Need help with new build trimming budget, $1500 so far

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Approximate Purchase Date: e.g.: this week

Budget Range: (e.g.: 300-400) $1500 or less

System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming, watching movies, netflix, homework

Are you buying a monitor: Yes



Parts to Upgrade: Need new everything

Do you need to buy OS: Yes
Please note that if you're using an OEM license of Windows, you will need a new one when buying a new motherboard.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: US location, will use best online source

Location: City, State/Region, Country - USA, Kansas

Parts Preferences: by brand or type what ever, most familiar with Intel and Nvidia

Overclocking: I want to, but in order to keep budget down I will tackle this later

SLI or Crossfire: maybe

Your Monitor Resolution: Need help with this

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: Want to play new games. The ones I have my eye on are the new dragon age, Star citizen, role playing games and strategy games. I like FPS games but I tend to play those on xbox (is this the best?)

I hope the above answers most questions, but I am hoping you can help with some of my own.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/cbsbxr This is a link to what I have so far. Basically I took what little I know and selected the parts with the most recommendations in the price range I was after.

Questions;

1. Do I need any additional cooling if I dont plan on over clocking right away?

2. Is this configuration the best one? Can I get better performance for less $

3. Do I have the right monitor? Am I wasting money on it because; I dont have the right system to take advantage of the selected monitor, or monitor is not needed for the types of games I play
 
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If you want to overclock right away you will need a watercooler for your CPU, And in addition you dont need a 750W PSU unless you plan on doing sli in the future, so make that choice before you buy it. This system will have no problem playing on that monitor at high to ultra 60FPS+.
 
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I dont plan on OC initially but it is something I am interested in in the future.

If I dont OC do I need more fans? Is current setup enough?

What power supply should I use?
 
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No need for 16Gb Ram, or to spend $100+ on a PSU. If and only if you plan to add another GPU later, then get a little stronger PSU. Added an SSD for OS and room for a couple of games. Much faster boot and load times.
I would do something like this: Leaves room to add in a CPU cooler now if you want to OC.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($215.00 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H-BK ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($126.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($62.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($71.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card ($347.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($58.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.79 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($93.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($264.99 @ B&H)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($28.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Other: dvd
Total: $1441.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-02-24 14:27 EST-0500
 
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Thank you both for your responses, if I may follow up with the monitor. Is it overkill for what I plan on doing? If i am not playing FPS games would I get just as good of results using a different monitor? A cheaper one maybe?
 
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You don't need a water cooler to overclock, some air coolers such as the noctua nh-d14 and 15 outperform some of the cheaper liquid coolers. You can even overclock with a hyper 212 evo which is $30. My suggestion get one of those noctua coolers I mentioned above their great.
 
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I'm certainly no expert on monitors, but just as an example:

I purchased this Acer monitor when it was on sale for $179. Couldn't pass it up for the price @ 27". I was a bit worried about the 6MS response time, but to be honest, not sure if my eyeballs would actually notice a difference. I have zero complaints.

Hopefully someone else a bit more versed in monitors can help, but you can probably get a decent gaming monitor for less money.
 
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Yeah if your not worried about FPS than a 60hz monitor will be just fine. That's what I play on and I play a few of the games you mentioned, but like AMD thunder mentioned I'd go for a 27" monitor. I'd try to keep the response time 5ms and under but you honestly won't notice too big a difference
 
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+1 on the SSD. I fought the upgrade to Win 8 for a long time, but I work with Server 2012 regularly. It is Win 8, so I got used to it and bought it for my latest build. Paired with an SSD, my boot time is maybe 5 seconds.
 
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If you're not worried about a 144hz monitor than that looks great, however for $30 more you can get a 256GB Crucial MX100 SSD which would fit more of your games/OS. That 27" monitor also has a 2ms response time which is nice
 
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This is about $90 cheaper, you could also save money by going with a cheaper case as well. However, if you're wanting to SLI in the future neither that 620W Seasonic nor this 550W XFX will be able to run 2 GPU's you will need a 750-850W PSU.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($106.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($62.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($71.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card ($347.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($48.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSC0B DVD/CD Writer ($12.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: AOC e2752Vh 60Hz 27.0" Monitor ($179.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $1360.64
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-02-24 18:12 EST-0500
 
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I have wondered about using an SLI setup with 970's. I have heard that when you need SLI 970's is with higher resolution and multiple monitors. But this is when the 3.5mg of RAM cause problems. Maybe I dont understand the situation well, but is there a time when SLI 970's would work in its current state?
 
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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/b9JxCJ Newest list

I changed the case and selected a cheaper PSU. Now I need some advice on the SSD. Here is my thought and I would like to see what advice you all have. I am thinking about gettting rid of the SSD and in its place getting a better monitor or getting a I7 CPU.

I figure I can add the SSD later, and I wont be wasting money like I would if I bought the SSD now and upgraded the monitor/CPU later. Is that a good/bad idea?
 
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Any suggestions? Im looking at pcpartpicker and I am not coming up with many results. It looks like if I go that road I am almost better off buying something like this EVGA 220-G2-0750-XR and then I would be ready for SLI if i wanted to in the future.

 
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