Question Need help with Best Buy discount build

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I think most people know about Best Buy's employee discount, so that is what i am trying to do. A friend of a friend said the discount isn't that good, but i don't know what he was comparing it to, how else can you get electronics cheap besides owning a retail store, buying a ton, or buying used products through ebay that likely have no or a lot shorter warranty? Intelretailedge is another thing i was thinking of too.

Approximate Purchase Date: e.g.: this week (the closer the better)

Within a week

Budget Range: (e.g.: 300-400) Before / After Rebates; Before / After Shipping

$2000-$8000 (But within reason, i am now willing to spend more on the mobo, was a little surprised when i was suggested a board that was almost $500, but i don't plan on changing my cpu or mobo for 1-7 years, rest i may change 1-5 years later, all depends)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: (e.g.: Folding@Home, gaming, surfing the internet, watching movies)

Adobe software, other productivity programs, having multiple programs open, video editing and rendering, coding, unreal engine, streaming on twitch/youtube/etc.

Are you buying a monitor: Yes / No

Yes

Parts to Upgrade: (e.g.: CPU, mobo, RAM) Include Power Supply Make & Model If Re-using

I currently have a 3050, not sure if i should upgrade to the 4070 ti or 4080 mainly due to their size, not being pci-e 5 like they said they would be, possibility of their prices dropping, etc. Upgrading everything else.

Do you need to buy OS: Yes / No

Yes

Please note that if you're using an OEM license of Windows, you will need a new one when buying a new motherboard.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts:
(e.g.: newegg.com, ncix.com -- to show us selection & pricing)

bestbuy.com

Location: City, State/Region, Country - we need to know where these parts are being assembled and whether there are good store-only deals available

Dearborn, MI, USA

Parts Preferences: by brand or type (e.g.: I would like to upgrade to Intel CPU)

Intel

Overclocking: Yes / No / Maybe

Maybe in the future

SLI or Crossfire: Yes / No / Maybe

Not sure

Your Monitor Resolution: (e.g.: 1024x768, 1280x1024, 1440x900, 1600x1200, 1680x1050, 1920x1080, 1920x1200 or if you're upgrading please state what you'd want to get)

Looking for a good monitor for streaming on twitch, youtube, etc. I'd be new to this and i don't watch twitch myself, so not sure what standards to look for so please suggest what you'd want a streamer to have i guess?

Additional Comments: (e.g.: Need to have a window and lots of bling, I would like a quiet PC. Please also list specific software or games you're using)

Window would be nice, but not necessary, rgb lights aren't necessary, mechanical keyboard recommendations would be nice, wifi isn't necessary since i like being wired with an ethernet cable, do i need a water cooler/is it better to have water cooler than fans/can it cause rust? (probably rather not do water cooling if that's the case with rust or things not lasting as long if i can). If i overclock, would i then need watercooling?

Also, I am likely going to go with the i7 13700KF (KF CPUs are unlocked but still come without integrated graphics), and i want 2 m.2 ssds (one for the OS and one for programs, storage (video editing/rendering), etc. and i already have a good a mount of 5400 rpm HDDs (about 14 tbs total)

I also want to be able to have all my hdds in my case at once (5 hdds currently, can only put in 2 rn).

Lastly, I want the mobo to have pci-e 5 graphics interface and pcie 5 m.2, that way when they're released, i have the option to upgrade to them without having to change my mobo and possibly my cpu.

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: (e.g. I'm having trouble running game X or my PSU broke)

It's been about 7 years since i built my current computer and i want to learn to do a lot more things so I want to upgrade to be able to do more things and more efficiently.

Thank you. Also, please look at the question at the top.
 
What you likely should do since you are one of the lucky people that have a micro center within a reasonable distance is to at least compare the prices.

Micro center tends to beat bestbuy prices by a lot but I am unsure how much the employee discount makes up for that.
 
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I don't see PCIe 5.0 M.2 being a thing for gamers in the next decade if ever. PCIe gen 3 SSD's run cooler than their gen 4 counterparts not to mention it's physically impossible to detect the speed difference when loading games, maps, etc ... The integrated graphics comes in handy if you ever decide to stream (OBS) and if your gpu ever takes a dump.

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811112603
LIAN LI Lancool III Computer Case $149.99

https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-RM850x-Fully-Modular-Supply/dp/B08R5JPTMZ
Corsair RMx Series (2021) RM850x 850 Watt 80+ GOLD Modular Power Supply $139.97

https://www.ebay.com/itm/265990760914
Corsair 600W PCIe 5.0 GRAPHICS CARDS 12VHPWR Type-4 PSU Power Cable $34.90

https://www.microcenter.com/product/660220/msi-z790-a-pro-wifi-intel-lga-1700-atx-motherboard
MSI Z790-A Pro WiFi $279.99

https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i7-13700-core-i7-13th-gen/p/N82E16819118427
Intel Core i7-13700 $409.99

https://www.newegg.com/p/0VE-01P6-00022
Thermalright Intel LGA1700 Anti-Bending Bracket $12.90

