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"Moonraker" <moonraker@home.com> wrote in message
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>
> >>So, I understand that to mean you removed the Liteon drive and installed
> the Emprex
> drive in its place, on the same connector of the same cable....is that
> correct?<<
>
> NO, that may well not be correct, I'm pretty sure that when we plugged in
> the new drive from where the old one was it did not work, so my IT friend
> came and had a look, we tried different combinations of cable positions and
> slave / master positions until we could see them "listed".
>
> I have just checked them, by placing one of my sons games in each drive in
> turn, the game is loaded by both drives and is listed in explorer OK, - the
> "E" drive (cd rom) took about 20 seconds to load, The "D" drive (rewriter)
> took about 50 seconds.
Alright.....assuming that the technician did not assign drive letters, and the
optical drives are therefore lettered in the BIOS order, the rewriter being D: and
the CD-ROM being E: would indicate that the rewriter is master and the CD-ROM is
slave.....IF they are both on the same cable on the secondary controller.
In your follow-up post, you asked about sending the nero log and a shot on the Info
Tool output. That will be fine, but be sure the Info Tool shot or shots includes
the screen showing the "Configuration" tab. You should send them to this address:
glenventura@gmail.com
> Can I assume that everything is OK to load and use nero and incd. Is there a
> "correct" method of plugging in drives etc, i.e. such a drive should always
> be a slave / master to another drive / device, etc. etc Is there some TEST I
> can do to check whether the drives are ready to use nero / incd .
Nero should work regardless of how you have the drives connected in relation to each
other, unless the drives are just not compatible with each other for some reason.
In another post in this thread, Infidel already hit on what was to be my next
point....the version of Nero that comes with one drive may not work with any other
drive, since it is a modified, OEM license being used. If you uninstall Nero and
InCD through Add\Remove Programs, and then use the removal tools from Nero's web
site (if they are still available), that is all you should have to do, and then
reboot, prior to installing the software that comes with the Emprex drive. The fact
that you have Nero Info Tool screenshots to show indicates that you have not yet
removed Nero, and I don't know yet what software you got on the disc that came with
the Emprex drive.
> >>IOW, are you saying that you cannot read *any* discs with the new drive,
> or just
> > discs that were previously written with the old drive?
>
> As said above, seeing other pre-recorded discs doesn't seem to be a problem,
> I have not checked every disc in each drive but have also just tried an
> education cd in each drive, and again the rewriter took much longer to load
> to the screen.
>
> >>Can you read any other discs with the drive?
>
> YES, I CAN.
But you cannot read *any* discs that you wrote previously with the old
drive....correct? Were those discs written with InCD (packet-writer), or with Nero
(mastering app)? Also, you mentioned that you could not write to any CDs using
Nero, with the new drive (Emprex). Did Nero "see" the drive? IOW, in the Nero
software, when you got to the scrren to choose your recorder, did it show your
Emprex drive as a valid recording device?
> >>does it say "configured for optimal performance"?
>
> Yes it does.
>
> >> expand the "CDROM" category.
> > Does the Emprex drive (or a generic listing for the drive) show up there,
> without
> > any "splats"?
>
> It shows:-
> cd rom - DVD RW-IDE 1008
> - E-IDE DVD-ROM DVD-ROM DVD-8212
OK....you said you have a CD-ROM drive and CD-RW drive. This shows a DVD-ROM and a
DVD-RW. It doesn't make a whole lot of difference for this discussion, but I really
need you to stress accuracy.
> (for info only)
> disk drives - GENERIC IDE DISC TYPE 47
> - GENERIC NEC FLOPPY DISC
>
> THERE ARE NO "SPLATS"????
By "splats" I mean does anything have a red X or an exclamation mark over it in
Device Manager, indicating there is a problem?
> We only have a hard drive (as from new), cd rom (as from new), emprex
> rewriter, (replacement) , floppy drive (as from new).
>
> I will now deal with the non hardware questions and let you know.
>
> By the way, I have read most of "Can't burn CD-RWs after deleted hard drive
> & installed extra CD" on this newsgroup by "moregive" and have taken note of
> the main points / issues.
