Need help with $1500 AMD system for Gaming and Streaming (monitor included)

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I do not have specific games in mind, really. Pretty much any games that will be on the market on future for streaming.

Approximate Purchase Date: e.g.: Within a month

Budget Range: Total of $1500, but less the better.

System Usage from Most to Least Important:
Main purpose is to game, stream, and video edit

Are you buying a monitor: Yes

Location: Denton Texas

Overclocking: Was not going to, but AMD Ryzen series looks OC friendly. So will look up for videos or websites for optimized and safe OC.

SLI or Crossfire: Mostly no. Learned the pain of SLI hard way..

Your Monitor Resolution: Thinking about getting 1920 1080, but also considering 1440 resolutions

Additional Comments:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/F8bvFd

I tried to do it on my own, but Ryzen still seems to need a bit more time to be "stable".
So I wanted to ask if anyone can suggest stable system and hardware.

My main concerns are
1. 1600 vs 1700 - Because $100 can make some room for other hardwares.
2. Motherboard manufacturer. Heard Gigabytes do good job, but Asrock as well.
3. 1070 or 1080. The difference in their performance was quite significant.
If going 1070, which manufacturer would be good? Trying to go for white/blue theme.

4. monitors. Do you really need 144hz monitors or 1440 resolution to stream on 1080p?

Thank you for your help in advance.
Trying to go for white/bluish theme, but color is not the main concern.
 
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I'd look to something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($247.88 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG R1 Universal 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($88.49 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B350 TOMAHAWK ARCTIC ATX AM4 Motherboard ($96.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($113.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($88.92 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.45 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 1070 8GB XLR8 Video Card ($380.16 @ Amazon)
Case: Apevia X-PIONEER-WHT ATX Mid Tower Case ($48.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($86.88 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor ($225.16 @ Amazon)
Total: $1499.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-03 13:22 EDT-0400

1. 1600X is a good compromise, 3.6GHz, 6Core/12Thread and a reasonable overclocker. The 1600 can be OC'd to compete..... but the base clock is a good bit lower, so will take more work.
2. Most motherboard vendors are solid - BIOS updates are important though, Ryzen is having some issues with faster RAM speeds.
3. With your budget, a 1070 paired with a 144Hz 1080p monitor is probably the best bet. A 1080 is going to push you over budget. Opting for a Blue/White theme makes it difficult to stay on budget too, so I haven't stuck too too much with that.
 
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Thank you for your help Barty1884.

The reason I did not consider x versions is that , after looking into benchmark videos on Tom's and Bit's youtube, I realized that base clock of 1600 maybe lower, but actually has similar OC potential on both sides. I heard most people saying
if you are going to OC, go with 1600, but in case not, get 1600x.
Would you correct me in this information if I am wrong?

and would bit be worth to use $100 more for 1700? if so, I can make some more room for $1~200

Again, thank you for your help.
 
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No, there's nothing to correct there - you're right. The extra 400MHz on the 'boost' clock though, will be helpful while you're still learning to OC.
Whether that's worth $30-$50 though, is debatable and only you can decide.

The added cores/threads of the 1700 might be useful to you. Depends on your specific needs. Given your priority was gaming, then streaming, then editing......I'd say no. The 6 core/12threads should be sufficient. Just my opinion though. The 1700 is by no means a 'bad' option.

If your priority was editing primarily, then gaming/streaming.... then the 1700's added cores/threads are probably more valuable.
 
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why compromise?


https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bYhMxY

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($316.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($82.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($138.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA Ultimate SU800 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($239.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 7K3000 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.97 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card ($336.35 @ Amazon)
Case: Rosewill STEALTH ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.89 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Acer G257HU smidpx 25.0" 2560x1440 60Hz Monitor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1490.03
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-03 13:54 EDT-0400
 
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Thank you for another kind and fast reply Barty1884.

I already have a person who will edit the videos, but was going to learn how to do it myself for future.
It will most likely be me handing over my footage to him so he can edit things for his taste.

So yes, my primary needs for this pc is game/streaming.
I will definitely spend some more time making the final decision.

Thank you very much for your help.

PS. if you are not busy, may I ask the reason for 144hz monitor?
As far as I know, 144hz helps to actually go over 60 fps frames, and for other genre other than fps, the difference is not significant.
I do play few FPS games such as R6 siege and all, but yeah.. Are there some significant difference between 144hz and 60hz?

 
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Thank you for your suggestions ScrewySqrl.
All these combinations of PC parts continues to astound me.

 
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Just for fun, as much white as possible... barring a white monitor 😉

1600 and assume you'll OC to 3.8 ish;
A bit more on a nice case to show it off;
assuming you will have an HDD to migrate, if not add $50;
stuck with the cooler Barty1884 put up for the white color parts but I am certain you can go cheaper price for same performance but maybe not as much 'white'.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($217.55 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG R1 Universal 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($88.49 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B350 TOMAHAWK ARCTIC ATX AM4 Motherboard ($96.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($134.49 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($127.98 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Dual Series Video Card ($364.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair Carbide 400C White ATX Mid Tower Case ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($133.49 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor ($229.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $1578.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-03 14:06 EDT-0400

 
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I'd only compromised for a couple of reasons:
1. Trying to keep some aspect of the color scheme (within reason; excluding the GPU)
2. Including an OS, which may or may not be required
3. High base/boost clock speeds...... but I assume enough of the 8cores/16 threads will boost to 3.7GHz out of the box for gaming (probably 4, can't remember)

This is a nice build though OP. overall (I'm on the fence a little on the CPU for your needs, but there's definitely no harm). I'd look towards something along these lines if you're not too hung up on color schemes.


While there are; I'll be the first to admit that monitors are not my area of expertise by any means - so I'll leave this aspect to be answered in detail by somebody else.

As for why I opted for a 144Hz/1080p monitor - was simply down to the 1070 choice. Personally, I feel a 1070 is a little wasted at 1080p (unless you can benefit from the higher Hz). Otherwise, 1440p/60Hz would be a solid combination, as ScrwySqrl managed to fit within budget.
 
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I've been looking at that motherboard for one of my rigs because I want to upgrade my H440 to Ryzen, but 4 SATA ports is a huge deal breaker for me, even with as nice as that board looks. The Asus X370 Pro is only $30 more and it will blend with a white case fine, and it has twice as many SATA ports. You might not think about 4 SATA ports initially, but if your future expansion plans include an M2 drive, then that leaves you with only 3 SATA ports. And that can be maddening, I found that out the hard way with my Gigabyte Z170 board.

Here's a rig I would suggest:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($247.88 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($46.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME X370-PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard ($149.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($94.68 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.45 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING X Video Card ($259.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12G 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($64.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1128.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-04 11:14 EDT-0400

That gives you $400 for monitor and OS license.
 
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If you want to overclock you should consider going with the X370 Taichi or Asus Crosshair.
But if your going for Ryzen 5 which doesnt pull as much as power, you will be fine with any decent board.
 
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Nice boards, but the Asus is $50 - $75 cheaper and will give you the same results.
 
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