850m better then 630m????

 

[aakarshan]

It's 650m

 

[goldsmit409]

oh ya sorry 650m still according to notebookcheck it seems 8850m is better
n m not sure for samsung for a laptop is it good???

 

[aakarshan]

Samsung is a reliable company.Both cards are almost equal.Your i7 4200u will bottleneck the gpu.

 

[lmaonade200]

between those 2 laptops, the 8850M is a bit faster than the GT 650M, it has a faster memory type but is clocked slower, but it still wins out by just a little bit, especially if both are similarly clocked. In the samsung though you get a much stronger CPU.

 

[aakarshan]

between those 2 laptops, the 8850M is a bit faster than the GT 650M, it has a faster memory type but is clocked slower, but it still wins out by just a little bit, especially if both are similarly clocked. In the samsung though you get a much stronger CPU.

right.

 

[goldsmit409]

how about lenovo y510p it has i5 4200m with 750m with gddr5
i see that i5 4200m wil perform better then i7 4500u also i get a better gpu
i dont wanna go for samsung so
dell 3537 for 60990 INR i7 4500m-8gb-1tb-2gb 8850m
lenovo z510 59000INR i7 4702qm-8gb-1tb-2b 740m
lenovo y510p 69000INR i5 4200m-8gb-1tb-2b 750m i think this one is sli ready and as lenovo has a ultrabay i could go extra graphic card or cooling fan if it really worth the money what say guys???
whats my best bet???

 

[aakarshan]

not a single laptop in india come with sli.the third option y510p will be best .

 

[themaskofwraith]

http://www.flipkart.com/lenovo-ideapad-z510-59-398016-laptop-4th-gen-ci7-8gb-1tb-8gb-ssd-win8-1-2gb-graph/p/itmdsj3yfucyaddr?pid=COMDSJ3XGGH88QZD&otracker=browse&pageNum=1

This is the better than all laptop s u suggested so far.
It has 750M with Gddr5 memory with128bit bandwidth better than 8850, and i5 base clock is 2.6 ghz, which is better than i7
other plus points include
1)Full HD screen
2)JBL Speakers
3)better cam
-ve points
Lenovo HDD s are slow, u must upgrade to SSD or a descent HDD

 

[goldsmit409]

@themaskofwraith z510 has a 740m with 64bit bandwidth correct me if I am wrong
Also in is base clocked at 2.2 but that won't be an issue
Only thing stopping me from getting z510 is ddr3 740m 740m 64bit edition
Otherwise it's great

 

[goldsmit409]

@themaskofwraith z510 has a 740m with 64bit bandwidth correct me if I am wrong
Also in is base clocked at 2.2 but that won't be an issue
Only thing stopping me from getting z510 is ddr3 740m 740m 64bit edition
Otherwise it's great

 

[aakarshan]

740m 64 is slow version of original 740m,but it has higher frequencies so the performance will be not very much different.

 

[goldsmit409]

Ya that's true but comparing with 750m with ddr5 I guess it will be the Way to go for me

 

[themaskofwraith]

@goldsmit409
sorry copeid wrong URL earlier, this is the right one
http://www.flipkart.com/lenovo-ideapad-y510p-59-389687-laptop-4th-gen-ci5-8gb-1tb-win8-2gb-graph/p/itmdstxzmjmqwzhk?pid=COMDSTXHU8WB8UVZ&cmpid=content_computer_8965229628_gmc_pla&tgi=sem,1,G,11214002,g,search,,25719800660,1o1,,,c,,,,,,,&gclid=CNGRodrD3LwCFQpU4god5lUA5Q

And u might wanna consider this.
http://www.flipkart.com/toshiba-qosmio-x500-x8310-laptop-2nd-gen-ci7-4gb-1-5tb-win7-hp-1-5gb-graph/p/itmczzy7zhchc7jc?pid=COMCZZY67ZATTDRF&srno=b_14&ref=7b23bb87-0150-4ab7-ad0b-f2a598a1a45d

The only downside is older graphic card which might drop few frames in the future.

but ull get
real Quadcore with 6MB l3 cache,
A laptop designed only gaming purpose.
3D Full hd screen
Blue ray drive
Everything is better than all laptops mentioned in the thread, except the fact that ull drop few frames in the future.