Need opinions on my very first costum built PC (still not bought yet)

[Lucine]

List of considered components:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BfgZHN

Any opinions on the chosen list would be highly appreciated. I'm inexperienced, so I'm fairly sure I may have not selected the right parts. The PC I want is for Gaming. I hope to be able to play modern games on it, such as The Witcher 3, and the like. My budget isn't great though, so I can't buy very expensive parts. Thank you all in advance.

 

[mcconkeymike]

I'd go with a higher end video card if you can afford it, at least the 1060 6gb and you might be required to run Windows 10 with Kabylake, not certain if it is compatible with Win7. Otherwise, not bad.

 

[Lucine]

I'd go with a higher end video card if you can afford it, at least the 1060 6gb and you might be required to run Windows 10 with Kabylake, not certain if it is compatible with Win7. Otherwise, not bad.

Hey mcconkeymike, thank you for the answer. I do not know what is "Kabylake" is, do you mind elaborating please? Also, why you think I might be required to run Windows 10?

As for the Video Card, would the current one I chose perform fairly poorly you think?

Thank you in advance.

 

[mcconkeymike]

The 7XXX series of Intel processors are called Kabylake and I think I read somewhere that the Kabylake processors/motherboards don't support Windows 7. While I could be wrong, I would recommend Windows 10 because it is much faster than 7. As for the video card, I guess it really depends on how visually demanding of games that you play and what resolutions you'll be playing at. It you are playing at 1080p 60hz, you'll probably want the GTX 1060 6gb. Will using a 1050ti run the games, probably, but the 1060 will do it better and last you a bit longer than starting with such a lower end card.

 

[Zerk2012]

You need windows 10 for that build, buy a better video card GTX 1060 at least for gaming.
Buy a better quality power supply.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DPCwrH/seasonic-power-supply-ssr550rm
Everything else looks fine.

 

[Lucine]

The 7XXX series of Intel processors are called Kabylake and I think I read somewhere that the Kabylake processors/motherboards don't support Windows 7. While I could be wrong, I would recommend Windows 10 because it is much faster than 7. As for the video card, I guess it really depends on how visually demanding of games that you play and what resolutions you'll be playing at. It you are playing at 1080p 60hz, you'll probably want the GTX 1060 6gb. Will using a 1050ti run the games, probably, but the 1060 will do it better and last you a bit longer than starting with such a lower end card.

Thanks, will consider all of that.

 

[Lucine]

You need windows 10 for that build, buy a better video card GTX 1060 at least for gaming.
Buy a better quality power supply.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DPCwrH/seasonic-power-supply-ssr550rm
Everything else looks fine.

Hey Zerk, thanks for the answer. That power supply isn't available in all the markets I researched (I live in the middle-east, so there is availability issues with certain brands). Here is a list of all the power supplies I found. Would you recommend any of them (that is also not too expensive)?:

http://citycenter.jo/index.php?route=product/asearch&path=18_78&filter=STOCKS=a=b=c

 

[madmatt30]

You need windows 10 for that build, buy a better video card GTX 1060 at least for gaming.
Buy a better quality power supply.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DPCwrH/seasonic-power-supply-ssr550rm
Everything else looks fine.

Hey Zerk, thanks for the answer. That power supply isn't available in all the markets I researched (I live in the middle-east, so there is availability issues with certain brands). Here is a list of all the power supplies I found. Would you recommend any of them (that is also not too expensive)?:

http://citycenter.jo/index.php?route=product/asearch&path=18_78&filter=STOCKS=a=b=c

http://citycenter.jo/index.php?route=product/product&path=18_78&product_id=2908&filter=STOCKS=a=b=c

If thats within budget its an absolutely excellent psu.

If youre tight on budget drop the cpu to the 7600 non k,dump the aftermarket cooler,try & squeexze a better gpu in there
minimum amd rx 470.

rx 480 on there for 33% more than the 1050ti

http://citycenter.jo/index.php?route=product/product&filter_name=rx%20470&limit=100&product_id=2955

 

[Zerk2012]

http://citycenter.jo/index.php?route=product/product&path=18_78&product_id=2908&filter=STOCKS=a=b=c@@MANUFFUNAM=EVGA=24=Filter+by+Brand+
More power than you need but good quality.

 

[Lucine]

You need windows 10 for that build, buy a better video card GTX 1060 at least for gaming.
Buy a better quality power supply.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DPCwrH/seasonic-power-supply-ssr550rm
Everything else looks fine.

