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Morcaster

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This build is over 11 years old. Updating it for my husband
I have my own Rig that holds up pretty well with its 1080 Classified, but his needs some love. It can't handle much at all even on low settings anymore, and It almost constantly closes out of games randomly (I determined it has to be the MB)

>>My budget is $2000<<<, I may be able to push that a bit more.
Looking for a new GPU, MB and Monitor. These must be replaced.
Maybe a new Case, CPU, Power supply. Willing to get new ones if needed. Just explain why please.

About the monitor: The monitor should pair perfectly with the GPU. I've done research on 4k, it seems overrated and I can't tell the difference anyway. too expensive as well.
For my build, I have an Asus ROG Swift PG278Q. I liked the features the most. Ego. Gsync. The Screen it's self was something special, I liked it for some reason...
It's pretty perfect tbh, I may just get one for this upgrade.
1. Thoughts?

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Current old build:

Case: https://www.newegg.com/black-cooler-master-haf922-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811119224?Item=N82E16811119224

MB: https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813131705?Item=N82E16813131705

CPU: https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i5-2nd-gen-core-i5-2500k/p/N82E16819115072?Item=N82E16819115072

CPUFAN: https://www.newegg.com/arctic-cooling-dcaco-fp701-csa01/p/N82E16835186134?Item=N82E16835186134

PS: https://www.newegg.com/corsair-enthusiast-series-cp-9020042-na-750w/p/N82E16817139021?Item=N82E16817139021

The GPU is a EVGA Geforce GTX 770
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RAM not needed

Goals: I want to save money when possible. I want the system to handle anything today and for the next 5-10 years.
I'm not looking to be on the Bleeding Edge when it comes to new parts. Reliability and Performance and then Quality. This rig should play any games today on the high settings and with no issues running smooth.

So If someone can be so kind enough to help guide us and give their time; to make sure the parts will work correctly and give us recommendations, we can get the ball rolling.
Thank you! <3
~R
 

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Case: If it ain't broke...
Cpu: He's not going to get another 5 years out of a 2500K.
PSU: If it's just as old as the rest of the build, it should be replaced as well. Warranty on that unit is 5 years, so if it's close to that in age or older, it's time to retire it.
Monitor: Really up to the 2 of you, but I will say that a higher resolution monitor will demand a stronger gpu.
A 2070 Super is all one really needs for 1080p. For 1440p, it's either a 2080 Super, or 2080Ti - not to say a 2070 Super can't run 1440p, but it won't age as well as the other 2 cards at that resolution - but that's like, what, 6 months to a year sooner.

Goals: 5-10 year stretch is doable with a cpu. Gpu though, nope. Even the flagship model of a generation is at best, good for 4 years. There have been some exceptions though...

1080p:
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($299.63 @ Walmart)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard ($114.89 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($114.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB XC ULTRA GAMING Video Card ($503.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.98 @ Newegg)
Monitor: LG 27GL650F-B 27.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor ($269.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $1493.45
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-01 23:32 EST-0500


1440p:
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($299.63 @ Walmart)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard ($114.89 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($114.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB GAMING X TRIO Video Card ($737.89 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.98 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor ($429.00 @ B&H)
Total: $1886.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-01 23:45 EST-0500
 

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Thank you for your time! That was pretty fast!

-That monitor for the 1440 is pretty awesome for it's price, that is a good find. thanks!
Seems even better; and even it's cheaper then my own.

-I guess from my point of view, our GPU has lasted for awhile.

-I'll keep the case, I just hope the MB and GPU fit in there without strange issues.

-With the CPU fan: Will I still be using it here in your build you recommended?

-Why AMD over Intel? Curious; I don't have much experience with AMD, though I suppose theres not much of a difference?

-Should I be concerned with this?:
  • Warning!Some AMD B450 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Matisse CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions.
  • Note:Some physical dimension restrictions cannot (yet) be automatically checked, such as cpu cooler / RAM clearance with modules using tall heat spreaders.
-I most likely won't need the Memory.

-I like the 1tb SSD you recommended. that's ana amazing price! I'll have to get one for my own.

Overall I really like all this.
Any problems with any of these parts? In particular the GPU? I remember having to open mine up and replacing the thermal paste when I first got mine.

I think I'll get it. after I have all these parts the next step will have to be transferring the data over to the new SSD. It's going to be tedious... and then ill stop by my electronic store and get some safety equipment.
I'll keep updating this post, once I have all the parts, and once I have it all built. I'll run a benchmark test and post results.
 
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The case is fine, what are the front USB ports on it?

Intel was King for a long run but AMD's offerings are the better all around processor for the money. You must get 3200MHz memory at a minimum for best Ryzen performance.

The 2080's have been out for quite some time, unless you see a lot of negative customer reviews it will be fine.

I updated my pc last fall from an i7 960 x58 platform.

My new AMD pc is fantastic, snappy as can be and it never waits, programs open in a flash. Gaming with a 3800x and 2070 Super at 1440p on an Asus ISP monitor is pure heaven.
 

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What is your timeline?

A new line of GTX cards and Ryzen processors are set to hit July-Sept.

Could dramatically change prices.

Why is RAM not needed. You may have some working 12 year old ram, but ram is pretty cheap these days and you could see a pretty big upgrade there.
 

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-With the CPU fan: Will I still be using it here in your build you recommended?
Doubt it. Plus, it's not like the cooler you currently have has an AM4 bracket?

