Need help with selecting the correct PSU for my Build

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mihir2006

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Hi,

I need to know how much wattage PSUs do my builds require at high load including overclocking etc.

My build 1
i7 6800k
ASRock x99 Taichi
Gigabyte 1070 Xtreme Gaming
BenQ XL2411z-2 1080p 3D Monitor 144hz 1ms
G.Skill Ripjaws V 8GB x 2 RAM 3400/3200 MHz PC4-27200/25600 16-18-18-38 at 1.35V
Samsung SSD 850 Pro 256GB Model - MZ-7KE256BW
Phanteks Slim Twin Towers PH-TC14S CPU Cooler / Cooler Master Hyper 212X
Western Digital Black 1TB 7200rpm
Phanteks Enthoo EVOLV ITX Mini ITX Tower Case Model - PH-ES215P_BK

My build 2
i7 6700k
ASUS Z170 Pro Gaming
Gigabyte 1070 Xtreme Gaming
BenQ XL2411z-2 1080p 3D Monitor 144hz 1ms
G.Skill Ripjaws V 8GB x 2 RAM 3400/3200 MHz PC4-27200/25600 16-18-18-38 at 1.35V
Samsung SSD 850 Pro 256GB Model - MZ-7KE256BW
Phanteks Slim Twin Towers PH-TC14S CPU Cooler / Cooler Master Hyper 212X
Western Digital Black 1TB 7200rpm
Phanteks Enthoo EVOLV ITX Mini ITX Tower Case Model - PH-ES215P_BK
 
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JackNaylorPE
1) I'll go with ATX Case. I guess both z170 & x99 need ATX Cases.

Phantels Enthoo Evolv Tempered Glass

2) I choose 6800k & x99 for the extra cores which will help me in high level video editing. I just play DotA 2 which doesn't really require high end pcs.

OK, make sense then.... depending on video editing program. Adobe Premiere benefits Davinci doesn't

3) Should I go with 1060 Xtreme for video editing & gaming? Will it give me way lower fps as compared to 1070 Xtreme on 144Hz monitor?

For both, I would want to have 1440p, IPS, 165Hz ... but that costs $700 (Acer XB271HU bmripz or Aver PG279Q)

4) SSHD > SSD+HDD? I had heard about these but does it really make any huge difference? or save lot of money?

Did you look at the links...
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For 99.9% of builds, the easiest way to find out what you need PSU wise is:

Option 1

a) http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus

b) Click on your card and scroll down to specs / full specs

Thermal and Power Specs:
94C = Maximum GPU Temperature (in C)
150 W = Graphics Card Power (W)
500 W = Recommended System Power (W)4
8-Pin = Supplementary Power Connectors
Click to expand...

Of course of OC'inmg best buffer that a but

Option 2

a) Do a web search on "Guru3D [your card]"

b) Go to Power Consumption page

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/gigabyte_geforce_gtx_1070_g1_gaming_review,8.html

Here is Guru3D's power supply recommendation:

GeForce GTX 1070 - On your average system the card requires you to have a 450 Watts power supply unit.
GeForce GTX 1070 SLI - On your average system the cards require you to have a 650 Watts power supply unit.

If you are going to overclock your GPU or processor, then we do recommend you purchase something with some more stamina. And remeber, a PSU is the most efficient at 50% load. So if you use 400 Watts on average (SLI), the most energy friendly powersupply would be an 800 Watt model.
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As for the builds....

1. ATX MoBos won't fit in the ITX cases.

2. Z170 is faster than X99 in Gaming ... use X99 if considering 3 or more GFX cards ... and that is 'not "officially" supported anymore on 10xx cards

3. The 1070 is a bit much for a 1080 monitor but good choice if upgarding in near future

4. The SSD gives you a nice speed boost for the OS and the 3 games or so which fit on it .... boost gaming performance by 50% with a less expensive SSHD

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/hdd-charts-2013/-17-PCMark-7-Gaming,2915.html

Before ya bring up the inapplicable backblaze data, look at real consumer drives in a consumer environment data:

http://www.hardware.fr/articles/954-6/disques-durs.html

Overall failure rate company wide for last two 6-month survey periods

Seagate 0,72% (contre 0,69%)
Toshiba 0,80% (contre 1,15%)
Western 1,04% (contre 1,03%)
HGST 1,13% (contre 0,60%)
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Individual failure rates (anything under 1 % is great)

1,10% WD Blue WD20EZRZ
0,82% Seagate Barracuda 7200.14
0,81% WD Red WD20EFRX
0,77% Seagate Enterprise NAS HDD ST2000VN0001
0,74% WD Purple WD20PURX
0,72% WD Green WD20EZRX
0,56% Seagate NAS HDD ST2000VN000
0,45% WD Black WD2003FZEX
0,43% Seagate Desktop SSHD ST2000DX001
Click to expand...

The "pro-Gaming" has a pretty ow satisfaction rate among board owners on newegg ... (only 44% gave it 5 eggs and 29% gave it 1 egg)
 
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Thanks for your reply. I've gone through the links, they are informative.

I'm always confused while choosing PSUs its because even the processor needs 140w and few other parts like motherboard, display monitor, etc. need wattage.

I have given the two builds i'm going for can you calculate it all and tell me for build1 & build2 what wattage PSU do I need when there is high load & its overclocked?

EDIT : Reading your new post.
 
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Here's an ATX Build ... sans monitor

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($328.99 @ SuperBiiz)
You picked it enough said :) ... if just gaming ana dbudget an issue, then drop to 6600k

CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC14PE 78.1 CFM CPU Cooler ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Aesthetic and performance improvement over original selection

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Gaming 7 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($182.98 @ Newegg)
Significant increase in quality / aesthetics over previous selection

Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($104.12 @ Amazon) Aesthetic improvement

Storage: Samsung 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($79.99 @ B&H)
Cost savings on Evo, can get the pro if ya want but outside of benchmarks, you can't tell them apart.