Hey Zerk, thanks for the answer. That power supply isn't available in all the markets I researched (I live in the middle-east, so there is availability issues with certain brands). Here is a list of all the power supplies I found. Would you recommend any of them (that is also not too expensive)?:

http://citycenter.jo/index.php?route=product/asearch&path=18_78&filter=STOCKS=a=b=c

http://citycenter.jo/index.php?route=product/product&path=18_78&product_id=2908&filter=STOCKS=a=b=c

If thats within budget its an absolutely excellent psu.

If youre tight on budget drop the cpu to the 7600 non k,dump the aftermarket cooler,try & squeexze a better gpu in there
minimum amd rx 470.

rx 480 on there for 33% more than the 1050ti

http://citycenter.jo/index.php?route=product/product&filter_name=rx%20470&limit=100&product_id=2955

Thank you Matt. I will consider the power supply you recommended (the price is reasonable). As for the aftermarket Cooler, I was told that the PC will be making a bit of noise without it, and considering I'm sensitive to such sounds, it will likely be a deal breaker for me if I let the PC do that (correct me if I'm wrong in believing that the lack of the cooler will make additional noise).

As for the GPU you recommended. It is the same price as GTX 1060 with 1 extra GB vram. Is the AMD one you recommended better than that? I was also told that some games are not as well optimized when working on an AMD GPU, is that the case with this card? Thank you in advance.

 

[Lucine]

http://citycenter.jo/index.php?route=product/product&path=18_78&product_id=2908&filter=STOCKS=a=b=c@@MANUFFUNAM=EVGA=24=Filter+by+Brand+
More power than you need but good quality.

Thank you. Duly noted.

 

[madmatt30]

Me & zerk are both recommending the same PSU mate so that should be a 100% purchase for you.

1060 3gb vs RX 480 4gb ??

Absolutely 100% the 480 mate ,the 3gb model of the 1060 does not just have half the vram of the 6gb model - it also has a reduced core count & reduced performance.

The Asus dual will also go really nicely with that white / black motherboard & is a very nice card.

Are you looking at overclocking this system ??
If not the h270 will save you a substantial sum of money.
http://citycenter.jo/index.php?route=product/product&filter_name=H270&product_id=3227

 

[madmatt30]

"Instead of having a base clock of 3.3GHz and turbo frequency (single core boost) of 3.7GHz under load, AMD confirmed that the Ryzen 5 1600X will actually have the same boost frequency as the Ryzen 7 1800X at 4GHz – not a lowly 3.7GHz as some rumors have suggested. The base clock is higher too, at 3.6GHz compared to the earlier-reported 3.3GHz."

Well , that's what I was after personally.

 

[Lucine]

Me & zerk are both recommending the same PSU mate so that should be a 100% purchase for you.

1060 3gb vs RX 480 4gb ??

Absolutely 100% the 480 mate ,the 3gb model of the 1060 does not just have half the vram of the 6gb model - it also has a reduced core count & reduced performance.

The Asus dual will also go really nicely with that white / black motherboard & is a very nice card.

Are you looking at overclocking this system ??
If not the h270 will save you a substantial sum of money.
http://citycenter.jo/index.php?route=product/product&filter_name=H270&product_id=3227

I will definitely go for that PSU. As for the Graphics Card, I wasn't trying to be argumentative (I admit to ignorance), it is just that I heard some games wasn't very compatible with AMD Cards. I could very well be wrong. As for the Vram, maybe I'm not seeing something, but isn't the difference is 1 GB (AMD 4 GB, GTX 3 GB)?. I would happily go for AMD if it was the better choice. Thank you.

 

[Lucine]

Are you looking at overclocking this system ??
If not the h270 will save you a substantial sum of money.
http://citycenter.jo/index.php?route=product/product&filter_name=H270&product_id=3227

On the overclocking matter. I don't even know what that means.

About the Motherboard you recommended, it is 15 JOD less than the one I intended to buy. Is there a difference in performance between the 2 (if so, what is it/by how much)?:

Original consideration:

http://citycenter.jo/index.php?route=product/product&path=18_72&product_id=3222&filter=STOCKS=a=b=c

The one you kindly recommended:

http://citycenter.jo/index.php?route=product/product&filter_name=H270&product_id=3227

Thank you in advance.

 

[Lucine]

"Instead of having a base clock of 3.3GHz and turbo frequency (single core boost) of 3.7GHz under load, AMD confirmed that the Ryzen 5 1600X will actually have the same boost frequency as the Ryzen 7 1800X at 4GHz – not a lowly 3.7GHz as some rumors have suggested. The base clock is higher too, at 3.6GHz compared to the earlier-reported 3.3GHz."