That was quite a long thread, and the issue turned out to be an incompatibility
between the two optical drives on the same machine.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
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> > "Moonraker" <moonraker@home.com> wrote in message
> > news:eR2tV3MsFHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > We had the liteon drive with "nero and incd",- changed writer to
> emprex,- we
> > > also have a cd rom,- not sure which is slave or master but they are
> wired up
> > > the only way that the 'puter will see them.
> >
> > So, I understand that to mean you removed the Liteon drive and installed
> the Emprex
> > drive in its place, on the same connector of the same cable....is that
> correct?
> >
> > > I do not have ANY other writing or burning software installed nor have
> ever.
> > > When I installed the new replacement drive I loaded in the new cd which
> I
> > > guess had the software and drivers.
> >
> > Well, that may be part of the problem right there. You say "you guess" it
> installed
> > software and drivers. If it installed software, you need to determine
> what it
> > was....Nero, Easy CD Creator, something else? If "drivers" were
> installed, it's
> > possible that you loaded unneeded DOS drivers for the drive to be used in
> DOS mode
> > as a CD-ROM drive.
> >
> > > As said, we had nero and incd on the 'puter, but I cannot remember if I
> > > reloaded either with the new drive.
> >
> > Get the disc you loaded with the Emprex drive, and find out what is on it.
> >
> > > Needless to say we could not see data from our discs (mostly jpegs from
> our
> > > digi cam) loaded from the liteon (first) drive, nor could we write to
> > > anything.
> >
> > IOW, are you saying that you cannot read *any* discs with the new drive,
> or just
> > discs that were previously written with the old drive?
> >
> > > I posted on here back in Jan/Feb. and was told about the nero range of
> > > cleantools, so used them and tried reinstalling.
> > > Still would not work, i.e we cannot see anything on any of the discs
> that we
> > > have saved stuff on, be it piccy's or "backup" documents from "Stephen's
> > > documents or from "Beryl's documents", just two folders on the "c" in
> > > explorer which I added to keep our stuff separate.
> > > Nor can we save to any new discs still.
> >
> > Can you read any other discs with the drive? Does Device manager look OK?
> > Press WinKey+Pause/Break to open the System control panel. Click the
> Performance
> > tab....does it say "configured for optimal performance"?
> > Click the Device Manager tab, click the + sign to expand the "CDROM"
> category.
> > Does the Emprex drive (or a generic listing for the drive) show up there,
> without
> > any "splats"?
> > --
> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> >
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
> > > news:ewYacOBsFHA.304@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > > As jkb hints, it is a recipe for disaster to install more than one
> CD/DVD
> > > > burning application on a system.
> > > >
> > > > What kinds of files and folder names include "INCD"? Your question is
> > > > meaningless without that knowledge. When you search on "INCD", you can
> get
> > > > any number of files containing that string without them having
> anything to
> > > > do with Nero software.
> > > >
> > > > Or, they may have been seen as personal folders where personal files
> are
> > > > normally stored--MP3s, WMVs, etc. Those are the kinds of files that
> > > > uninstallers are configured not to touch.
> > > >
> > > > Or your system may have been so messed up by some past programming
> that
> > > the
> > > > uninstaller(s) couldn't find whatever they were looking for. Or the
> > > > uninstaller simply isn't robust enough and able to handle such
> > > contingencies
> > > > when it should be able to.
> > > >
> > > > In short, though, you provide insufficient data from which to make
> that
> > > kind
> > > > of determination.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Gary S. Terhune
> > > > MS-MVP Shell/User
> > > >
> > > > "Moonraker" <moonraker@home.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:%23QtN0oAsFHA.3096@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> > > > > Nero and incd is not working.
> > > > >
> > > > > I used to have it working ok, then had to replace the rewriter
> drive.
> > > (six
> > > > > months ago)
> > > > >
> > > > > Installed the new software from the disc supplied with the emprex
> drive.
> > > > >
> > > > > The new drive works ok when game cd's are in the drive.
> > > > >
> > > > > Have used nearly all the "cleantools" from the Nero web site, and
> > > > > reinstalled Nero and incd
> > > > >
> > > > > Before we go to far could I ask a question,- after using the
> cleantool
> > > to
> > > > > remove old installations of INCD for instance, why is it that when I
> do
> > > a
> > > > > search for files and folders named "INCD" I get a list dating back
> > > several
> > > > > years.
> > > > >
> > > > > Many thanks Steve
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