[SOLVED] Need YOUR help... Which PC???

[Mmmfff]

I was previously going to attempt to upgrade my sons computer but to be honest it's now pretty old and the idea of trying to do it got too complicated for me very quickly.

So i am now looking to buy a decent gaming PC for him, something good for now and good for a while to come. He plays fortnite and would also like to start streaming his gaming. - i'd also like the PC to be able to handle most popular games that he may turn to in the near future. He's 12 so Fortnite probably wont last forever!

What are your thoughts on the following two PC's? Your help is VERY VERY much appreciated!!

Acer Nitro

Dell G5

Thanks
- overwhelmed mum

 

[Zizo007]

I was previously going to attempt to upgrade my sons computer but to be honest it's now pretty old and the idea of trying to do it got too complicated for me very quickly.

So i am now looking to buy a decent gaming PC for him, something good for now and good for a while to come. He plays fortnite and would also like to start streaming his gaming. - i'd also like the PC to be able to handle most popular games that he may turn to in the near future. He's 12 so Fortnite probably wont last forever!

What are your thoughts on the following two PC's? Your help is VERY VERY much appreciated!!

Acer Nitro

Dell G5

Thanks
- overwhelmed mum

While its better and cheaper to build a new PC I wouldn't recommed either of the two systems you mentioned unless you choose them with 16Gb of RAM.
Most new games need 16Gb of RAM and the 8Gb will get filled pretty fast and will slow or not make games start.

 

[Zizo007]

From your website this is the best value even though its more expensive, it has 16Gb RAM and a much better CPU:
https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/compu...1660-ti-2-tb-hdd-240-gb-ssd-10193642-pdt.html

 

[Zizo007]

If you can buy from Amazon this one is the best value £529.95 and will run pretty close to the above PC, its not an FX-8350 as written in the link, its a Ryzen 2600X 6 Core 12 Threads with 16Gb RAM and WiFi:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/ADMI-Falcon-Gaming-PC-FX-8350/dp/B00MRBFE8I/ref=sr_1_2?fst=asff&qid=1580925551&refinements=p_n_feature_browse-bin:1481783031,p_n_feature_keywords_two_browse-bin:2790451031&rnid=2106358031&s=computers&sr=1-2

 

[Mmmfff]

While its better and cheaper to build a new PC I wouldn't recommed either of the two systems you mentioned unless you choose them with 16Gb of RAM.
Most new games need 16Gb of RAM and the 8Gb will get filled pretty fast and will slow or not make games start.

I figured, I wouldn’t mind upgrading the memory myself. Question though: can you pair 8gb with 4 gb for now(I have one lying around)

 

[Zizo007]

I figured, I wouldn’t mind upgrading the memory myself. Question though: can you pair 8gb with 4 gb for now(I have one lying around)

No you can't, not only because its 4Gb, also it needs to be DDR4 of the same speed and it needs to be compatible with the motherboard. Prebuilt PCs never give info about the RAM that's compatible with their system. You will have to go blindly and try every RAM in the market until one works without issues.
That's why building a PC is better or get a PC with already 16Gb RAM installed.

 

[Mmmfff]

From your website this is the best value even though its more expensive, it has 16Gb RAM and a much better CPU:
https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/compu...1660-ti-2-tb-hdd-240-gb-ssd-10193642-pdt.html

My budget was originally so low, I’ve found myself slowly increasing the further I get into my search 😂 I did like the acer, someone said to me that they generally tend to be on the better side for gaming pcs. I can upgrade RAM afterwards myself.

However is there a huge jump from i5 to the i7 and is it worth it

 

[Mmmfff]

If you can buy from Amazon this one is the best value £529.95 and will run pretty close to the above PC, its not an FX-8350 as written in the link, its a Ryzen 2600X 6 Core 12 Threads with 16Gb RAM and WiFi:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/ADMI-Falcon-Gaming-PC-FX-8350/dp/B00MRBFE8I/ref=sr_1_2?fst=asff&qid=1580925551&refinements=p_n_feature_browse-bin:1481783031,p_n_feature_keywords_two_browse-bin:2790451031&rnid=2106358031&s=computers&sr=1-2

I get worried straying from intel and Nvidia, I did for his last PC and we seemed to start to run into problems not too long after, not sure if we were unlucky though

 

[ScrewySqrl]