Well , that's what I was after personally.

This is in reference to what? I'm confused, sorry.

 

[mjslakeridge]

If you don't plan on overclocking (increasing the voltage/multiplier of the CPU), then you can buy the non "K" version of the cpu. This will allow you to use a non -"Z" motherboard, saving a few dollars. If you want to use the board you selected with a non - "K" motherboard, it will work just fine.

Also, you can save about $100 by buying Windows 10 Home vs. Windows 7 Ultimate (if that PCPartpicker price is correct).

Edit: I think Madmatt got his threads confused and responded to the wrong one.

 

[Lucine]

If you don't plan on overclocking (increasing the voltage/multiplier of the CPU), then you can buy the non "K" version of the cpu. This will allow you to use a non -"Z" motherboard, saving a few dollars. If you want to use the board you selected with a non - "K" motherboard, it will work just fine.

Also, you can save about $100 by buying Windows 10 Home vs. Windows 7 Ultimate (if that PCPartpicker price is correct).

Edit: I think Madmatt got his threads confused and responded to the wrong one.

Made changes. Thank you!

 

[Lucine]

If you don't plan on overclocking (increasing the voltage/multiplier of the CPU), then you can buy the non "K" version of the cpu. This will allow you to use a non -"Z" motherboard, saving a few dollars. If you want to use the board you selected with a non - "K" motherboard, it will work just fine.

Also, you can save about $100 by buying Windows 10 Home vs. Windows 7 Ultimate (if that PCPartpicker price is correct).

Edit: I think Madmatt got his threads confused and responded to the wrong one.

By the way, I just looked up a guide on "Overclocking" hardware. I'm surprised on how common that term is used, when it generally lead to negative results. Why are people fixated on doing something so unwise? The little performance boost isn't worth the risk, in my opinion.

 

[mjslakeridge]

Overclocking can be done safely, by someone who knows what they are doing, and who gradually increases the multiplier/voltage and runs a stress test after each increase to ensure stability. Plus, using the right motherboard, PSU, cpu cooler, etc. to handle the increased heat generated. I personally don't overclock any of my rigs, because they are fine for my use without any overclocking. For some people overclocking is a hobby, trying to get the most out of their rigs.

 

[madmatt30]

"Instead of having a base clock of 3.3GHz and turbo frequency (single core boost) of 3.7GHz under load, AMD confirmed that the Ryzen 5 1600X will actually have the same boost frequency as the Ryzen 7 1800X at 4GHz – not a lowly 3.7GHz as some rumors have suggested. The base clock is higher too, at 3.6GHz compared to the earlier-reported 3.3GHz."

Well , that's what I was after personally.

This is in reference to what? I'm confused, sorry.

That was indeed posted on the wrong thread & I have no option to delete it - just ignore it mate,does not concern you at all.

 

[madmatt30]

Are you looking at overclocking this system ??
If not the h270 will save you a substantial sum of money.
http://citycenter.jo/index.php?route=product/product&filter_name=H270&product_id=3227

On the overclocking matter. I don't even know what that means.

About the Motherboard you recommended, it is 15 JOD less than the one I intended to buy. Is there a difference in performance between the 2 (if so, what is it/by how much)?:

Original consideration:

http://citycenter.jo/index.php?route=product/product&path=18_72&product_id=3222&filter=STOCKS=a=b=c

The one you kindly recommended:

http://citycenter.jo/index.php?route=product/product&filter_name=H270&product_id=3227

Thank you in advance.

Performance wise no difference between the h270 & z270 board at all - the z board allows easy overclocking & faster ram speeds.
Irregardles of that I thought the price difference was bigger than that,for only 15 JOD extra probably sick with the z series board anyway.

Regarding the gpu's, if it were between the 1060 6gb & the rx 480 8gb it would be buyers choice & swings & roundabouts on performance depending on the game title.They are evenly matched cards.

The 1060 3gb though has a reduced core count & a theoretical 10-15% performance loss as compared to the 1060 6gb.
The 480 4gb has a slightly reduced memory clock which in all honesty impacts performance compared to the 8gb version by 3-4fps max.
Dont get me wrong there are some titles where a 1060 3gb still beats a 480 4gb but the 480 is still imo the better cardss of the two.
Irregardless ,youll be happy with either ,you choice at the end of the day - Id pick the 480 though for myself.