[SOLVED] Needing suggestions for $700 budget build (Some salvaged parts)

[lamkinsanthony]

I have planned an upcoming build to upgrade my hardware to current standards since most of my core components are now out of date and no longer used in higher-end machines (Which makes upgrading impossible). I have also asked in the past about certain gaming/streaming builds with which the fine folks here have not disappointed. Yet again, I am back once more for more.

I will be using this PC build for Gaming since I have built a streaming PC that is taking the added stress off my current build quite nicely. I have no preference between AMD and Intel and the same can be said about Nvidea and AMD cards.

With that being said, I will be salvaging the following parts.

Hard Disk
Samsung SSD 840 EVO 500GB
2nd Hard Drive
WD10EARS 1TB

PSU
Rosewill RX Xtreme Series RX850-S-B 850W

Case
DIYPC Alnitak-BK Black USB 3.0 ATX and Micro-ATX Mid Tower (If in the budget I wouldn't mind upgrading to a full tower)


What can you guys come up with? Thank you phenomenal people so much!

Old build
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 955
Deneb 45nm Technology
RAM
16.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 666MHz
(9-9-9-24)
Motherboard
MSI 790X-G45 (MS-7622) (CPU 1)
Graphics
HP 2311x (1920x1080@60Hz)
2047MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti
(ASUStek Computer Inc)
Storage
465GB Samsung SSD 860 EVO 500GB
ATA Device (SATA (SSD)
931GB Western Digital WDC WD10EARS-
00Y5B1 ATA Device (SATA )

 

[InhibitionOverride]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/szhdQZ

This seems to be the minimum, it's super pragmatic planning to re-use everything it can. it's only 610$. lot's of room to upgrade. could change the case I recommend the fractal design focus g (if you buy an extra case fan.), could bump up the graphics card to an rtx 2060, could bump up the motherboard and ram to 3200mhz (but not super recommended). I also don't know if you need a monitor or mouse or keyboard.

 

[Supahos]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($164.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B450M-A/CSM Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($79.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($90.98 @ Newegg Business)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB VENTUS OC Video Card ($359.99 @ B&H)
Total: $695.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-02-23 13:40 EST-0500


Would be how I'd spend my $700 in your situation

 

[lamkinsanthony]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/szhdQZ

This seems to be the minimum, it's super pragmatic planning to re-use everything it can. it's only 610$. lot's of room to upgrade. could change the case I recommend the fractal design focus g (if you buy an extra case fan.), could bump up the graphics card to an rtx 2060, could bump up the motherboard and ram to 3200mhz (but not super recommended). I also don't know if you need a monitor or mouse or keyboard.

Sorry, I should have been more clear. I posted my old build out of habit. I'll simply be salvaging the parts that are universal to PC's such as the above mentioned and my mouse and keyboard (I keep several backups due to having two boys 😀 )
What you see in my profile photo is the current setup on my desk (Both touch screen strand alone PC that my oldest is using Stream PC with the screen in the middle and gaming PC connected to the larger right screen). If there are good deals on some matching mountable screens I would for sure like to know about them for I will be upgrading those eventually but am not factoring that into the current build.
Also, I agree that it's pragmatic to plan reusing parts. That's been my issue thus far however I am trying to stretch my dollar as much as possible since I am unsure of when I will have a budget for a whole PC rather than a standard upgrade.
I do appreciate the feedback!

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($164.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B450M-A/CSM Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($79.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($90.98 @ Newegg Business)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB VENTUS OC Video Card ($359.99 @ B&H)
Total: $695.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-02-23 13:40 EST-0500


Would be how I'd spend my $700 in your situation

Seems pretty solid. I will compare some specs and see what it looks like.

I'm hoping to see a few more ideas if anyone has them before accepting my personal best answer. So far the above two look fairly decent by far.

 

[Supahos]

I almost built that same setup 3-4 weeks ago... But decided I wanted to wait for 3rd gen ryzen as I won't have much time to play between now and July anyway

 

[Karadjgne]

Intel can't touch Ryzen in the budget department, not for similar performance and adaptability.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M Steel Legend Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($83.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($109.99 @ Newegg Business)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB GAMING X Video Card ($287.00 @ B&H)
Total: $680.96 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-02-23 14:39 EST-0500

Unless you plan on custom loop liquid cooling, full tower cases are a complete waste of space, components are getting smaller, sli/CF is rarely used, take up too much real estate. The insides of most modern systems end up looking like someone threw a hot-dog down a hallway. There's very few who need 10hdd bays, upto 5 or 6 optical bays etc. If anything, ppl are seriously considering mITX as their next build

 

[lamkinsanthony]

Intel can't touch Ryzen in the budget department, not for similar performance and adaptability.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M Steel Legend Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($83.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($109.99 @ Newegg Business)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB GAMING X Video Card ($287.00 @ B&H)
Total: $680.96 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-02-23 14:39 EST-0500

Unless you plan on custom loop liquid cooling, full tower cases are a complete waste of space, components are getting smaller, sli/CF is rarely used, take up too much real estate. The insides of most modern systems end up looking like someone threw a hot-dog down a hallway. There's very few who need 10hdd bays, upto 5 or 6 optical bays etc. If anything, ppl are seriously considering mITX as their next build

I tend to agree somewhat on the size being an issue. I was thinking of a full tower as a means for increasing chances of better airflow as well as well as adaptability. How ever using my old case would not be an issue. Simply trying to exhaust all avenues before making an informed choice. Another decent build, though. Thank you for replying!

