Need to Clone my New HD to an SSD

rgh43

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Considering the programs below to clone my existing HD to my new Samsung SSD. Any one of these that would be best or does anyone know of something better.

Clone HD for New HP. Software to perform migration/clone to a smaller drive (SSD) has become standard fodder. Such is available on the web.

https://www.easeus.com/partition-master/clone-larger-hdd-to-smaller-ssd.html
https://www.windowscentral.com/how-clone-your-pcs-hard-drive-macrium-reflect
https://www.backup-utility.com/clone/clone-large-hdd-to-smaller-ssd-4348.html

First off I intend to keep the old spin up 1 TB HD (stored) just in case of any warranty issues I might encounter later.
I have a copy of Win 10 that I made when I changed my current PC to 10 then went back to Win 7, can I use that copy with the serial # off the new PC's Win 10 to load Win 10 without the bloat ware from HP's original HD? Don't see why it would not work. Next how would it go if I picked a few programs off the original HD to load into my new SSD? That would most likely be very minimal as with my old PC any programs that I use that didn’t come with Win 7 I bought or got as freeware, I have a HP Laptop that has many many, programs that I do not nor have ever used. I'm not a gamer so I just use it for Web searching, or personal stuff, store pictures or docs. What might I be missing in all this?
 

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What size/make/model is the new SSD?
How much space is consumed ont he current HDD?
Laptop or desktop?

Cloning simply takes the entirety of the C drive (and boot partitions, etc) and applies it to a new drive.
You can't pick and choose applications in this process.
For a clone operation, you don't need any Windows install USB or DVD.


Specific cloning steps and tools to follow, once we get to that point.
 

rgh43

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This is a new HP Desktop so the HD doesn't have much on it The new SSD is a Samsung 970 EVO NVMeM.2, 500GB. The space occupied on the current 1TB HD just has Win10 + MSN Office for a total of 75GB. So really not much to transfer to the new PC SSD. When talking about a Win10 disc what I was getting at was to use my downloaded disc from Microsoft that I made after upgrading from Win7 to Win10 on my old PC. I made the disc as my thought was it is better to do a clean install rather than an upgrade in case your OSP is not really brand new so you have no potential issues that way. After thinking about your comment I took a look at "Computer" and "CP" to see what this HP had in it that was installed by HP, not really that much installed from HP compared to the HP laptop I bought from Costco a few years ago which had tons of installed stuff on it. So I think I will just do a straight clone. After all cloned I will have an internal WD 2TB Black installed in the Desktop for backup of all my files, folders etc. I save very few things to my actual Hard Drive, pretty much only the programs, I will backup my OSP and the WD HD to a Ext backup also just for safety or loss of a Drive.
I'm considering these programs to clone my existing HD to my new Samsung SSD. Any one that would be best or do you know of something better.
Clone HD for New HP
Software to perform migration/clone to a smaller drive (SSD) has become standard fodder. Such is available on the web.
https://www.easeus.com/partition-master/clone-larger-hdd-to-smaller-ssd.html
https://www.windowscentral.com/how-clone-your-pcs-hard-drive-macrium-reflect
https://www.backup-utility.com/clone/clone-large-hdd-to-smaller-ssd-4348.html
 

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If all it has is the OS and Office, and if this is going into a NVMe drive...a clean install on the SSD is strongly recommended.
 

rgh43

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Loading a clean install, interesting but why would that be better? Lot of issues cloning from one Drive to another?

HP Model 690-0067c
AMD Ryzen 7-1700 Ram 16GB 4GB AMD Radeon RX 550 Graphics

This PC has all the HP programs that come with a new PC so If any warranty issues come up I think I have those programs installed if they need to get into the PC remotely. I bought it at Costco so I have a long warranty on it also. With all that said my current PC I built about 5yrs ago and the only programs on it are what I installed like Office, AVG, and downloads for my AMD Audio & AMD Video cards. So considering all that I would think I could get by without the HP programs anyway as I haven't had anything like that on this PC.






 

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Between SATA drives, either HDD or SSD, cloning is generally no problem.
I use Macrium Reflect, and have done it many, many times without issue.

Going into a new NVMe drive, there are special considerations:
https://forum.macrium.com/Topic21731-1.aspx

And since this is a brand new system without much on it...start clean, without all the HP bloatware.
 
i cloned a mutiboot (Win7/Ubuntu)/multiple partition/multi-filesystem (NTFS/EXT4) installation with Clonezilla, and tested restoring from that image without issue.

Clonezilla is not pretty (no mouse GUI, looks like old 3-color BIOS menus/DOS from 1991), and takes a bit of practice (menus regarding source/destination are not perfectly intuitive), but, it has never failed me...(unlike AOMEI Backuppper/Easeus Todo Backup, which each failed in my practice restoration scenarios, each being much prettier to look at and easier to use...if they always worked); an untested/unverified cloning/imaging solution could lead to very disappointing results when/if needing it to actually work after a disaster)

(I used to love testing such solutions, patiently waiting the 2-3 hours required to image 200-300 GB of data to an external 5400 rpm hard drive; finally, after getting NVME storage, i realized I could fully reinstall the OS in 4-5 minutes, and install applications in short order if applications I use were prestored on separate external storage, with assorted other files stored in several cloud storage accounts. I still make a complete backup image every 4-6 months, ...just for practice making them)