Netflix is making the internet unusalbe.

[Peoplezone]

My family uses netflix and its killing the internet. It makes me lag unbarably while playing any online game (usually League of Legends). We recently upgraded our router to this, http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX48122 (with QOS). It has reduced some lag, but our connection still sucks (~400ms) with netflix up. We have a 7MB/s plan with 786KPS up (fastest DSL network available to our town). the quality of the neflix stream has been set on low quality aswell. My friend has the same ISP and internet plan as us and uses a worse router and does not lag at all when people use netflix in his house while recieving lower base ping than i do. (I am using a ethernet cable, not wifi).

If there are any solutions please let me know. Thanks

 

[damric]

Netflix automatically consumes as much bandwidth as is available, so manually slow it down.

https://help.netflix.com/en/node/87

http://lifehacker.com/manually-adjust-netflix-streaming-options-with-hidden-s-950615894

 

[theunliked]

It is because your friend is probably closer to the exchange than you. What ping do you get when no one else is on the internet.

 

[Peoplezone]

It is because your friend is probably closer to the exchange than you. What ping do you get when no one else is on the internet.

http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4111791745 are my results although he recieves around 48. but to the leage servers itself around 115 and he recieves ~85-95.

 

[theunliked]

It is because your friend is probably closer to the exchange than you. What ping do you get when no one else is on the internet.

http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4111791745 are my results although he recieves around 48. but to the leage servers itself around 115 and he recieves ~85-95.

Thats probably the reason. Theres nothing you can do about it...unless you move house. Sorry to say.

 

[Peoplezone]

Netflix automatically consumes as much bandwidth as is available, so manually slow it down.

https://help.netflix.com/en/node/87

http://lifehacker.com/manually-adjust-netflix-streaming-options-with-hidden-s-950615894

is their anyway to limite netflix with QOS? there are direct QOS options for games but no dedicated QOS options for Netlix.

 

[damric]

Just tell the Netflix user to cap his settings. It works in my house. I also have a custom kill mode which I enable in my router when my wife is raiding in her MMORPGs.

 

[Hard Line]

Gaming doesn't use very much data so set that computer in a class higher than the class that has netflix on it.

Then set the gaming class at 100% for both upload and download.

Then set the netflix class at 80% of your download speed. If you are lazy, you can also set uploads at 80%, but at that rate, if more than one person is streaming, then upload requests will saturate download links and your download gaming packets will get lost with the netflix traffic. That will increase latency, but will be nicer to the people on your network to stream the most bandwidth at any given time with some increase to your latency.

I recommend 150kbps upload per 6mbps of traffic. So if you have a 9mbps download speed, then I recommend max 225kbps upload for netflix requests. This will provide more than enough overhead for your gaming traffic uploads, but download traffic for both gaming and netflix may get congested at the router or the ISP. If you find your latency is still high, then lower the upload limit for netflix traffic.

You can't really control the traffic you get on downstream, it's mostly via upstream.


Here are the modified classes and priorities you need to know.

TCP
Dst Port: 80,443,8080
Transferred: 0 - 512KB High Web Surfing 8 Max Speed 10000/425

TCP
Dst Port: 80,443,8080
Transferred: 8192KB+ Med Netflix 10 Max Speed 6000/150
TCP
Dst Port: 80,443,8080
Transferred: 512 - 8192KB Low Web Surfing 11 Max Speed 10000/400

This will catch Netflix traffic and put it in a class just below normal websurfing so that all Websurfing will feel mostly zippy while still allowing Netflix to have sufficent bandwidth to stream, but not overcome your connection.

Now create a new rule with your computer's IP address.

SRC IP: 192.168.1.51
Port:111,222,333,444 Highest Gaming 7 Max Speed 10000/425

Now your computer gaming ports and data will processed the quickest and sent in and out the fastest. Since gaming packets are small, no one will notice the difference, but you will notice the reduced latency.

Use this on a good quality router.

 

[bill001g]

The router you have is one the few that has the ability to limit download traffic. Very technically you can't since the ISP is in control but for netflix you can trick it into slowing down. This does not work for things like utorrent though.

What you can do is assign you machine to a group---say "game" and then assign everyone else to a different group. You might be able to use the "default" group but it depends on the actual firmware version.

In any case what you do is put a download limit on the group you have placed everyone else in. You would set it to say 5m. This should in theory leave 2m unused for your game.

Unfortunately there is no way you can just tell the router to reserve 2m for a user.....still this is not really QoS it is part of the error recovery method and does not work for all applications. It does work well though for netflix and youtube and most web surfing.

 

[Peoplezone]

Gaming doesn't use very much data so set that computer in a class higher than the class that has netflix on it.

Then set the gaming class at 100% for both upload and download.

Then set the netflix class at 80% of your download speed. If you are lazy, you can also set uploads at 80%, but at that rate, if more than one person is streaming, then upload requests will saturate download links and your download gaming packets will get lost with the netflix traffic. That will increase latency, but will be nicer to the people on your network to stream the most bandwidth at any given time with some increase to your latency.

I recommend 150kbps upload per 6mbps of traffic. So if you have a 9mbps download speed, then I recommend max 225kbps upload for netflix requests. This will provide more than enough overhead for your gaming traffic uploads, but download traffic for both gaming and netflix may get congested at the router or the ISP. If you find your latency is still high, then lower the upload limit for netflix traffic.

You can't really control the traffic you get on downstream, it's mostly via upstream.


Here are the modified classes and priorities you need to know.

TCP
Dst Port: 80,443,8080
Transferred: 0 - 512KB High Web Surfing 8 Max Speed 10000/425

TCP
Dst Port: 80,443,8080
Transferred: 8192KB+ Med Netflix 10 Max Speed 6000/150
TCP
Dst Port: 80,443,8080
Transferred: 512 - 8192KB Low Web Surfing 11 Max Speed 10000/400

This will catch Netflix traffic and put it in a class just below normal websurfing so that all Websurfing will feel mostly zippy while still allowing Netflix to have sufficent bandwidth to stream, but not overcome your connection.

Now create a new rule with your computer's IP address.

SRC IP: 192.168.1.51
Port:111,222,333,444 Highest Gaming 7 Max Speed 10000/425

Now your computer gaming ports and data will processed the quickest and sent in and out the fastest. Since gaming packets are small, no one will notice the difference, but you will notice the reduced latency.

Use this on a good quality router.

OK. Not sure how to make a new rule though, I have done the other steps.