Need tv advice for ps4 gaming

[jhowell]

Hi all,


So, my gf is now an ex and I'm buying the TV as I have wanted to for a while. The only things I use my tv for now are 1. PS4 - shooters like destiny ect. 2. Youtube.

I dont pay for cable and wont.

So here are the two I am considering. I know they are qvc links, deal with it.

1. http://www.qvc.com/LG-55-Smart-1080p-LED-HDTV-with-TruMotion120Hz-&-Wifi.product.E284670.html?sc=E284670-User&cm_sp=VIEWPOSITION-_-10-_-E284670&catentryImage=http://images.qvc.com/is/image/e/70/e284670.001?$uslarge$

This tv is 1080p, 120hz yada yada. I am challenged in figuring out if input lag would be an issue. Being that ps4 only works displays 1080p, I thought it would be a cheaper solution.

2. http://www.qvc.com/Samsung-55-Class-4K-Ultra-HD-Smart-TV-w-Connect-Share.product.E282377.html?sc=E282377-User&cm_sp=VIEWPOSITION-_-5-_-E282377&catentryImage=http://images.qvc.com/is/image/e/77/e282377.001?$uslarge$

This is a samsung 4k uhd tv, 120hz yada yada. Same issue as before, not sure of input lag.

My question to you my friends, what makes the most sense for me to purchase. I dont want to exceed 1200 in cost but dont want to buy something thats crap and wont last me but a year or two. I'm pretty on the fence about 4k being that ps4 isn't looking like it will adopt 4k anytime soon. Im really asking whether or not I should future proof with the 4k, or go with a cheaper 1080p.

Disclaimer, my previous tv was a LG 60 inch with 240hz refresh. I REALLY loved how smooth the tv was, almost unnatural, but I hear that really screws up ps4 gaming.

Let me know what you think! If you dont like either of my choice, feel free to send me another. Too much marketing going on around tv's these days.... lol

 

[David_24]

ps4 hardware can't do 4k and will never come close. very little 4k content and frankly 1080p is probably the best human eyes can see.
just make sure the tv is 120 hz, 1080p and has an hdmi connection.

 

[photonboy]

120/240Hz:

*NEVER use this mode for gaming. The input is still 60Hz thus you are connecting at 1080p/60Hz. What's happening if you enable the motion smoothing feature is that the HDTV's processor takes in a few frames, analyzes them, then creates ARTIFICIAL frames to insert by taking the difference between frame data.

This creates a significant DELAY which makes games more sluggish. It's not significant for normal video since it's not interactive thus waiting 1/10th second or whatever doesn't matter.

(It's really only ideal for sports to keep track of things moving fast... for movies or TV it looks unnatural. Movies for example are created with MOTION BLUR already artificially optimized for 24Hz. The higher the frame rate the LESS blur has to be added... it has to do with how the eye/brain is saturated with visual data and can't keep up thus the blurring.... too little data and we have to add it into the video itself to look right but at the expensive of image quality.)

4K:
This is problematic too for several reasons:
1) Too close and most video looks BAD
2) Too far and there's no point to 4K
3) Adds to the price... at the same price you can get a 1080p HDTV with better video processing etc (pixel count is just one aspect of image quality)

Summary:
Get a high quality 1080p HDTV, perhaps 2:1 (distance to diagonal) to 2.3, and see if it has a "GAMING" mode though many HDTV's have reasonably low latency now. 120/240Hz for sports if you want, but that can be disabled in settings.

Smart mode Netflix whatever..

 

[jhowell]

120/240Hz:

*NEVER use this mode for gaming. The input is still 60Hz thus you are connecting at 1080p/60Hz. What's happening if you enable the motion smoothing feature is that the HDTV's processor takes in a few frames, analyzes them, then creates ARTIFICIAL frames to insert by taking the difference between frame data.

This creates a significant DELAY which makes games more sluggish. It's not significant for normal video since it's not interactive thus waiting 1/10th second or whatever doesn't matter.

(It's really only ideal for sports to keep track of things moving fast... for movies or TV it looks unnatural. Movies for example are created with MOTION BLUR already artificially optimized for 24Hz. The higher the frame rate the LESS blur has to be added... it has to do with how the eye/brain is saturated with visual data and can't keep up thus the blurring.... too little data and we have to add it into the video itself to look right but at the expensive of image quality.)

4K:
This is problematic too for several reasons:
1) Too close and most video looks BAD
2) Too far and there's no point to 4K
3) Adds to the price... at the same price you can get a 1080p HDTV with better video processing etc (pixel count is just one aspect of image quality)

Summary:
Get a high quality 1080p HDTV, perhaps 2:1 (distance to diagonal) to 2.3, and see if it has a "GAMING" mode though many HDTV's have reasonably low latency now. 120/240Hz for sports if you want, but that can be disabled in settings.

Smart mode Netflix whatever..

So from what I am hearing/finding in research is that 4k is pointless. Would you agree?

Now that I am going for a 1080p tv, should I shoot for 120hz or just let the cards fall where they may?

 

[jhowell]

120/240Hz:

*NEVER use this mode for gaming. The input is still 60Hz thus you are connecting at 1080p/60Hz. What's happening if you enable the motion smoothing feature is that the HDTV's processor takes in a few frames, analyzes them, then creates ARTIFICIAL frames to insert by taking the difference between frame data.

This creates a significant DELAY which makes games more sluggish. It's not significant for normal video since it's not interactive thus waiting 1/10th second or whatever doesn't matter.

(It's really only ideal for sports to keep track of things moving fast... for movies or TV it looks unnatural. Movies for example are created with MOTION BLUR already artificially optimized for 24Hz. The higher the frame rate the LESS blur has to be added... it has to do with how the eye/brain is saturated with visual data and can't keep up thus the blurring.... too little data and we have to add it into the video itself to look right but at the expensive of image quality.)

4K:
This is problematic too for several reasons:
1) Too close and most video looks BAD
2) Too far and there's no point to 4K
3) Adds to the price... at the same price you can get a 1080p HDTV with better video processing etc (pixel count is just one aspect of image quality)

Summary:
Get a high quality 1080p HDTV, perhaps 2:1 (distance to diagonal) to 2.3, and see if it has a "GAMING" mode though many HDTV's have reasonably low latency now. 120/240Hz for sports if you want, but that can be disabled in settings.

Smart mode Netflix whatever..

What do you think about this set. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/vizio-e-series-55-class-54-6-diag--led-1080p-smart-hdtv-black/3417039.p?id=1219581289772&skuId=3417039