Storage: Seagate FireCuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($104.89 @ OutletPC)
Doubled capacity and increased gaming performance by 50%

Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Xtreme Gaming Video Card ($454.99 @ SuperBiiz)
You picked it so didn't change

Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX Glass ATX Mid Tower Case ($177.98 @ Newegg)
Frakin gorgeous high performance case

Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ NCIX US)

SLI capable, great price.
Total: $1573.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-27 14:41 EST-0500

Alternate PSU if look matters

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LgJkcf/seasonic-power-supply-ss750xp2s
 
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1) I'll go with ATX Case. I guess both z170 & x99 need ATX Cases.

2) I choose 6800k & x99 for the extra cores which will help me in high level video editing. I just play DotA 2 which doesn't really require high end pcs.

3) Should I go with 1060 Xtreme for video editing & gaming? Will it give me way lower fps as compared to 1070 Xtreme on 144Hz monitor?

4) SSHD > SSD+HDD? I had heard about these but does it really make any huge difference? or save lot of money?

5) Thanks, I had already read about it somewhere but dint remember. Great that you pointed it out otherwise I was going for WD Black cause it gives 5 year wty over Seagate 2 year wty.

So do you still think 6700k & z170 > 6700k & x99. If i'm going to do more video editing than gaming?
 
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ITX Build

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($328.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC14PE 78.1 CFM CPU Cooler ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z170I GAMING PRO AC Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($165.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($95.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($79.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate FireCuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($104.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card ($414.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo EVOLV ITX Mini ITX Tower Case ($65.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1396.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-27 15:09 EST-0500

$20 rebate on GFX card is not being listed by PCpart[picker
 
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1) I'll go with ATX Case. I guess both z170 & x99 need ATX Cases.

Phantels Enthoo Evolv Tempered Glass

2) I choose 6800k & x99 for the extra cores which will help me in high level video editing. I just play DotA 2 which doesn't really require high end pcs.

OK, make sense then.... depending on video editing program. Adobe Premiere benefits Davinci doesn't

3) Should I go with 1060 Xtreme for video editing & gaming? Will it give me way lower fps as compared to 1070 Xtreme on 144Hz monitor?

For both, I would want to have 1440p, IPS, 165Hz ... but that costs $700 (Acer XB271HU bmripz or Aver PG279Q)

4) SSHD > SSD+HDD? I had heard about these but does it really make any huge difference? or save lot of money?

Did you look at the links ?

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/hdd-charts-2013/-17-PCMark-7-Gaming,2915.html
Gaming performance - 9.76 MB/s with SSHD / 6.34 with WD Black ... 54% improvement

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/hdd-charts-2013/-13-PCMark-7-Video-editing-using-Windows-Movie-Maker,2911.html
Video Editing performance - 21.15 MB/s with SSHD / 20.00 with WD Black ... 12% improvement

5) Thanks, I had already read about it somewhere but dint remember. Great that you pointed it out otherwise I was going for WD cause it gives 5 year wty over Seagate 3 year wty.

The FireCUDA is warranted for 5 years

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178996

Gaming systems video editing, power computing: 5x faster than BarraCuda Pro, more capacity than SSDs
Capacity Up to 2TB
Performance Fastest
Key Feature Flash-enhanced for higher performance
Form Factor 3.5" desktop / 2.5" laptop
Limited Warranty 5years
Click to expand...

6. You'll need 4 sticks of RAM for X99 board



X99 Build for Video Editing

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6800K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($409.99 @ SuperBiiz)

CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC14PE 78.1 CFM CPU Cooler ($74.99 @ Newegg)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X99-Ultra Gaming ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($248.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($204.97 @ Jet)

Storage: Samsung 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($79.99 @ B&H)

Storage: Seagate FireCuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($104.89 @ OutletPC)

Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Xtreme Gaming Video Card ($454.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX Glass ATX Mid Tower Case ($177.98 @ Newegg)

Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ NCIX US)

Total: $1821.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-27 15:29 EST-0500

If budget needs it ... cut to 4 x 4GB but for video editing as you have described, I'd use 32 GB
 
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I'm going to use Programs like :-

Sony Vegas, Cinema4d
Adobe After Effects, Illustrator, Premiere, Photoshop, InDesign
[strike]3ds max, Maya[/strike]

Games like :-

DotA 2, CS:GO

- Will record live footage while using softwares like photoshop, sony vegas, etc. & while playing the games stated above and i'll be uploading it on YouTube (the software tutorials/gaming montages/live streams)
- Will be streaming on Twitch & YouTube.

Other than that I'll be loading folders with 20-30k files of around 1-5mb size each file & ill be editing some of them. So the transfer speeds and loading all that also matters to me.
 
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Nvm those, way out of my budget.



Thanks. Thats a really nice build which will cover almost everything that I want to do with the pc.
 
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It will certainly be an eye catcher.

Options ....

1. Save a few bucks and drop the tempered glass ... but for the small cost difference, it's card to say no.
Best Case of 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQfRDSGlNqI
With Tempered Glass Added
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKUkj23GgFE

2. Add another SSD as a "scratch drive"

3. Add water cooling:

Add $75 over air cooler
http://www.swiftech.com/h240x2.aspx
H240-X2-COLOR-PICS.jpg


Add water cooling to GFX card $80 extra
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127956

You will need a bottle of coolant, two G-1/4 fittings and a few feet of tube from Swiftech ($25 estimate) to connect the card



 
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Thanks a lot !

EDIT : Please check your pm.
 
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