 

[assasin32]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($164.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B450 AORUS M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($90.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB MINI ITX OC Video Card ($345.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design - Arc Midi ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $726.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-02-24 18:02 EST-0500

Should allow you to reuse everything.

 

[King Dranzer]

Both Supahos and assasin32 have given you solid builds. R5 2600 and RTX2060 combo will perform better than R5 2600X and GTX1660Ti combo.

If you need a case to upgrade I recommend Corsair 200R or 270R, both of them are easy to build in and pack decent quality.

 

[Karadjgne]

Believe it or not, the better airflow actually happens in mATX cases that have 2x2 ability. With the smaller space, and same cfm from fans, you get a proportionately larger draw area from exhaust vacuum and a proportionately larger fill from intake exhaust.

Imagine 100cfm in/out of a 2cu.ft box (mATX) vrs 100cfm in/out a 3cu.ft box (ATX) vrs 100cfm in/out a 5cu.ft box (full). The air is replaced much better and faster in the smaller box. You have to add a serious amount of fans to a full tower to get an equitable amount of flow. The advantage to a full tower over mATX is that with the larger proportional space inside, it takes a larger amount of energy to heat, which is replaced before that happens. With the small cases, small airspace, doesn't take much to heat one up, so airflow characteristics are greatly more important.

@King Dranzer

In defense of my build, which since your tastes have always been to sacrice the cpu to add a better gpu/s, I'll say this.

You won't necessarily need to mess with OC on a 2600x. It's regular boost clocks already put it at 2600 OC levels. So it's really a slightly more expensive plug-n-play cpu vrs one you have to mess with.

The gtx1660ti is upto @ $100 cheaper than the RTX2060, uses the same architecture just without DLSS or Ray Tracing, which honestly kill performance in most games and for those few who do have it encoded, aren't that much of a difference. As to performance, it's close enough to the 2060 so as to barely make any difference, a few fps that you'll never see with the way fps in games bounces all over the place.

 

[King Dranzer]

Believe it or not, the better airflow actually happens in mATX cases that have 2x2 ability. With the smaller space, and same cfm from fans, you get a proportionately larger draw area from exhaust vacuum and a proportionately larger fill from intake exhaust.

Imagine 100cfm in/out of a 2cu.ft box (mATX) vrs 100cfm in/out a 3cu.ft box (ATX) vrs 100cfm in/out a 5cu.ft box (full). The air is replaced much better and faster in the smaller box. You have to add a serious amount of fans to a full tower to get an equitable amount of flow. The advantage to a full tower over mATX is that with the larger proportional space inside, it takes a larger amount of energy to heat, which is replaced before that happens. With the small cases, small airspace, doesn't take much to heat one up, so airflow characteristics are greatly more important.

@King Dranzer

In defense of my build, which since your tastes have always been to sacrice the cpu to add a better gpu/s, I'll say this.

You won't necessarily need to mess with OC on a 2600x. It's regular boost clocks already put it at 2600 OC levels. So it's really a slightly more expensive plug-n-play cpu vrs one you have to mess with.

The gtx1660ti is upto @ $100 cheaper than the RTX2060, uses the same architecture just without DLSS or Ray Tracing, which honestly kill performance in most games and for those few who do have it encoded, aren't that much of a difference. As to performance, it's close enough to the 2060 so as to barely make any difference, a few fps that you'll never see with the way fps in games bounces all over the place.

Mid tower ATX is a sweet spot for me as it can have a very decent airflow even with the limited fans it comes with and yet be extremely easy to work in thanks to its elaborated design. I only recommended Full Tower case if one plans to atleast use AIO.

I do agree with your practical explanation of the airflow. But I am also taking ease of use into consideration. I do agree that airflow falls back a bit but not by much.

 

[Karadjgne]

Yeah, i like ATX mid too, I have 2x currently a CM 690 II Advanced (seriously good airflow case) and a Fractal Design Define R5. My issue is they sit on the floor (in a cubby built for pc's in the desk) since they are basically huge, barely smaller than some full towers and with no hdd cages in either, there's a ton of space doing exactly nothing behind the front fans.