If you feel up to building it yourself:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (£157.98 @ More Computers)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 GAMING X ATX AM4 Motherboard (£135.95 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Patriot Viper 4 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3733 Memory (£94.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£99.98 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 5700 8 GB Video Card (£286.48 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case (£40.92 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: be quiet! System Power 9 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£42.97 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £859.27
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-05 18:12 GMT+0000

this will do 1440p gaming at 70-90 FPS, 1080P in exceess of 144 fps

 

[Zizo007]

I get worried straying from intel and Nvidia, I did for his last PC and we seemed to start to run into problems not too long after, not sure if we were unlucky though

Actually I was a fan of Intel and my last system was an i7 4770K but things have changed and Intel are behind in the CPU business. AMD now have faster and cheaper CPUs so I really recommend AMD unless you want to pay more for nothing. Nvidia are currently doing better than AMD but AMD are cheaper for the same performance so why not.
Yes I have an Nvidia 2080 Ti but that's because AMD have nothing at this speed to compete with Nvidia.

 

[Mmmfff]

Actually I was a fan of Intel and my last system was an i7 4770K but things have changed and Intel are behind in the CPU business. AMD now have faster and cheaper CPUs so I really recommend AMD unless you want to pay more for nothing. Nvidia are currently doing better than AMD but AMD are cheaper for the same performance so why not.
Yes I have an Nvidia 2080 Ti but that's because AMD have nothing at this speed to compete with Nvidia.

So which AMD should I be looking out for to be on par with the i5 and also maybe for i7 so I can weigh up the savings without losing performance? And also if you could also recommend an amd graphics card that would be amazing! I was looking between Nvidia 1660ti and 2060 quality

Sorry!

 

[Mmmfff]

Also found this one - any opinions?

Stormforce

 

[Zizo007]

The Amazon system I posted is the best you can get for that price. The 2600X is faster than an i5 9400.
If you want i7 level, get a 3600X or 3700X.

For the GPU what resolution and Hz will you be using? What's the monitor model?
An RX580 is good for 1080p60Hz which standard and most common.

Hers the best i7 like you can get so its either the 1st Amazon one I posted or this one, your choice, better CPU 8 core 16 threads 3700X 16Gb RAM RTX2060(Better than 1660Ti) with RGB, the RAM speed and PSU are better in this one:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/ADMI-Gamin...keywords=3700x+desktop&qid=1580930087&sr=8-10

 

[greigm78]

Also found this one - any opinions?

Stormforce

Find a local system builder or look at the likes of CCL Computers and get , if it must be a prebuilt, a decent spec for your money.

CCL Ryzen Gaming PC | CCL Computers

3.6GHz AMD Ryzen 5-3600 with 6GB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER Graphics - 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, WiFi

www.cclonline.com

While its a reasonable system with good CPU and RAM, you could do much better for the money building yourself.

But the above would tick all of your boxes regarding gaming on fortnite and beyond. For now anyway.

If I were self building I'd probably look at
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (£157.98 @ More Computers)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard (£94.95 @ AWD-IT)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£69.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£99.98 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 5600 XT 6 GB PULSE Video Card (£271.13 @ Alza)
Case: Phanteks P300 ATX Mid Tower Case (£50.98 @ Laptops Direct)
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (£60.97 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £805.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-05 22:20 GMT+0000

 

[allbies1]

Find a local system builder or look at the likes of CCL Computers and get , if it must be a prebuilt, a decent spec for your money.

CCL Ryzen Gaming PC | CCL Computers

3.6GHz AMD Ryzen 5-3600 with 6GB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER Graphics - 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, WiFi

www.cclonline.com

While its a reasonable system with good CPU and RAM, you could do much better for the money building yourself.

But the above would tick all of your boxes regarding gaming on fortnite and beyond. For now anyway.

If I were self building I'd probably look at
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (£157.98 @ More Computers)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard (£94.95 @ AWD-IT)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£69.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£99.98 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 5600 XT 6 GB PULSE Video Card (£271.13 @ Alza)
Case: Phanteks P300 ATX Mid Tower Case (£50.98 @ Laptops Direct)
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (£60.97 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £805.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-05 22:20 GMT+0000

I second this. If you are able to order the parts listed and have a local PC builder you trust to complete it for a fee you would be getting way more value for money for a better system. As also mentioned some websites like CCL or Overclockers can build your PC for a fee using parts bought directly from them. It's worth putting your question to them also on their dedicated support systems / forum; you may be able to barter a slightly better deal than usual.