-Why AMD over Intel? Curious; I don't have much experience with AMD, though I suppose theres not much of a difference?
Intel offers too little for too much. Here's those same 2 builds with the Intel equivalent:
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($504.99 @ Best Buy)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML360R RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($131.19 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390 AORUS PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($114.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB XC ULTRA GAMING Video Card ($503.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($114.99 @ B&H)
Monitor: LG 27GL650F-B 27.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor ($266.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1897.11
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-02 16:18 EST-0500


PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($504.99 @ Best Buy)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML360R RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($131.19 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390 AORUS PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($114.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB GAMING X TRIO Video Card ($737.89 @ B&H)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($114.99 @ B&H)
Monitor: Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor ($429.00 @ B&H)
Total: $2293.03
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-02 16:20 EST-0500

Warning!Some AMD B450 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Matisse CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions.
With the motherboard I picked out, no. It's just that PCpartpicker isn't up to date on the Msi MAX mobos; they support Ryzen 3000 out of the box.

Note:Some physical dimension restrictions cannot (yet) be automatically checked, such as cpu cooler / RAM clearance with modules using tall heat spreaders.
I checked the specs of the HAF 922, and it supports cpu coolers up to 160mm tall.
The front fans on SOME tower coolers sit over the ram. Concerning memory with tall heat spreaders, this will force the front fan to be raised.

-I most likely won't need the Memory.
So you already have some DDR4 on hand? DDR3 isn't compatible with DDR4 systems.

Any problems with any of these parts? In particular the GPU? I remember having to open mine up and replacing the thermal paste when I first got mine.
No.
No, but stuff happens sometimes.
 

Morcaster

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I do need the ram then. It's just I got more recent ones and didn't think I'd need DDR4. Thanks!

Two USB in the front. 2.0 I believe. Some 3.0 in the back. (Blue)

AMD does feel much better. Thanks! I'll go with that for now on.

larsv8 said
A new line of GTX cards and Ryzen processors are set to hit July-Sept.
I'm thinking we won't wait before we make our purchases. It seems like a good idea to save a bit oh money though.

This is the ram that's in rn: https://www.newegg.com/patriot-16gb-240-pin-ddr3-sdram/p/N82E16820220772

One last thing im not set on is the fan. AM4 bracket? I'm not as tech savy as you.
So you're saying I won't need this on top of my CPU? The Arctic freezer 7?
I'm confused.
How will this work? How will it look like?
 

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So you're saying I won't need this on top of my CPU? The Arctic freezer 7?
You know how when you order a cooler, you open up the package, and there's some mounting hardware included for various cpu sockets - LGA 1150, 1151, 2011, AM3, AM3+, FM2, etc...
If you've had that Freezer 7 cooler for a while, then the packaging didn't include the necessary mounting hardware for socket AM4 cpus.
You would then have to request one from Arctic - but the 3700X's stock cooler already has you covered.
 

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Honestly, It was so long ago since I purchased and built this, I don't remember. I'am an amateur computer builder.
I didn't know it came with a stock cooler :<
I must have misunderstood something, MB.
Thank you! I'll keep you guys posted
 
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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVd3LX2DCCQ

Perhaps some of the others are available? That video is where the suggestion for the VG27AQ came from.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/
Looks like the
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6XPgXL/lg-27gl850-b-270-2560x1440-144-hz-monitor-27gl850-b
In the video that is considered the Best is avaliable from bestbuy with free shipping and within the same price range as the one previously recommended (Btw amazon wants about 1000 for it now...)

I don't see much of a difference. Looks like I'll be getting this one, Thanks for the video.
If you don't see anything wrong with this pick, I'll be getting all the parts asap when you give the thumbs up.

So pretty much this: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bwtkq3
With the: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6XPgXL/lg-27gl850-b-270-2560x1440-144-hz-monitor-27gl850-b
Monitor.
 
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I’ll say this.

You will love your new gaming pc. Recently upgraded to an AMD pc with 1440p Asus ROG monitor. It’s a fantastic and silky smooth gaming experience in beautiful color.

Great build. More often then not the monitor gets the least of the budget. No sense in having all that power without really seeing it.
 

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PG279Q is a premium G-sync monitor.
VG27AQ is a Freesync monitor.

None of this matters anymore since Nvidia gave in several months ago and made their gpus support freesync. No reason to pay that price premium on G-sync exclusive monitors anymore.
 

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VG27AQ
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1500997-REG/asus_vg27aq_tuf_gaming_27_wqhd.html/specs

The specs changed? It doesn't say free-sync anymore, it says gsync and adaptive sync.
So It's both? I think adaptive sync is just free sync right?

I'm seeing this when I search on google now.
https://www.newegg.com/black-asus-tuf-gaming-vg27aq-90lm0500-b013b0-27/p/N82E16824236987
Tuf?

I'am having a hard time keeping up with technology...
I may need a re-recommendation, Are these the same? I can get them now, I found some in stock.
 
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Sweet beans. Just making sure I'm not going to regret my pick, because it's a crazy time right now! It's hard making returns if it's possible.
Thank you despite everything that's been happening.
Just waiting on my GPU and now i'm off to purchase the monitor. :)
 

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I just received all the parts! The monitor looks good.
I'll start working on putting this all together now.

So I took a measuring tape to the monitor and it comes to about 24in.
But this is a 27...
I'm concerned I got the wrong size, so I messaged B&H and waiting to hear from them.
 

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