Next build will be mITX, I want that sucker On the desk, not under it, with a 1660ti. Powerhouse for 1080p/60. That ti has higher OpenCL than a gtx1080, great for fullscreen gaming as I dislike Windowed.

 

[Barty1884]

A lot of the builds posted thus far are solid.

I'd suggest replacing the PSU though, if you're going with (essentially) an entirely new system.
I don't recall the OEM of the unit off-hand, but I don't think it was much beyond "ok" quality - and it's got to be >10 years old at this point.

I'd look to something like this, personally.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($164.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($64.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($90.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card ($279.00 @ B&H)
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass (Black/White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($53.98 @ Newegg Business)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 450 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $698.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-02-24 23:08 EST-0500

 

[lamkinsanthony]

A lot of the builds posted thus far are solid.

I'd suggest replacing the PSU though, if you're going with (essentially) an entirely new system.
I don't recall the OEM of the unit off-hand, but I don't think it was much beyond "ok" quality - and it's got to be >10 years old at this point.

I'd look to something like this, personally.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($164.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($64.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($90.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card ($279.00 @ B&H)
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass (Black/White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($53.98 @ Newegg Business)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 450 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $698.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-02-24 23:08 EST-0500

A funny thing happened. I think the power supply has had it in the current rig. But, I do like this over most of the other builds. Although I may just salvage my case anyway and put the extra $50 toward the build like thermal paste and such. Seriously though. Thank you all for the suggestions! I'm so far behind on current builds that it saddens me.

 

[King Dranzer]

I still recommend going for RTX2060 over GTX1660Ti

 

[lamkinsanthony]

I still recommend going for RTX2060 over GTX1660Ti

I'm probably going to deviate from the build here a bit and throw a few extra dollars for an EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC It will push me about $50 over my current budget but I have already factored in about $100 lower/higher for price fluctuations/extra stuff I will need like better thermal paste (which isn't that expensive) and also unknown variables since I prefer to be prepared.
Again, thank you all so much. If there are any other suggestions I will gladly take them into consideration and to heart. I truly do appreciate all you kind folks have done for me here.

 

[Supahos]

2060 smokes a 1070 in all situations, 1660ti is basically the same exact performance. Definitely do no spend more on it than either of those cards

 

[Karadjgne]

A gtx1070 would be a downgrade in performance from either the gtx1660ti or the rtx2060, so why you'd pay extra for a downgrade I'm not sure I understand.

 

[King Dranzer]

Either stick with GTX1660Ti or if spending more go for RTX2060 which is more powerful than GTX1660Ti and GTX1070. Going for GTX1070 is meaningless.

The reason I advised to go with RTX2060 over GTX1660Ti is because there is decent performance gain for minimal budget increase.

To make it clear GTX1660Ti and RTX2060 don't have similar performance. RTX2060 has clear and noticeable performance improvement over GTX1660Ti.

Going for GTX1070 is meaningless but if you can spend bit extra go for RTX2060.

 

[King Dranzer]

Here is the list:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($154.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B450 AORUS M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg Business)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB GAMING Video Card ($348.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 3.1 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($45.98 @ Newegg Business)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $769.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-01 08:08 EST-0500

 

[lamkinsanthony]

Here is the list:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($154.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B450 AORUS M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg Business)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB GAMING Video Card ($348.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 3.1 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($45.98 @ Newegg Business)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $769.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-01 08:08 EST-0500

It's looking like 2060 is a highly regarded card. I'll choose that one then for the basis of the build overall. I'm salvaging my current case for budget constraints and using that money toward a better PSU. I am paying attention I promise and checking this thread regularly. Again, You are all phenomenal!

 

[ocer9999]

A lot of the builds posted thus far are solid.

I'd suggest replacing the PSU though, if you're going with (essentially) an entirely new system.
I don't recall the OEM of the unit off-hand, but I don't think it was much beyond "ok" quality - and it's got to be >10 years old at this point.

I'd look to something like this, personally.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($164.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($64.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($90.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card ($279.00 @ B&H)
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass (Black/White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($53.98 @ Newegg Business)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 450 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $698.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-02-24 23:08 EST-0500

Seasonic is great PSU and even better than 500w+ no brand PSUs out there, but for that system and future upgrades I wouldn't use a 450w even if its really good.For a little bit more you can get a 550w same brand, worth the extra cost.

 

[Barty1884]

Seasonic is great PSU and even better than 500w+ no brand PSUs out there, but for that system and future upgrades I wouldn't use a 450w even if its really good.For a little bit more you can get a 550w same brand, worth the extra cost.

@ocer9999 The thread is ~2 weeks old. The 450W was the best price/quality available at the time.

You wouldn't use a 450W unit, even if it were really good? That system will pull well <250W under load, at stock. A 450W unit is more than capable.
Of course, if a comparable 550W unit is available for the same money, it's a no brainer. But given how frequently prices change, that suggestion based on price wasn't relevant at the time of the thread.