Question Need new router, whats a modem?

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I need a new router for my house, and I was asked if we should get a modem to. What is a modem? Do I get a new modem, and a router or just a router? Our house is a 1 story about 2700-2900 square feet, and its really long, we have some mesh boosters that boost the signal but the router is limiting them I think since its old and the one frontier gave us. The signal does not reach the other end of the house very well.

I was looking at the:
https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-Nigh...EZe_JQecmdV76hkhMZojnyPoaxUaAvS0EALw_wcB&th=1

And the:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/tp-lin...Gdn3B053yOUL0AEixIIaAn0EEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

Are these good options?
 
I need a new router for my house, and I was asked if we should get a modem to. What is a modem? Do I get a new modem, and a router or just a router? Our house is a 1 story about 2700-2900 square feet, and its really long, we have some mesh boosters that boost the signal but the router is limiting them I think since its old and the one frontier gave us. The signal does not reach the other end of the house very well.

I was looking at the:
https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-Nigh...EZe_JQecmdV76hkhMZojnyPoaxUaAvS0EALw_wcB&th=1

And the:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/tp-lin...Gdn3B053yOUL0AEixIIaAn0EEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

Are these good options?
A modem depends on what your ISP provides. If it is an ethernet cable, then you don't need a modem.
You should put your money into getting a wired connection across your house. A $500 router won't be any better at the far end than your current router.
Do you have coax throughout your house ?
 
Be careful there is junk sold that claims to convert coax to ethernet. This is purely on a physical level and does not work for computer usage.

What you want are called moca adapters. The exact details depend on where the other end of the coax is and for example if your internet also is connected to the same coax.

In the simplest case you put a moca adapter in the room near the router hook the coax to one side of the moca adapter and the other to a lan port on the router with ethernet. In the remote room you do the same but connect the ethernet to the pc. Your pc thinks it has a ethernet cable all the way to the router.
 
Before you buy anything, make sure it’s compatible with Frontier. If you’re using Frontier telco line as your comm’s, you’ll need an ADSL modem/router combo.
https://updater.com/guides/frontier-compatible-modems
Additionally, don’t spend big $ on a device that is above your needs. If you can run one ethernet cable from the router to any other room easily, that’s all you need to add an access point (mesh) connection.
 
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Is this what I need for the COAX?
https://a.co/d/3fLVgqK
I will research the compatibility.
I will look to see if there’s a COAX in the room the routers in.
You need those. You also need a free coax near the primary router and near a WIFI dead spot (or where you want wired connectivity). MoCA might not work, if the coax splitters are old. You might have to find your cable splitter(s) and upgrade them to support MoCA.
 
It comes with 2 COAX splitters. Do I even need those though? Our COAX hasn’t been in use for years for cable TV.
I can't answer that. I don't know what splitters you have. Start by using a straight coax between the two units. Verify functionality. THEN, move one to the other location. Test again. If it doesn't work, then your coax infrastructure will have to be investigated. Old, low frequency splitters will stop MoCA from working.
 
optimum is coax cable running directly between the 2 locations. Depends on how old the splitters are if they did cable tv they might be ok. It is the very old ones that did antenna tv that are almost guaranteed to filter the moca signals.

You can replace splitters you don't need with simple barrel connectors. You might want a splitter if you say wanted to run moca units in 2 or more remote rooms. They all share the total bandwidth but 2.5g of bandwidth is likely far more than your internet so having 3 or even 4 moca units on a network will not cause a issue.
 
The COAX used to run cable we just dont have it anymore. Id say probaby 2-4 rooms would get it if it we did go with the MoCA. Does the moca that plugs into the router plug into the COAX in the same room in the wall? Or does it need to be taken out to where the COAX is from?
 
Not sure your question.

If there is a coax jack on the wall in the room with the router you just hook the coax to that port. Key for this all to work though is some place all the wall coax jacks need to be connected. Could be a big splitter that connects them in one central room or they could be daisy changed with splitters behind each wall plate. You are going to have to investigate.

In general if all the jacks used to work for cable tv then they are all connected and should work for moca.

Now if your questions related to the internet connection coming in on coax that gets a bit more messy. Moca and docsis can in most cases coexist on the same cable. You might need a filter to prevent the moca signal from going outside your house. None of this applies if you have fiber or dsl or something not on a cable modem. Even if you do have a cable modem many time the ISP will just ignore your in house coax and run a new lead though the wall.
 
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I will look into the filter stuff. This is our router. It has a COAX plug on the back of it, does that still need a MoCA adapter, or can I just plug it in with a COAX cable and use the ethernet adapter on the other end for the computer? Or is a MoCA adapter still needed?
You would still need a MoCA adapter on the other end. -- https://community.verizon.com/t5/Fios-Internet-and-High-Speed/G1100-and-MoCA/td-p/1549747
Good news, if you buy a pair, you could theoretically have wired connections in two different locations.
And MoCA 2.5 adapters are backward compatible with the 2.0 adapter in your FIOS router. -- See #10 -- https://mocalliance.org/about/faqs.php