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Y87YHRH
Noctua NH-D15 chromax.Black Dual-Tower CPU Cooler $109.95

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr5-sdram/p/N82E16820374369
G.SKILL Ripjaws S5 Series DDR5 6000 32GB (2x16GB) CL30 $177.99

O/S SSD

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07M7Q21N7
SAMSUNG 970 EVO Plus 500GB M.2 NVMe SSD $69.99

Storage SSD

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MFZXR1B
SAMSUNG 970 EVO Plus 2TB M.2 NVMe SSD $179.99

https://www.microcenter.com/product...-triple-fan-12gb-gddr6x-pcie-40-graphics-card
Gigabyte RTX 4070 Ti Eagle 12GB Graphics Card $799.99

https://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-dvd903211-Windows-11-USB/dp/B09V6R9QZZ/
Microsoft Windows 11 Home USB $139.00

https://www.adorama.com/asvg27aq1a.html
ASUS TUF VG27AQL1A 27" 2560x1440 IPS HDR 170Hz G-SYNC Compatible Gaming Monitor $299.00

Total: $2803.65


https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-Z790-A-WIFI


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zE9Rg6wGvA


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What you likely should do since you are one of the lucky people that have a micro center within a reasonable distance is to at least compare the prices.

Micro center tends to beat bestbuy prices by a lot but I am unsure how much the employee discount makes up for that.
The discount is 5% above their cost, but i can compare to the microcenter too.
 
Key ones are going to be the video card. If you can get them for under MSRP then it will be a deal. Micro center has lots of the 4070ti and 4080 and even 7900xt in the madison heights store.
You can get a 13700k for $380 with a extra $20 discount if you buy a motherboard at the same time. Lots of option on motherboards that are z790 so its hard to say which.

These are the big cost items so will be the most important to decide where to buy.
 
This is why I don't recommend an unlocked Intel 12 / 13 gen i7 / i9 cpu for a gaming build especially when air cooling is involved. These cpu's are pushed to their limits out of the box.

https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...-30m-cache-up-to-5-40-ghz/specifications.html
Processor Base Power: 125W
Maximum Turbo Power: 253W

https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...-30m-cache-up-to-5-20-ghz/specifications.html
Processor Base Power: 65W
Maximum Turbo Power: 219W

Locked i7 vs unlocked i7. The difference is a whopping 1 FPS on average.

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This is why I don't recommend an unlocked Intel 12 / 13 gen i7 / i9 cpu for a gaming build especially when air cooling is involved. These cpu's are pushed to their limits out of the box.

https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...-30m-cache-up-to-5-40-ghz/specifications.html
Processor Base Power: 125W
Maximum Turbo Power: 253W

https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...-30m-cache-up-to-5-20-ghz/specifications.html
Processor Base Power: 65W
Maximum Turbo Power: 219W

Locked i7 vs unlocked i7. The difference is a whopping 1 FPS on average.

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If i go with the KF version, would i need a better cooler and/or power supply? If so what do you recommend Idk how you added the image, but here UserBenchmark: Intel Core i7-13700 vs i7-13700F (when you click the drop down, the i5 13600 out performs the 13700F, but does get a lower workstation score). Here i do see the wattage uses you added Intel® Core™ i7-13700F Processor and Intel® Core™ i7-13700KF Processor Also weird that they say up to 5600 for the ram, is this a concern or just outdated? And out of curiousity i looked into the i9 kf and f and I'm surprise the wattages are similar to the i7s Intel® Core™ i9-13900KF Processor and Intel® Core™ i9-13900F Processor. For the i9 13900F, would i need better cooling too or same cooling that the i3700F would require?

What all reasons does the wattage matter? Does the number of cores affect the heat too?

I also am trying to do more than just gaming, and use this a workstation too, i'm a newbie to it so not sure what to really get.

I'm currently seeing what i can get from what you listed from Best Buy.
 
It depends on the pricing. If you look at the pricing I posted from microcenter it is cheaper to buy a 13700k than to buy a 13700 from newegg.

Most times people buy the 13700kf because it is slightly cheaper because it does not have the video onboard. I would still always get the onboard video for the small difference in price it is really worth it when a video card acts up. Or if like happened to me microsoft updates the video driver and the machine boots to a black screen. The only way I recovered that was to remove my video card and boot on the onboard video and fix the drivers and reinsert the main video.

Since you can get the 13700k for cheaper than the 13700 you can just go into the bios and set the power limit lower and you magically get a 13700. Not that there is any real reason to do that.

Although you should put a large cooler on a 13700k it all depends on how hard you push the cpu. It doesn't actually use all the watts unless your application has a need for it.
 
So I just went back and checked the pricing on the store near you and micro center must have gotten in 13700 chips over night. They cost $399.

So it is $20 more than the 13700k and also does not have the extra $20 discount if you also buy a motherboard. But it does come with a factory cooler for that extra money :).

Pricing is very strange. Have seen increases on many of the intel chips but so far microcenter still has the same prices they have had since November.